Carryfast:
More like the pretence that it isn’t still the same Party which took us into the EU and which is enthusiastically keeping us in it under May’s and Hammond’s leadership while pretending the opposite and the remainers know it.
Ok, I’ve been patient, but enough is enough.
Your rants about the EUSSR and the Fourth Reich were amusing, in a kind of ‘point and laugh’ way.
With all respect, you are a nutcase.
Oh look my reference to remainers May and Hammond sabotaging Brexit,while May pretends to deliver it to wrong foot the Leave side such as Juddian,has obviously touched a nerve.
And with all respect ( no that’s a lie ) you are obviously an indoctrinated quisling EU Federalist LibDemCon supporting fool and a traitor to your country like all the other EU flag waving muppets.
While no doubt Churchill said exactly the same about Michael Collins bearing in mind that branding their Nationalist opposition as nutters is a common MO of dictatorial Federalist despots from Napoleon to Stalin to Tito.
Carryfast:
More like the pretence that it isn’t still the same Party which took us into the EU and which is enthusiastically keeping us in it under May’s and Hammond’s leadership while pretending the opposite and the remainers know it.
Ok, I’ve been patient, but enough is enough.
Your rants about the EUSSR and the Fourth Reich were amusing, in a kind of ‘point and laugh’ way.
With all respect, you are a nutcase.
Oh look my reference to remainers May and Hammond sabotaging Brexit,while May pretends to deliver it to wrong foot the Leave side such as Juddian,has obviously touched a nerve.
And with all respect ( no that’s a lie ) you are obviously an indoctrinated quisling EU Federalist LibDemCon supporting fool and a traitor to your country like all the other EU flag waving muppets.
While no doubt Churchill said exactly the same about Michael Collins bearing in mind that branding their Nationalist opposition as nutters is a common MO of dictatorial Federalist despots from Napoleon to Stalin to Tito.
So I’m an indoctrinated quisling Federalist and you’re a rabid Nationalist nutjob . . . . we should get along like a house on fire.
dexxy57:
So I’m an indoctrinated quisling Federalist and you’re a rabid Nationalist nutjob . . . . we should get along like a house on fire.
Absolutely just as any indoctrinated JNA fanatic v Slovenian militia would have said to each other in 1991 for just one example.History shows that no bs referendum or illegitimate Federalist run ( rigged ) vote will fix this type of difference unfortunately.Smash the EU,burn its stinking flag and everything it obviously stands for.That should clarify it.
So I’m an indoctrinated quisling Federalist and you’re a rabid Nationalist nutjob . . . . we should get along like a house on fire.
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Absolutely just as any indoctrinated JNA fanatic v Slovenian militia would have said to each other in 1991 for just one example.History shows that no bs referendum or illegitimate Federalist run ( rigged ) vote will fix this type of difference unfortunately.Smash the EU,burn its stinking flag and everything it obviously stands for.That should clarify it.
Not that it’s any of your business, but I am actually a Nationalist, longing for the day my home country gains independence. We had our chance 5 years ago, and, basically, we ■■■■ the bed. We’d be free of all this Brexit nonsense if we’d been a bit braver. But that’s life I suppose.
Once again I’ve mad an absolute ■■■■ of replying to a post. I’ve somehow deleted Carryfast’s name. Basically I’m replying to Carryfast. Just can’t get the editing and formatting right.
dexxy57:
Not that it’s any of your business, but I am actually a Nationalist, longing for the day my home country gains independence. We had our chance 5 years ago, and, basically, we [zb] the bed. We’d be free of all this Brexit nonsense if we’d been a bit braver. But that’s life I suppose.
Let’s get this right,like the so called Irish Nationalists,the Scottish definition of ‘Nationalism’ and Sovereignty over its affairs means trading UK rule for EU rule.Remind us what happened the last time a Socialist tried to take power by masquerading as a Nationalist.Here’s a clue it’s impossible to be both a Nationalist and a Socialist because Socialism by definition is ideologically opposed to the idea of the Nation State and the National right to self determination.As we saw with examples like Stalin’s alliance with Hitler in taking out Poland and the Hungarian uprising being stamped out by the Soviet Union and last but not least the actions of the JNA against the secessionist former Yugoslav states.
