Eu referendum whats your vote

[dexxy57]

dexxy57:

Buzzer:

dexxy57:

Buzzer:
What really is bugging me is the so called hard line Brexiteer’s like Mogg who are now saying they will change there minds and vote for TM’s BRINO deal FFS, they have absolutely no moral fibre what so ever, they are contradicting every single thing they stood for by doing this and betraying us in the meantime. Every one and his dog knows TM’s deal is not right for us and certainly not what we voted for.
No one ever says why a no deal scenario is not good for this country, alright it may be tough at the beginning but we can cope with that, at least we would not be ruled by those Wayne Kerr’s that are the buggers that are on the EU gravy train ( we have over 90 EU MP’s WTFF ) its just jobs for the boys and all the expenses they incur to boot.
Its time we had personal that actually stood by there true beliefs instead of having a fruitless week of voting on jumped up ideas that will never work. Get a backbone and do what is right and do justice to the 17.4 million who voted to leave.

PS. One more point before signing off I honestly think the BBC are biased towards the remain side and as a publicly funded organisation this is wrong.

If we leave without a deal, all EU rules and regulations will instantly cease to apply to the UK. These rules and regulations currently cover citizens rights, travel, customs and trade. The so called ‘Transition Period’ that was due to last until the end of 2020 will also be out the window.
What could possibly go wrong?

Absolutely nothing my friend it is all scaremonger tactics and while we are on the subject the main reason for Brexit was all these rules and regs placed on us by the EU which we in this country follow to the letter of the law and over there they are mostly ignored and they do as they please.

So no trade deal with the EU, increased border checks and disruption to travel are all scaremongering? Ok, fair enough. That’s reassuring.
Besides, we’ve got solid trade deals with the Faroe Islands and, em, Fiji to tide us over.
Oh and we’ve got our blue passports back (which apparently we could have got back anytime we wanted), but, hey, blue passports eh? What’s not to like about Brexit?

You think the EU are just going to stop trading with the UK in your dreams, where the hell will they sell all the gear that comes here now ? as for boarder checks they should be doing that anyway then we would not have so many illegal immigrants in our country and we can make there life hell just as much when there trucks come in to our shores, works both ways. Don’t think you need worry as with the bent politicians we have on both sides of the house at present they could not get a definitive vote on weather to go to the toilet or not, just sell us down it but they shore as hell don’t want us to leave with no deal do they.
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Who’s saying they’re going to stop trading with us? I said if there’s no deal there will be no trade agreement.

[buzzer]

Why have a trade deal if they are still doing business with us, too much complication but then the EU are full of smoke and mirrors which there is no need for.

[gazzer]

My local prison warders tells me you still get your pension in prison!

How about this then:
Letter to Mrs. May - Genius!!

Dear Mrs. May,

Please find below our suggestion for fixing Brexit.

Instead of giving billions of pounds to Euro crates, that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan.
You can call it the Patriotic Retirement Plan:
There are about 10 million people over 50 in the work force.
Pay them £1 million each severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:

1. They MUST retire.
   Ten million job openings - unemployment fixed

2. They MUST buy a new British car.
   Ten million cars ordered - Car Industry fixed

3. They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage -
   Housing Crisis fixed

4. They MUST send their kids to school/college/university -
   Crime rate fixed

5. They MUST buy £100 WORTH of alcohol/tobacco a week …
   And there’s your money back in duty/tax etc

It can’t get any easier than that!

P.S. If more money is needed, have all members of parliament pay back their falsely claimed expenses and second home allowances

If you think this would work, please forward to everyone you know.
Also…

Let’s put the pensioners in jail and the criminals in a nursing home.

This way the pensioners would have access to showers, hobbies and walks.

They’d receive unlimited free prescriptions, dental and medical treatment, wheel chairs etc and they’d receive money instead of paying it out.

They would have constant video monitoring, so they could be helped instantly, if they fell, or needed assistance.

Bedding would be washed twice a week, and all clothing would be ironed and returned to them.

A guard would check on them every 20 minutes and bring their meals and snacks to their cell.

They would have family visits in a suite built for that purpose.

They would have access to a library, weight room, spiritual counselling, pool and education.

Simple clothing, shoes, slippers, PJ’s and legal aid would be free, on request.

Private, secure rooms for all, with an exercise outdoor yard, with gardens.

Each senior could have a PC a TV radio and daily phone calls.

