dexxy57:
If everyone who enters the UK is given 300 Euros a week just for being here then that’s shocking. Just provide the evidence and I’ll agree with you.
If you include the provision of housing free of charge for ‘asylum seekers’ it’s probably actually more than 300 Euros per week but you already knew that.
Free housing, but that may be minimal and sharing. Only if location not refused.
Max £37.39 per person per week (less if refused asylum)
Max £5 per child under 1 per week
£300 one off for pregnant or new mothers between -8 weeks to + 6 weeks
Free health care and school meals may bump it up a bit for kids.
ramone:
So you draw money from your British pension and spend it in France well then you are backing Britain to the hilt there then.Where does your money you spend go , oops another silly question.
Certainly is a silly question, you are full of them aren’t you?
I draw my British pension from Britain and spend it where I live to buy food where I live. I pay local taxes because I recieve local services, where I live. Is this too difficult for you to understand? Or would you prefer I did a 1,600 km return drive to Calais (buying French diesel) and pay for 2 train rides (to Eurotunnel, a French company) and buy my groceries in Dover?
But, when I buy something online, for the car for instance, I buy it from Amazon UK. Oops, smacked hand. Despite the name they are an Irish/American company with a warehouse in Luxembourg and half the stuff probably comes from China. Just like half the stuff you buy in Britain. So you really are backing Britain too then. I bet you even have one of those Union Flag carrier bags that were very popular way back in the 60s.
These questions of yours are not silly at all, are they? They are just plain stupid.
Any more in this famous series?
dexxy57:
You seem a bit angry today. Take a few hours off and settle down in front of the Gospel Channel. Just try and chill a little then come back when you’ve calmed down. You’ve called me a Marxist/Commie/Bolshevik/Stalinist/Federalist/Lib-Con and Nationalist. That’s just the ones I can remember. That’s quite a CV I’ve got there.
At least you’re not working for the 4th Reich anymore eh? Look on the bright side.
dexxy57:
To be fair everyone’s main source of news on here seems to be Facebook.
That’s obviously where I’m going wrong, wouldn’t touch Faceache with a barge pole.
ramone:
So you draw money from your British pension and spend it in France well then you are backing Britain to the hilt there then.Where does your money you spend go , oops another silly question.
Certainly is a silly question, you are full of them aren’t you?
I draw my British pension from Britain and spend it where I live to buy food where I live. I pay local taxes because I recieve local services, where I live. Is this too difficult for you to understand? Or would you prefer I did a 1,600 km return drive to Calais (buying French diesel) and pay for 2 train rides (to Eurotunnel, a French company) and buy my groceries in Dover?
But, when I buy something online, for the car for instance, I buy it from Amazon UK. Oops, smacked hand. Despite the name they are an Irish/American company with a warehouse in Luxembourg and half the stuff probably comes from China. Just like half the stuff you buy in Britain. So you really are backing Britain too then. I bet you even have one of those Union Flag carrier bags that were very popular way back in the 60s.
These questions of yours are not silly at all, are they? They are just plain stupid.
Any more in this famous series?
dexxy57:
You seem a bit angry today. Take a few hours off and settle down in front of the Gospel Channel. Just try and chill a little then come back when you’ve calmed down. You’ve called me a Marxist/Commie/Bolshevik/Stalinist/Federalist/Lib-Con and Nationalist. That’s just the ones I can remember. That’s quite a CV I’ve got there.
At least you’re not working for the 4th Reich anymore eh? Look on the bright side.
Is it Spardo or Tardo ? … you draw an english pension and pay French taxes and buy on the internet from only Amazon who are Irish/American … say no more
dexxy57:
If everyone who enters the UK is given 300 Euros a week just for being here then that’s shocking. Just provide the evidence and I’ll agree with you.
If you include the provision of housing free of charge for ‘asylum seekers’ it’s probably actually more than 300 Euros per week but you already knew that.
Free housing, but that may be minimal and sharing. Only if location not refused.
Max £37.39 per person per week (less if refused asylum)
Max £5 per child under 1 per week
£300 one off for pregnant or new mothers between -8 weeks to + 6 weeks
Free health care and school meals may bump it up a bit for kids.
Hardly £300/week for everyone. Surely not more fake news Buzzer?
