Bewick:
It really is a total waste of breath debating with you Spardo however one final thing I can say about the Vikings is that they never asked anyone for anything, quite the opposite ! But what they did do over a number of years is assimilate with the sparsely populated areas of the UK they settled in AND they converted to Christianity which is something Moslems have never done going back over the past 60 odd years with the influx we had from the Sub Continent. And it is patently obvious that it is still the case to-day but can I also ask you why do Moslems make Christian countries their preferred destination and not other Moslem countries like Saudi and the Gulf states ? Bewick.
Oh my goodness, did you think you were debating? Bless. It is true though that the Vikings never asked for anything, they took it with blood and fire, no wonder you admire them so much. Why aren’t you in Dover, repelling rubber boats on the beaches?
And you being such a Christian man as well, who would have believed it with your foul mouthed rants. And the most recent one, as Franglais pointed out, on a Sunday too. Hope the vicar is not a member of this forum. And what does it matter if immigrants choose to stick with their own superstitions rather than convert to yours? Aren’t all religions the same when it comes down to it?
Why do they come to Western Europe? You can see why I can’t take you seriously, can’t you? Because life is better here, in spite of people like you.
Spardo:
But then, facts are not your strong point, are they? You prefer knobheads with buses for your info. Best of luck with that then when you get your wish.
> Buzzer: > PS. What have you done with your mate whispering smith or has he tripped and fell down a tin mine in darkest Cornwall.
Just observing the debate Buzzer
I’ve long since come to the conclusion that the majority of The EU Quitters still base their views on what appears to me as emotional lines rather than any fact based conclusion.
And with the increasing nastiness of some of the extreme right Politicians arguing for Quitting, I have been keeping out of the debate (If you can call it that)
However, if you want to know my current opinion it is thus: The threat of Brexit and those most vocal calling for it is the greatest threat Great Britain has faced since 1939.
And just as a reminder the Great in Great Britain means large from the French ‘Grande Bretagne’ to differentiate from the other place Britons live: Brittany - Bretagne
(Big Britain / Small Britain)
Pretender Vikings: ■■■■■ Hardrada & William the ■■■■■■■■ None of them with a truly legitimate claim, but that was about par for the end of the Dark Ages / beginning of the Middle Ages. Now I wonder how many will be edited out by the auto censor?
I thought so: Canute and the illegitimate son of Herleve Fulbert and Robert 1st, descended from Rollo.
Another product of the brilliant EU is Spains election results. The far right have got a representitive in their parliment probably and hopefully a protest vote but when are these politicians going to listen mass immigration doesn’t work.
As for why do muslems want to come to the west is quite simple , they cant get away with what they get away with here in their own country.Strange how we haven’t seen muslem leaders coming out and condeming the Sri Lanka mass murders like the non muslems did in New Zealand and around the world, with the NZ prime minister even wearing muslem clothing to get her point across
cav551:
Pretender Vikings: [zb], Hardrada & William the [zb]. None of them with a truly legitimate claim, but that was about par for the end of the Dark Ages / beginning of the Middle Ages. Now I wonder how many will be edited out by the auto censor?
Are you trying to make a point here? And if so, is it relevant?
Bewick:
It really is a total waste of breath debating with you Spardo however one final thing I can say about the Vikings is that they never asked anyone for anything, quite the opposite ! But what they did do over a number of years is assimilate with the sparsely populated areas of the UK they settled in AND they converted to Christianity which is something Moslems have never done going back over the past 60 odd years with the influx we had from the Sub Continent. And it is patently obvious that it is still the case to-day but can I also ask you why do Moslems make Christian countries their preferred destination and not other Moslem countries like Saudi and the Gulf states ? Bewick.
Oh my goodness, did you think you were debating? Bless. It is true though that the Vikings never asked for anything, they took it with blood and fire, no wonder you admire them so much. Why aren’t you in Dover, repelling rubber boats on the beaches?
And you being such a Christian man as well, who would have believed it with your foul mouthed rants. And the most recent one, as Franglais pointed out, on a Sunday too. Hope the vicar is not a member of this forum. And what does it matter if immigrants choose to stick with their own superstitions rather than convert to yours? Aren’t all religions the same when it comes down to it?
Why do they come to Western Europe? You can see why I can’t take you seriously, can’t you? Because life is better here, in spite of people like you.
Shot yourself in the foot good and proper mate with your last line ! They turn their country of origin into a ■■■■ hole then turn up on our doorstep and start the process all over again ! It’s a case of reducing the standard of living wherever they turn up to the same as the ■■■■ hole they have come from. Bewick.
dexxy57:
We used to have a manufacturing industry. It wasn’t exactly surrendered though, it was ruthlessly crushed in the '80’s. Remember? What’s her name . . . oh, it’s on the tip of my tongue . . . what was her name?