There would be a board of directors to hear complaints, and the guards would have a code of conduct that would be strictly adhered to.

The criminals would get cold food, be left all alone and unsupervised. Lights off at 8pm, and showers once a week. Live in a tiny room and pay £600.00 per week and have no hope of ever getting out.

Think about this (more points of contention):

COWS
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that during the mad cow epidemic our government could track a single cow, born in Appleby almost three years ago, right to the stall where she slept in the county of ■■■■■■■■

And, they even tracked her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 125,000 illegal immigrants wandering around our country. Maybe we should give each of them a cow.

Also;
Think about this … If you don’t want to forward this for fear of offending someone – YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM! It is time for us grumpy old folk of Britain to speak up!

[dexxy57]

Buzzer:
Why have a trade deal if they are still doing business with us, too much complication but then the EU are full of smoke and mirrors which there is no need for.

It’s to do with tariffs and frictionless borders and other complicated economic ■■■■.
Basically we get better deals trading with the EU because we’re in the EU. When we’re out we’re treated the same as countries outside the EU (if there’s no deal).
So, on WTO terms, which we would default to, there would be increased tariffs on our exports and imports into/out of the EU. Bottom line, British stuff would be more expensive in Europe and European stuff more expensive over here.
If we’re trading under WTO rules, we don’t really have any control on adjusting tariffs. We have to go by their rules.

[ramone]

dexxy57:

Buzzer:
Why have a trade deal if they are still doing business with us, too much complication but then the EU are full of smoke and mirrors which there is no need for.

It’s to do with tariffs and frictionless borders and other complicated economic [zb].
Basically we get better deals trading with the EU because we’re in the EU. When we’re out we’re treated the same as countries outside the EU (if there’s no deal).
So, on WTO terms, which we would default to, there would be increased tariffs on our exports and imports into/out of the EU. Bottom line, British stuff would be more expensive in Europe and European stuff more expensive over here.
If we’re trading under WTO rules, we don’t really have any control on adjusting tariffs. We have to go by their rules.

The only problem is that we have to pay billions to get these deals and we cant trade with anypne else.Also all the rules and regulations they force upon us.Why do people think we cant stand on our own 2 feet.The real reason Brexit wont happen is there’s too many failed and present MPs on or waiting to get on the gravy train just ask the Kinnock family and the slime ball Blair

[buzzer]

dexxy57:

Buzzer:
Why have a trade deal if they are still doing business with us, too much complication but then the EU are full of smoke and mirrors which there is no need for.

It’s to do with tariffs and frictionless borders and other complicated economic [zb].
Basically we get better deals trading with the EU because we’re in the EU. When we’re out we’re treated the same as countries outside the EU (if there’s no deal).
So, on WTO terms, which we would default to, there would be increased tariffs on our exports and imports into/out of the EU. Bottom line, British stuff would be more expensive in Europe and European stuff more expensive over here.
If we’re trading under WTO rules, we don’t really have any control on adjusting tariffs. We have to go by their rules.

Ho, ho, ho when you consider the flow of goods which is roughly three times as much in from the EU as out we would have the better end of the stick don’t you think.

[buzzer]

gazzer:
My local prison warders tells me you still get your pension in prison!

How about this then:
Letter to Mrs. May - Genius!!

Dear Mrs. May,

Please find below our suggestion for fixing Brexit.

Instead of giving billions of pounds to Euro crates, that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan.
You can call it the Patriotic Retirement Plan:
There are about 10 million people over 50 in the work force.
Pay them £1 million each severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:

1. They MUST retire.
   Ten million job openings - unemployment fixed

2. They MUST buy a new British car.
   Ten million cars ordered - Car Industry fixed

3. They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage -
   Housing Crisis fixed

4. They MUST send their kids to school/college/university -
   Crime rate fixed

5. They MUST buy £100 WORTH of alcohol/tobacco a week …
   And there’s your money back in duty/tax etc

It can’t get any easier than that!

P.S. If more money is needed, have all members of parliament pay back their falsely claimed expenses and second home allowances

If you think this would work, please forward to everyone you know.
Also…

Let’s put the pensioners in jail and the criminals in a nursing home.

This way the pensioners would have access to showers, hobbies and walks.

They’d receive unlimited free prescriptions, dental and medical treatment, wheel chairs etc and they’d receive money instead of paying it out.

They would have constant video monitoring, so they could be helped instantly, if they fell, or needed assistance.