Just think on housing rent here would be at least £150 minimum or B&B which is not cheap either plus when you add the cost of health care which most immigrants would have never had in there lifetime it mounts up, then they go thieving to make up the difference so not far off the figure I mentioned is it, plus we get the odd ■■■■ here and there so all bodes well for the tax payers in blighty eh. Ask Angela Merkel what effect its had in Germany bet she regrets saying come on in now. and to boot they have never contributed a bean and are not likely to either, we got enough of our own like them we don’t need any more.
dexxy57:
If everyone who enters the UK is given 300 Euros a week just for being here then that’s shocking. Just provide the evidence and I’ll agree with you.
If you include the provision of housing free of charge for ‘asylum seekers’ it’s probably actually more than 300 Euros per week but you already knew that.
Free housing, but that may be minimal and sharing. Only if location not refused.
Max £37.39 per person per week (less if refused asylum)
Max £5 per child under 1 per week
£300 one off for pregnant or new mothers between -8 weeks to + 6 weeks
Free health care and school meals may bump it up a bit for kids.
Hardly £300/week for everyone. Surely not more fake news Buzzer?
Just think on housing rent here would be at least £150 minimum or B&B which is not cheap either plus when you add the cost of health care which most immigrants would have never had in there lifetime it mounts up, then they go thieving to make up the difference so not far off the figure I mentioned is it, plus we get the odd ■■■■ here and there so all bodes well for the tax payers in blighty eh. Ask Angela Merkel what effect its had in Germany bet she regrets saying come on in now. and to boot they have never contributed a bean and are not likely to either, we got enough of our own like them we don’t need any more.
You said each and every one of them gets 300 euros a week to help them out. Either you made that figure up or you didn’t. So where’s the evidence? Show it to me and I’ll agree with you.
ramone:
Is it Spardo or Tardo ? … you draw an english pension and pay French taxes and buy on the internet from only Amazon who are Irish/American … say no more
Say no more? Might be as well, if you can’t think up comments more sensible and understandable than those.
ramone:
Is it Spardo or Tardo ? … you draw an english pension and pay French taxes and buy on the internet from only Amazon who are Irish/American … say no more
Say no more? Might be as well, if you can’t think up comments more sensible and understandable than those.
I think you were the one who started with the insults and accusations but there you go
ramone:
A simple series of questions to remainers
1, Why do you want to surrender law making to the EU?
We don’t. (and there’s usually more than one in a series).
So why back remain if you dont want the EU to make our laws.
You are quite astute there are more than one in a series but one at a time for the shortsighted
And what laws exactly have the EU made just for us?
Two laws that spring to mind are the WTD and the DCPC something we implement but i ant see our Eastern European friends embracing
ramone:
Two laws that spring to mind are the WTD and the DCPC something we implement but i ant see our Eastern European friends embracing
Don’t see what problem you have with the WTD, do you really want to work more than 48 hours a week, averaged over 17 weeks? Those days should be long gone. I am no longer governed by such things but I make sure that I don’t exceed it.
And the DCPC. Well I admit the course seems a bit draconian and, I suspect, expensive, but it is only every 5 years and if you were a driver before 2009 the first one you would need to take would only have been in 2014.
In any case, both these laws were made by the EU Parliament, with the full approval of your representatives there, (btw, you didn’t answer my earlier question if you vote in both elections) and both would have been enacted in Britain even if it had not been in the EU.
They both passed me by, as here in France we were already restricted less than that and we already had a different form of DCPC, the latter of which I did do. It was a 3 day course and frankly was a holiday for an experienced driver.
ramone:
Two laws that spring to mind are the WTD and the DCPC something we implement but i ant see our Eastern European friends embracing
Don’t see what problem you have with the WTD, do you really want to work more than 48 hours a week, averaged over 17 weeks? Those days should be long gone. I am no longer governed by such things but I make sure that I don’t exceed it.
And the DCPC. Well I admit the course seems a bit draconian and, I suspect, expensive, but it is only every 5 years and if you were a driver before 2009 the first one you would need to take would only have been in 2014.
In any case, both these laws were made by the EU Parliament, with the full approval of your representatives there, (btw, you didn’t answer my earlier question if you vote in both elections) and both would have been enacted in Britain even if it had not been in the EU.
They both passed me by, as here in France we were already restricted less than that and we already had a different form of DCPC, the latter of which I did do. It was a 3 day course and frankly was a holiday for an experienced driver.
These apply to the EU, not just the UK. Our Eastern European friends aren’t embracing them eh? I’ll take your word for it, some evidence would be nice though.