Absolutely.Ruthlessly crushed by deliberate sabotage and if that didn’t work just starved it of investment.All as part of our surrender to the EU 4th Reich and all to help her European masters and the bankers here who’d betted on Germany not us.Then blamed the workforce for the damage that she and Callaghan and Heath had done.You know the same workforce,in many cases in their 50’s,that had helped to defeat your European mates the last time they tried to take over Europe with a greater German led Reich.
What’s her name.Assuming we’re talking about the same rotten to the core evil mad pro EU cow who sold out the country to the Germans and their 4th Reich.Together with the help of the rest of her stinking Party like Heath and all those who followed them from Major to May.I’m sure it was her speaking here on the same side as you.Unless I’ve got it wrong and you’re actually talking about someone else and you’re actually a Leave voter on the same side as people like Shore,Heffer and Benn.
Just a bit of factual information about the status of a couple of immigrant drivers that I have employed in the recent weeks. Whichever side of the argument you are on, make of it what you will.
Both drivers are of Middle Eastern ethnicity. Both have official UK residence permits. One has refugee status, which will be reviewed after 5 years in the UK. The other driver is here because his wife is a doctor working in a Manchester hospital. His residence permit states “No public funds”, which means he is not entitled to any benefits such as unemployment. He is entitled to NHS treatment, which I hope no one on here would begrudge him, especially as he is now paying NI and income tax. His residence permit is for a period of two years. Both men are working for a living, so I personally have no problem with them.
Bewick:
Shot yourself in the foot good and proper mate with your last line ! They turn their country of origin into a [zb] hole then turn up on our doorstep and start the process all over again ! It’s a case of reducing the standard of living wherever they turn up to the same as the [zb] hole they have come from. Bewick.
It looks like we’re dealing with some full on anti nation state,no borders,let em all in,Corbynite Momentum type nutters here Bewick.Who,just like Callaghan,at the end of the day are on the same side of history as Thatcher and Heath to get what they want in the form of Merkel’s stasi run 4th Reich and Kalergi type plan immigration policy to help them do it.They couldn’t make it up.
gingerfold:
Just a bit of factual information about the status of a couple of immigrant drivers that I have employed in the recent weeks. Whichever side of the argument you are on, make of it what you will.
Both drivers are of Middle Eastern ethnicity. Both have official UK residence permits. One has refugee status, which will be reviewed after 5 years in the UK. The other driver is here because his wife is a doctor working in a Manchester hospital. His residence permit states “No public funds”, which means he is not entitled to any benefits such as unemployment. He is entitled to NHS treatment, which I hope no one on here would begrudge him, especially as he is now paying NI and income tax. His residence permit is for a period of two years. Both men are working for a living, so I personally have no problem with them.
And of course the jobs will stay advertised so that the indigenous workforce can take them if required which was the condition put on me for having the nerve to want to work in Canada at the time.Bearing in mind that we’d obviously expect there to be no drivers on the register at your local Jobcentre seeking work.As for refugee status Egypt and Morocco are still considered safe enough for holiday makers from here to go to and Dubai isn’t exactly a dangerous threat to life to be in.
As for doctors from the Middle East working here that’s like Africa exporting food while Africans starve according to the propaganda concerning Syrian health care provision.Although I’d guess no such issues in the case of Saudi provision.Leaving the question why do we need Middle Eastern etc doctors and nurses to work here because our own doctors and nurses are fleeing the NHS to work in Australia and Canada.
gingerfold:
Just a bit of factual information about the status of a couple of immigrant drivers that I have employed in the recent weeks. Whichever side of the argument you are on, make of it what you will.
Both drivers are of Middle Eastern ethnicity. Both have official UK residence permits. One has refugee status, which will be reviewed after 5 years in the UK. The other driver is here because his wife is a doctor working in a Manchester hospital. His residence permit states “No public funds”, which means he is not entitled to any benefits such as unemployment. He is entitled to NHS treatment, which I hope no one on here would begrudge him, especially as he is now paying NI and income tax. His residence permit is for a period of two years. Both men are working for a living, so I personally have no problem with them.
Buzzer:
Oh yes I am, Mary Woodhouse probably knew more about dogs than you ever will and that’s if you live to be 110, its a bit like Myself, Ramone, Bewick, and CAV we are here living every day with these benefit claiming varmant’s all around us so we actually do know what the score is in relation to them, unlike you residing in France you do not, in fact you have not a clue as is obvious by your constant babbling just trying to belittle and twist every post some one with a different agenda to you puts on here, Buzzer.
You deliver dogs ? Now i could actually for the first time learn something from you here Spardo. How do you load dogs obviously double stacking them would be a non starter , but you could gun shot and roll them. The nearest ive got is once picking up 26 pallets of dog biscuits from Barking … Down Shep
There you go again, belittling yourself like Ramone, as I said to him, I don’t need to you are doing a sterling job yourselves. Ranting on about mythical figures. Now, I wonder, do you mean Barbara Woodhouse or do you mean Mary Whitehouse? On balance probably the former, but then again, the latter was a tad to the right of Ghengis Khan so maybe the cap fits there after all.
Whatever, I am not a dog trainer nor am I a dog walker, apart from my own, I am a transporter like most people on this forum. We all have different cargos and it is no secret what mine are.