Bedding would be washed twice a week, and all clothing would be ironed and returned to them.

A guard would check on them every 20 minutes and bring their meals and snacks to their cell.

They would have family visits in a suite built for that purpose.

They would have access to a library, weight room, spiritual counselling, pool and education.

Simple clothing, shoes, slippers, PJ’s and legal aid would be free, on request.

Private, secure rooms for all, with an exercise outdoor yard, with gardens.

Each senior could have a PC a TV radio and daily phone calls.

There would be a board of directors to hear complaints, and the guards would have a code of conduct that would be strictly adhered to.

The criminals would get cold food, be left all alone and unsupervised. Lights off at 8pm, and showers once a week. Live in a tiny room and pay £600.00 per week and have no hope of ever getting out.

Think about this (more points of contention):

COWS
Is it just me, or does anyone else find it amazing that during the mad cow epidemic our government could track a single cow, born in Appleby almost three years ago, right to the stall where she slept in the county of ■■■■■■■■

And, they even tracked her calves to their stalls. But they are unable to locate 125,000 illegal immigrants wandering around our country. Maybe we should give each of them a cow.

Also;
Think about this … If you don’t want to forward this for fear of offending someone – YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM! It is time for us grumpy old folk of Britain to speak up!

Very good Gazzer, the way things are panning out what I don’t understand is if the intention all along was to prevent us ever leaving with a NO deal why the hell did the government spend all those millions of pounds on in preparations for such a scenario, just a total waste of tax payers money blown away on a lost cause. It has been obvious for some time now that the majority of MP’s disregard the wishes of those who voted to leave and are only concerned for there own financial being.
This will go down in history as the biggest travesty of justice in all time, sad our once great nation has come to this.

[eddie_heaton]

Cracking post that gazzer, yeah, put me down for some of that. I see it this way. It’s beginning to look as though this interminable Brexit crap may now ultimately sow the seeds of civil unrest, or even, ( perish the thought ), revolution in this country, although whichever way it goes , I have to admit that I’m past caring if I’m being honest.

So…the remainers’ strategy has been successful, inasmuch as three years of this ■■■■■■■■ has literally worn me down to a stub.

My advice to all ex wagon drivers and brexiteers on here, ( myself included ) would be this…Remain calm and be sure to stock up on Vaseline, because as sure as eggs is eggs, we’re all going to get it up the khyber one way or another in the end, leavers or remainers. It was a foregone conclusion from day one in my view.

It may be perceived by some that perhaps I’m taking the situation somewhat lightly. My response to this would be that we may as well treat it all as a joke as Brexit appears to have certainly turned out to be the biggest ( albeit the unfunniest ) joke of the 21st century.

And in conclusion, here’s a little bit of advice to anyone who may possibly be reading this and contemplating shoving voting literature through my letter box this coming year… stay the ■■■■ away, or failing that, then be sure to have a jar of Vaseline handy…that’s my advice.

[dexxy57]

Buzzer:

dexxy57:

Buzzer:
Why have a trade deal if they are still doing business with us, too much complication but then the EU are full of smoke and mirrors which there is no need for.

It’s to do with tariffs and frictionless borders and other complicated economic [zb].
Basically we get better deals trading with the EU because we’re in the EU. When we’re out we’re treated the same as countries outside the EU (if there’s no deal).
So, on WTO terms, which we would default to, there would be increased tariffs on our exports and imports into/out of the EU. Bottom line, British stuff would be more expensive in Europe and European stuff more expensive over here.
If we’re trading under WTO rules, we don’t really have any control on adjusting tariffs. We have to go by their rules.

Ho, ho, ho when you consider the flow of goods which is roughly three times as much in from the EU as out we would have the better end of the stick don’t you think.

There’s three times us much coming in as going out,(according to you), so, aye, the goods coming in are going to be more expensive. Is that hard to understand?

[dexxy57]

According to yourself, Buzzer, The UK has three times more imports than exports to the EU.
By any scale you want to measure us by we are a net importer.
So if the preferential tariffs we’ve had over the years are taken away (overnight, if there’s no deal) the result is extra tariffs and duties on our trade with the EU.
Prices will go up here. It might be only short term, might be longer, nobody knows.

[carryfast]

dexxy57:
According to yourself, Buzzer, The UK has three times more imports than exports to the EU.
By any scale you want to measure us by we are a net importer.
So if the preferential tariffs we’ve had over the years are taken away (overnight, if there’s no deal) the result is extra tariffs and duties on our trade with the EU.
Prices will go up here. It might be only short term, might be longer, nobody knows.