What laws have the EU specifically imposed on the UK? Actually, does that really matter? It’s kind of irrelevant now. We had our say in the referendum and there was a decisive result. We’re leaving. You and I have no further say or influence on the way we leave. We can roll our eyes as much as we want at how Brexit’s being handled but all we can do is watch and wait.
Theresa says she’s committed to honouring the vote. Good for her, she’s a stubborn incompetent excuse of a PM but at least she’s sticking to her promise.
So sooner, rather than later (might take a few more weeks or months) the UK can start making its own laws and regulations, trade with who it wants and stick two fingers up to Brussels.
Nobody knows what the consequences will be, I don’t think they’ll be good, at least in the short term. But too bad for me, just got to get on with it.
Exciting times.
The problem is we cant leave and make our own laws because her deal ties us in.
The DCPC is an EU Directive along with the WTD both imposed on us whether we like it or not. The retired seem to like it for some reason.
The French were the ones who wanted the WTD and if i remember correctly they wanted 35 hours a week. Are these the same ones who are on the streets ebety weekend complaining
TM is not committed to honouring the vote of 17.4 million who wanted to leave the EU, the other option was remain and no mention of any deals at all this was introduced later and for sure this was never going to work because the majority of MP’s could not give a toss about the electorate and are purely in it for personal gain and are mostly in the remain camp.
To have had a chance of the democratic vote to be carried through we needed a prime minister from the Brexiteer side in charge, some one who could have gone to Brussels and told them what we wanted on a take it or leave it basis, all TM did was go and ask them what they thought she should do and came back and put that forward in Whitehall,
Now TM is in a position of being PM with no authority what so ever just like a car with no petrol which wont go anywhere, she is colluding with inept JC as a last resort to get her crap deal passed and any one with an ounce of savvy would not want that, we would be better off in than have her recipe of a deal.
Just hope the other 27 tell her no to any extension and lets us fly solo once more, Buzzer
PS. no figures for the three amigo’s to digest and rebuke in this post, what will you do now ?
dexxy57:
Theresa says she’s committed to honouring the vote. Good for her, she’s a stubborn incompetent excuse of a PM but at least she’s sticking to her promise.
So sooner, rather than later (might take a few more weeks or months) the UK can start making its own laws and regulations, trade with who it wants and stick two fingers up to Brussels.
Nobody knows what the consequences will be, I don’t think they’ll be good, at least in the short term. But too bad for me, just got to get on with it.
Exciting times.
Based on exactly what evidence.As opposed to a committed remainer deliberately put in the job to carry out the pre planned sabotage of Brexit.Leaving the choice of BRINO or Remain as the end game.BRINO obviously creating the win win of taking out UKIP within the EU parliament while keeping us tied to the EU.Now awaits the predictable sudden acceptance by Corbyn of May’s ‘deal’.If not they’ll just revoke article 50 all as part of this foregone charade which was put into action after Cemeron’s bent referendum went bad for the remainers 3 years ago.
Buzzer:
TM is not committed to honouring the vote of 17.4 million who wanted to leave the EU, the other option was remain and no mention of any deals at all this was introduced later and for sure this was never going to work because the majority of MP’s could not give a toss about the electorate and are purely in it for personal gain and are mostly in the remain camp.
To have had a chance of the democratic vote to be carried through we needed a prime minister from the Brexiteer side in charge, some one who could have gone to Brussels and told them what we wanted on a take it or leave it basis, all TM did was go and ask them what they thought she should do and came back and put that forward in Whitehall,
Now TM is in a position of being PM with no authority what so ever just like a car with no petrol which wont go anywhere, she is colluding with inept JC as a last resort to get her crap deal passed and any one with an ounce of savvy would not want that, we would be better off in than have her recipe of a deal.
Just hope the other 27 tell her no to any extension and lets us fly solo once more, Buzzer
PS. no figures for the three amigo’s to digest and rebuke in this post, what will you do now ?
Ive read today that the House of Lords can reverse the decision by MPs to make a law so we cant leave without a deal. I just hope they see sense but I`m not holding my breath
Yesterday morning saw the Chairman of Ford Europe mouthing off on the news about them possibly having to consider their continued manufacturing within the EU ! What a right “J. Arthur” this geezer is and he his English ! He conveniently overlooks the fact that Ford don’t build any vehicles in the UK now and haven’t done for a while ! Their cars are built on the European mainland and Oh! they moved their Transit plant from S’ampton to Turkey ! But the ■■■■■■ seemed to overlook the fact that the UK is an extremely large outlet for their finished products. OK so they still have a couple of engine plants in the UK but these are just a shadow of Fords former footprint within the UK i.e. Halewood, Dagenham, Langley, Southampton and of course they also owned JLR for a number of years and IIRC Aston Martin ! If I had my way I would just slap a £5K + tariff on all new Fords imported into the UK ! That would concentrate the mind of “Mr. Chairman” and teach him as to which side his bread is buttered on !