As for the EU its an even far more dangerous hybrid of and an alliance between a Corporate elite and Socialist run dictatorship taking over Europe and masquerading as a democratic Confederal system to do it.Remainers and EU Federalists be careful what you wish for.
dexxy57:
Once again I’ve mad an absolute [zb] of replying to a post. I’ve somehow deleted Carryfast’s name. Basically I’m replying to Carryfast. Just can’t get the editing and formatting right.
When you hit the QUOTE button in the top RH corner of the post to answer; just start your reply AFTER the final ’
dexxy57:
Once again I’ve mad an absolute [zb] of replying to a post. I’ve somehow deleted Carryfast’s name. Basically I’m replying to Carryfast. Just can’t get the editing and formatting right.
When you hit the QUOTE button in the top RH corner of the post to answer; just start your reply AFTER the final ’
’ and it’ll come right . Robert
Quite correct.
But in order to reply to some posters it takes half-an-hour of scrolling down to reach the bottom of the quote!
dexxy57:
Once again I’ve mad an absolute [zb] of replying to a post. I’ve somehow deleted Carryfast’s name. Basically I’m replying to Carryfast. Just can’t get the editing and formatting right.
When you hit the QUOTE button in the top RH corner of the post to answer; just start your reply AFTER the final ’
dexxy57:
Not that it’s any of your business, but I am actually a Nationalist, longing for the day my home country gains independence. We had our chance 5 years ago, and, basically, we [zb] the bed. We’d be free of all this Brexit nonsense if we’d been a bit braver. But that’s life I suppose.
Let’s get this right,like the so called Irish Nationalists,the Scottish definition of ‘Nationalism’ and Sovereignty over its affairs means trading UK rule for EU rule.Remind us what happened the last time a Socialist tried to take power by masquerading as a Nationalist.Here’s a clue it’s impossible to be both a Nationalist and a Socialist because Socialism by definition is ideologically opposed to the idea of the Nation State and the National right to self determination.As we saw with examples like Stalin’s alliance with Hitler in taking out Poland and the Hungarian uprising being stamped out by the Soviet Union and last but not least the actions of the JNA against the secessionist former Yugoslav states.
As for the EU its an even far more dangerous hybrid of and an alliance between a Corporate elite and Socialist run dictatorship taking over Europe and masquerading as a democratic Confederal system to do it.Remainers and EU Federalists be careful what you wish for.
Carryfast:
As for the EU its an even far more dangerous hybrid of and an alliance between a Corporate elite and Socialist run dictatorship taking over Europe and masquerading as a democratic Confederal system to do it.Remainers and EU Federalists be careful what you wish for.
Carryfast, I mean this sincerely . . . seek help.
You call yourself a Nationalist while supporting a Federalist agenda which by definition is the antithesis of Nationalism.Then true to indoctrinated fanatical Socialist form you resort to the usual MO of anyone who refuses to be assimilated needs re education in the gulag.As I said smash the stinking EUSSR and burn its zb flag.
Harvey that goes for the whole shooting match in Westmonster, how the hell is it right that 650 MP’s can decide the future on Brexit against the will of 17.4 million citizens. As for Rees Mogg what an absolute turncoat he’s turned out to be, there all about as reliable as a bag of snakes.
Will be very interesting to see what happens when we do get to have a general election, maybe it will be good to have Corbin in charge and ■■■■■■■■■■■ the country even more as its going that way by the looks of things. BUZZER who was one of those who voted OUT.
Buzzer:
Harvey that goes for the whole shooting match in Westmonster, how the hell is it right that 650 MP’s can decide the future on Brexit against the will of 17.4 million citizens
Because 1 the referendum and its result was never a binding document on the government and 2 that allowed section 13 of the withdrawal act to be written into it.While Liz obviously couldn’t provide assent to any act which takes us out of the EU,on the grounds of sovereignty,without implicating herself for providing assent to all the acts and treaties which took us into it.No surprise that HM government,including Mogg , is now covering HM in that regard.