Yes because according to remainers we’re too stupid to make stuff for ourselves,which of course won’t be subject to any tariffs and it’s so much better to go on inflicting austerity on the country,to pay for the resulting trade deficit and debt,caused by importing too much stuff from the EU,while they buy zb all from us.

[buzzer]

Went well with the voting on cross party ideas for an alternative to TM’s deal last night, with all there big salaries and expenses they were like a bunch of kids in a sweet shop but just could not make up there mind what to buy.
If TM gets her deal through then the Queen should step in and stop her and these J.Arthers from throwing away our country, we will never be the same again if this travesty happens. The UK has gone to pot and we are the laughing stock of the world let alone the EU, how we can stand by and let this small group of people decide our destiny is beyond me, it should be stopped immediately and let us leave as we voted.
Looking at the list below I would put the 400 MP’s who voted against no deal on the 12th of April against a wall and gun them down.

[bewick]

Well said Buzzer ! What a load of absolute “City bankers” those ■■■■■ are ! Oh! and can I be your Loader and feed the ammo for you I promise I won’t let it jam ? Cheers Dennis.

[dexxy57]

Carryfast:

dexxy57:
According to yourself, Buzzer, The UK has three times more imports than exports to the EU.
By any scale you want to measure us by we are a net importer.
So if the preferential tariffs we’ve had over the years are taken away (overnight, if there’s no deal) the result is extra tariffs and duties on our trade with the EU.
Prices will go up here. It might be only short term, might be longer, nobody knows.

Yes because according to remainers we’re too stupid to make stuff for ourselves,which of course won’t be subject to any tariffs and it’s so much better to go on inflicting austerity on the country,to pay for the resulting trade deficit and debt,caused by importing too much stuff from the EU,while they buy zb all from us.

Genius, pure genius. The solution to debt and deficit was so blindingly obvious. All we have to do is make stuff for ourselves and stop importing. I mean, seriously, what do we actually NEED to import that we can’t provide for ourselves?

[carryfast]

dexxy57:

Carryfast:

dexxy57:
According to yourself, Buzzer, The UK has three times more imports than exports to the EU.
By any scale you want to measure us by we are a net importer.
So if the preferential tariffs we’ve had over the years are taken away (overnight, if there’s no deal) the result is extra tariffs and duties on our trade with the EU.
Prices will go up here. It might be only short term, might be longer, nobody knows.

Yes because according to remainers we’re too stupid to make stuff for ourselves,which of course won’t be subject to any tariffs and it’s so much better to go on inflicting austerity on the country,to pay for the resulting trade deficit and debt,caused by importing too much stuff from the EU,while they buy zb all from us.

Genius, pure genius. The solution to debt and deficit was so blindingly obvious. All we have to do is make stuff for ourselves and stop importing. I mean, seriously, what do we actually NEED to import that we can’t provide for ourselves ?

Feel free to explain what makes up our 50 billion Euro trade deficit with Germany alone.Here’s a clue it ain’t Bratwurst and Beer.

youtube.com/watch?v=1j-Gb8Pk2Pk

cnbc.com/2018/10/09/a-hard-b … laims.html

But it’s so much better to go on with the status quo of paying a fortune which we can’t afford in net contributions for the privilege of having to borrow loads more to pay for the EU net import bill and being ruled by POS scumbags like Juncker ( stinking arrogant worse type of Kraut by surname name and by nature ).If only an allied soldier had killed his ■■■■ collaborating POS father during WW2 to stop him knocking up the ■■■■■ that bore his zb son.I think we can all see where this argument is going as so many times through history before.

[ramone]

dexxy57:

Carryfast:

dexxy57:
According to yourself, Buzzer, The UK has three times more imports than exports to the EU.
By any scale you want to measure us by we are a net importer.
So if the preferential tariffs we’ve had over the years are taken away (overnight, if there’s no deal) the result is extra tariffs and duties on our trade with the EU.
Prices will go up here. It might be only short term, might be longer, nobody knows.

Yes because according to remainers we’re too stupid to make stuff for ourselves,which of course won’t be subject to any tariffs and it’s so much better to go on inflicting austerity on the country,to pay for the resulting trade deficit and debt,caused by importing too much stuff from the EU,while they buy zb all from us.