And how do you know what the situation is in the country in which I reside regarding asylum seekers? You know, the country that takes more of them than where you live. Not many, if any, where I live it is true, but I do travel around a bit including to your neck of the woods, and I doubt you suffer too much from them in deepest leafy Hampshire.
But as I said I do live in a country which takes more of them than the one you live in. But then, facts are not your strong point, are they? You prefer knobheads with buses for your info. Best of luck with that then when you get your wish.
You deliver dogs ? Now i could actually for the first time learn something from you here Spardo. How do you load dogs obviously double stacking them would be a non starter , but you could gun shot and roll them. The nearest ive got is once picking up 26 pallets of dog biscuits from Barking … Down Shep
dexxy57:
We used to have a manufacturing industry. It wasn’t exactly surrendered though, it was ruthlessly crushed in the '80’s. Remember? What’s her name . . . oh, it’s on the tip of my tongue . . . what was her name?
Absolutely.Ruthlessly crushed by deliberate sabotage and if that didn’t work just starved it of investment.All as part of our surrender to the EU 4th Reich and all to help her European masters and the bankers here who’d betted on Germany not us.Then blamed the workforce for the damage that she and Callaghan and Heath had done.You know the same workforce,in many cases in their 50’s,that had helped to defeat your European mates the last time they tried to take over Europe with a greater German led Reich.
What’s her name.Assuming we’re talking about the same rotten to the core evil mad pro EU cow who sold out the country to the Germans and their 4th Reich.Together with the help of the rest of her stinking Party like Heath and all those who followed them from Major to May.I’m sure it was her speaking here on the same side as you.Unless I’ve got it wrong and you’re actually talking about someone else and you’re actually a Leave voter on the same side as people like Shore,Heffer and Benn.
gingerfold:
Just a bit of factual information about the status of a couple of immigrant drivers that I have employed in the recent weeks. Whichever side of the argument you are on, make of it what you will.
Both drivers are of Middle Eastern ethnicity. Both have official UK residence permits. One has refugee status, which will be reviewed after 5 years in the UK. The other driver is here because his wife is a doctor working in a Manchester hospital. His residence permit states “No public funds”, which means he is not entitled to any benefits such as unemployment. He is entitled to NHS treatment, which I hope no one on here would begrudge him, especially as he is now paying NI and income tax. His residence permit is for a period of two years. Both men are working for a living, so I personally have no problem with them.
And of course the jobs will stay advertised so that the indigenous workforce can take them if required which was the condition put on me for having the nerve to want to work in Canada at the time.Bearing in mind that we’d obviously expect there to be no drivers on the register at your local Jobcentre seeking work.As for refugee status Egypt and Morocco are still considered safe enough for holiday makers from here to go to and Dubai isn’t exactly a dangerous threat to life to be in.
As for doctors from the Middle East working here that’s like Africa exporting food while Africans starve according to the propaganda concerning Syrian health care provision.Although I’d guess no such issues in the case of Saudi provision.Leaving the question why do we need Middle Eastern etc doctors and nurses to work here because our own doctors and nurses are fleeing the NHS to work in Australia and Canada.
Foreign doctors could save your life CF when you eventually have a stroke in front of your keyboard . . . then again, aye, who needs them?
ramone:
You deliver dogs ? Now i could actually for the first time learn something from you here Spardo. How do you load dogs obviously double stacking them would be a non starter , but you could gun shot and roll them. The nearest ive got is once picking up 26 pallets of dog biscuits from Barking … Down Shep
You ever thought of a career as a stand-up? No, didn’t think so.
As I have previously said Faridge & The Brexiteers are the greatest threat Britain has faced since 1939.
The parallels with Adolf are frightening
A good link, Whispering, I have long thought that Guy Verhofstadt is the best man for the senior job in the EU. He talks a lot of sense and especially about NF.
gingerfold:
Just a bit of factual information about the status of a couple of immigrant drivers that I have employed in the recent weeks. Whichever side of the argument you are on, make of it what you will.
Both drivers are of Middle Eastern ethnicity. Both have official UK residence permits. One has refugee status, which will be reviewed after 5 years in the UK. The other driver is here because his wife is a doctor working in a Manchester hospital. His residence permit states “No public funds”, which means he is not entitled to any benefits such as unemployment. He is entitled to NHS treatment, which I hope no one on here would begrudge him, especially as he is now paying NI and income tax. His residence permit is for a period of two years. Both men are working for a living, so I personally have no problem with them.
And well said Gingerfold, just a little of the truth that certain people would prefer to be hidden.
According to the UNHCR site 85% of all refugees stay in countries neighbouring there own. They don’t all rush to the west. We’ve seen the conditions for some of them, living in tents in freezing night conditions. Given a bit more help with conditions there, they’d have less need to move further away from there old homes.
If our NHS needs to recruit staff from abroad who is to blame? Isnt it mismanaged by own Governments? Do other EU countries suffer the same problems?