And one last thing what an absolute ■■■■■■ that Irish PM is because “Frau Leader Hosen” has paid him a half day visit today ! What a Gob ■■■■■ he really is trying to preach to us in the UK. The UK could choke off his economy in an instant by closing the Ferry Ports and stopping their imports to the UK which I believe account for 75% of their exports ! He should show a bit more respect to the hand that feeds him but the Lilley Livered 'Spineless" MP’s that are supposed to look after our interests are a total waste of space and are just a bunch of Oxygen thieves ! Where is a “Guy Fawkes” type when the Country needs one ! Cheers Bewick.
ramone:
The problem is we cant leave and make our own laws because her deal ties us in.
The DCPC is an EU Directive along with the WTD both imposed on us whether we like it or not. The retired seem to like it for some reason.
The French were the ones who wanted the WTD and if i remember correctly they wanted 35 hours a week. Are these the same ones who are on the streets ebety weekend complaining
Well her deal isn’t done yet, so maybe you’ll get to make your own WTD and DCPC, but I wouldn’t hold your breath because most authorities think they are a good idea. Safety from 'orrible lorries etc.
I think the DCPC is a bit over the top from what I’ve heard of it but the WTD? Nowt wrong with that, and nowt to do with being retired either. I wouldn’t be surprised if the French wanted it but not sure why, they already had the 35 from when I was still driving for a living, and didn’t need to change anything themselves. And no. the Gilly Joans are nothing to do with that. They were originally just fuel tax protestors, before the bully boys who are just in it for the aggro, took over
But, as I said before, laws made by the EU Parliament are made by the 28, it isn’t some great big wicked dictator, i’ts a democratic process. And I know how all you Leavers just love a democratic process.
ramone:
Ive read today that the House of Lords can reverse the decision by MPs to make a law so we cant leave without a deal. I just hope they see sense but I`m not holding my breath
I think the House of Lords is a revising body, or whatever it’s called, they can’t stop anything only send it back to see if it can be changed. If not, tough cheese. Quite right too, unlike the EU Parliament, no-one elects them.
Spardo:
But, as I said before, laws made by the EU Parliament are made by the 28, it isn’t some great big wicked dictator, i’ts a democratic process. And I know how all you Leavers just love a democratic process.
It’s not a democratic process it’s the imposition of a majority foreign vote and mandate which we have no democratic control or accountability over.Let alone unarguable undemocratic nature of the Commissioner Politburo and zb’s like Juncker telling us what to do in our own country.
ramone:
Ive read today that the House of Lords can reverse the decision by MPs to make a law so we cant leave without a deal. I just hope they see sense but I`m not holding my breath
I think the House of Lords is a revising body, or whatever it’s called, they can’t stop anything only send it back to see if it can be changed. If not, tough cheese. Quite right too, unlike the EU Parliament, no-one elects them.
You’re right. the House of Lords is there to revise whats been sent through from the Commons.
Buzzer:
TM is not committed to honouring the vote of 17.4 million who wanted to leave the EU, the other option was remain and no mention of any deals at all this was introduced later and for sure this was never going to work because the majority of MP’s could not give a toss about the electorate and are purely in it for personal gain and are mostly in the remain camp.
To have had a chance of the democratic vote to be carried through we needed a prime minister from the Brexiteer side in charge, some one who could have gone to Brussels and told them what we wanted on a take it or leave it basis, all TM did was go and ask them what they thought she should do and came back and put that forward in Whitehall,
Now TM is in a position of being PM with no authority what so ever just like a car with no petrol which wont go anywhere, she is colluding with inept JC as a last resort to get her crap deal passed and any one with an ounce of savvy would not want that, we would be better off in than have her recipe of a deal.
Just hope the other 27 tell her no to any extension and lets us fly solo once more, Buzzer
PS. no figures for the three amigo’s to digest and rebuke in this post, what will you do now ?
MP’s only in it for themselves? I’ve always thought that to be honest.
Better of staying in than going with her deal? Well, duh, of course that’s the case.