Genius, pure genius. The solution to debt and deficit was so blindingly obvious. All we have to do is make stuff for ourselves and stop importing. I mean, seriously, what do we actually NEED to import that we can’t provide for ourselves?

Well firstly everything we made before we joined the EEC remember all those British companies that slowly started to disappear replaced with foreign owners then shock they close them down and move production abroad after getting their hands on the customer base .It was only a few weeks ago the scaremongerers were saying we will run out of blood pressure tablets.Didnt we make them some time ago .We need those tablets now more than ever

[bewick]

By what went on in “Halitosis Hall” last night it is abundantly clear that we have a Remainer Parliament with maybe about 150 or so MP’s trying to implement the will of the 17:4 million People that voted LEAVE. The ■■■■■ have worked and weevilled their way to a situation that has basically stifled the result of the Referendum and they are now trying to whip up support for a LOSERS vote. If they manage to achieve their aim of another vote I reckon all those of us that voted leave should just abstain from voting again then start a movement of civil disobedience or close to it ! What’s the point in voting again when the result of the first one has been ignored by “The establishment” so much for Democracy!!. However, if we get to the situation where there might be a General Election called well that exercise should prove interesting and there would also have been an EU election for MEP’s which I sincerely hope would see a swathe of " Nigel’s" voted in which would be a nightmare for those ■■■■■■■■ at the EU ! Cheers Bewick.

[ossied]

Found this on the internet, I thought it most appropriate with all that’s going on at the moment… ( nmp)

[carryfast]

Bewick:
By what went on in “Halitosis Hall” last night it is abundantly clear that we have a Remainer Parliament with maybe about 150 or so MP’s trying to implement the will of the 17:4 million People that voted LEAVE. The [zb] have worked and weevilled their way to a situation that has basically stifled the result of the Referendum and they are now trying to whip up support for a LOSERS vote. If they manage to achieve their aim of another vote I reckon all those of us that voted leave should just abstain from voting again then start a movement of civil disobedience or close to it ! What’s the point in voting again when the result of the first one has been ignored by “The establishment” so much for Democracy!!. However, if we get to the situation where there might be a General Election called well that exercise should prove interesting and there would also have been an EU election for MEP’s which I sincerely hope would see a swathe of " Nigels" voted in which would be a nightmare for those [zb] at the EU ! Cheers Bewick.

Farage is controlled opposition.Which is why he didn’t say anything about the referendum act being drafted as a non binding document on the government.Then walked away with the job left unfinished.Then advising the UKIP vote to trust remainer May to deliver the result.Then last but not least has done more ■■■■■■■■ about Batten’s leadership,who effectively rescued UKIP from the damage that Farage and his stooge Bolton did to it,than attacking May.

As for another referendum the obvious question would be is this one going to be binding on the government unlike the 2016 version and if so why and if not what’s the point.While it’s obvious that every leaver should boycott it anyway on the grounds that no one has the right to vote the country out of existence and into EU Vassalage.It really is time to take the gloves off against this treasonous agenda and we won’t do that by going along with yet more pro EU establishment intentions.As opposed to asking the head of state and the forces which zb side are they on.

[dexxy57]

ramone:

dexxy57:

Carryfast:

dexxy57:
According to yourself, Buzzer, The UK has three times more imports than exports to the EU.
By any scale you want to measure us by we are a net importer.
So if the preferential tariffs we’ve had over the years are taken away (overnight, if there’s no deal) the result is extra tariffs and duties on our trade with the EU.
Prices will go up here. It might be only short term, might be longer, nobody knows.

Yes because according to remainers we’re too stupid to make stuff for ourselves,which of course won’t be subject to any tariffs and it’s so much better to go on inflicting austerity on the country,to pay for the resulting trade deficit and debt,caused by importing too much stuff from the EU,while they buy zb all from us.

Genius, pure genius. The solution to debt and deficit was so blindingly obvious. All we have to do is make stuff for ourselves and stop importing. I mean, seriously, what do we actually NEED to import that we can’t provide for ourselves?

Well firstly everything we made before we joined the EEC remember all those British companies that slowly started to disappear replaced with foreign owners then shock they close them down and move production abroad after getting their hands on the customer base .It was only a few weeks ago the scaremongerers were saying we will run out of blood pressure tablets.Didnt we make them some time ago .We need those tablets now more than ever

Yep, we just have to start making the stuff we used to make. How hard can that be?