While given a proper/decent head of state working in the interests of the country Heath would have been arrested by the forces along with all his pro EEC supporters and Powell and Benn,or preferably Shore,would have been ‘asked’ by HM to take over as Conservative and Labour leaders of HM government respectively in the national interest and on grounds of national emergency.( Country being taken/handed over to a foreign power ).The rest would have been history.
Buzzer:
Harvey that goes for the whole shooting match in Westmonster, how the hell is it right that 650 MP’s can decide the future on Brexit against the will of 17.4 million citizens.
It is right because that is the way the country is supposed to work. You elect your rep, he/she speaks his/her mind. But of course in this one case, it apparently isn’t right. So you will get your treasured Brexit
Buzzer:
Harvey that goes for the whole shooting match in Westmonster, how the hell is it right that 650 MP’s can decide the future on Brexit against the will of 17.4 million citizens.
It is right because that is the way the country is supposed to work. You elect your rep, he/she speaks his/her mind. But of course in this one case, it apparently isn’t right. So you will get your treasured Brexit
The premise that the country can be voted out of existence and into Federal state vassalage whether by parliamentary or referendum vote was never right.While it was obviously your treasured ‘reps’ who then voted by massive margin to settle the issue by referendum.Unfortunately for that Federalist quisling puppet rabble they didn’t/couldn’t rig the vote sufficiently to get the foregone conclusion which they thought they’d get.
‘We will get Brexit’ based on exactly what evidence so far ?.As opposed to we can’t have Brexit because giving Royal Assent to a European Communities withdrawal Act on grounds of sovereignty would obviously implicate having given Royal Assent to the European Communities Act.( Bearing in mind FCO 30/1048 )
I certainly mistrust any potential general election called in the next months in order to implement - or not - Brexit. There clearly isn’t any Party Line for either of the two main parties so we will be back to square one, with MPs deciding that their own personal feelings, or more accurately the lucrative promised future directorships, count more than the electorate’s wishes. The potential is there for a complete breakdown of the party system with a Leave party and a Remain party, but we have already had that one. The same applies to a second referendum. The answer is to lock the buggers in the House of Commons Chamber, no food, no drink and no access to toilets until they come up with a positive answer which reflects the 2016 result**. Let them wallow in their own ■■■■.
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UK courts and law supreme, No continuing financial contributions to EU, No freedom of movement.
That ■■■■ Cameron told us, and spent £9M spelling it out via a pamphlet, that whatever the result of the Referendum that would be it for a generation, no if’s no but’s, Oh! no! but we gave the wrong decision ! so that completely ■■■■■■ the Political establishment up big style ! And TM has repeated 108 times “WE LEAVE THE EU ON THE 29th OF MARCH” no if’s no but’s !! The 29th is enshrined in Law so unless they do rapid back tracking legally which time doesn’t allow apparently how can the Law be ignored ? These ■■■■■ make it up as they go along and I now believe the only way forward will be a General Election but we might then get something we didn’t spec on i.e. that ■■■■ Corbyn and him and O’Donnell would quickly reduce the UK to something similar to Venezuela a country they supposedly admire !! I voted LEAVE and not for any “deals” so can we just get on and walk the ■■■■ away period ! Cheers Bewick.
Bewick:
That [zb] Cameron told us, and spent £9M spelling it out via a pamphlet, that whatever the result of the Referendum that would be it
While Hammond worded the Referendum Act as being non binding.Which ‘could’ have been a double edged sword for anyone who has never really accepted the idea of anyone being able to vote the country out of existence and into a vassal state of the zb EU.As for Cameron just another in a long line of duplicitous zb’s from Heath to Major including that lying witch Thatcher.Bearing in mind if I’ve read it right you voted for all of them.
In which case maybe every cloud has a silver lining in that we can now move the argument onto where it should always have been.In that no one has the right to vote the country out of existence and either the Queen does her job by putting all this right.Or she is the real reason behind all this in being an even bigger traitor than Heath was.
Or we allow the remainers to have their way and try to smash the EU from within.Oh wait May’s BRINO deal takes us out of the EU parliament while keeping us tied to EU rule.
Is this you? It’s how I picture you.
. Robert
