cav551:
I can see the way this thing is going which is probably going to end up very ugly indeed.
May has shown its true colours by at last revealing the intention it had all along: No Brexit. The plan revealed will be to kick Brexit into the long grass and get the actual decision as far into the future as possible. The filthy party will operate a three line whip when it comes to a vote. Before that it will be made very clear to MPs what the result of turning down the deal will mean for their own political and financial future. They will be reminded that business will not be proposing future lucrative consultancies and directorships to those who do not toe the line it wants them to follow. The prospect of a general election will terrify the filthies, because they know they will not get back without even more support from elsewhere. Rather than dissolve into pro and anti europe factions they will rally round the blue flag and all we will see from the leavers is an abstain vote.The opposition parties will go along with this because while huff and puff says general election; reality says don’t do it.
The reaction from Brussels is predictable. Whenever it comes about, and it becomes clear that the leaving process has stopped, because the UK Government wants to remain in the EU, they will strike. Just about all the core fundamentals of Leave will go out of the window and then will come the big one: the UK owes the EU financial reparations for the trouble it has caused and will have to sign up to additional conditions. In order to remain and not just be ejected from the club by a vote of other members, they will want control of our Armed forces and our waters, the UK to join the euro, compensation of several hundred billion euros, and annual contributions to the EU budget exponentially related to other member state’s levels.
Bloody hell mate, are you sure you’re not John Le Carre in disguise? Just expand that plot a bit and you’ll have a fantasy best seller, ditch the day job.
cav551:
I can see the way this thing is going which is probably going to end up very ugly indeed.
May has shown its true colours by at last revealing the intention it had all along: No Brexit. The plan revealed will be to kick Brexit into the long grass and get the actual decision as far into the future as possible. The filthy party will operate a three line whip when it comes to a vote. Before that it will be made very clear to MPs what the result of turning down the deal will mean for their own political and financial future. They will be reminded that business will not be proposing future lucrative consultancies and directorships to those who do not toe the line it wants them to follow. The prospect of a general election will terrify the filthies, because they know they will not get back without even more support from elsewhere. Rather than dissolve into pro and anti europe factions they will rally round the blue flag and all we will see from the leavers is an abstain vote.The opposition parties will go along with this because while huff and puff says general election; reality says don’t do it.
The reaction from Brussels is predictable. Whenever it comes about, and it becomes clear that the leaving process has stopped, because the UK Government wants to remain in the EU, they will strike. Just about all the core fundamentals of Leave will go out of the window and then will come the big one: the UK owes the EU financial reparations for the trouble it has caused and will have to sign up to additional conditions. In order to remain and not just be ejected from the club by a vote of other members, they will want control of our Armed forces and our waters, the UK to join the euro, compensation of several hundred billion euros, and annual contributions to the EU budget exponentially related to other member state’s levels.
All of which can be attributed to that decision by the supposed ‘Head of State’ to grant Royal Assent to the European Communities Act all those years ago.In addition to failing to step in when the level of the plot became clear with the Single European Act,Maastricht and Lisbon.I’d guess that also saying nothing when it’s clear that the EU’s plan is to remove the title of ‘Royal’ from the forces,which was obviously meant literally in terms of their chain of command,shows where the real responsibility for all this sits.
IE it’s time to stop bothering about the no hoper quisling parliament and put the blame where it really belongs with the Head of State who could have stopped all this with just a letter containing a few words sent to the PM at any point from the European Communities Act to Lisbon treaty.
I’d guess that ugly in that case doesn’t get much uglier than either our armed forces past and present both alive and dead realising that they are/were have been serving a corrupt foreign imposition over us.
Or more than 17 million people suddenly waking up to the fact that we are under the jackboot of a foreign enemy state enforced and imposed by our own quisling Head of State and the forces all acting in the same way as the Vichy French regime and forces of WW2.The facts suggesting that it’s the latter of those and in which case the only reason that the EU obviously thinks that it can take control of our armed forces is because the Head of State is all part of the same treasonous plot having said nothing against numerous examples of the EU clearly showing its intent to takeover the role of our Head of State in that regard.No surprise that Blair’s removal of the treason laws was also granted by her in that case.You can bet with the intention that any such laws will now be the responsibility of and decreed and imposed by the EU for ‘treason’ against the EU.Long to Reign Over Us indeed.
cav551:
I can see the way this thing is going which is probably going to end up very ugly indeed.
May has shown its true colours by at last revealing the intention it had all along: No Brexit. The plan revealed will be to kick Brexit into the long grass and get the actual decision as far into the future as possible. The filthy party will operate a three line whip when it comes to a vote. Before that it will be made very clear to MPs what the result of turning down the deal will mean for their own political and financial future. They will be reminded that business will not be proposing future lucrative consultancies and directorships to those who do not toe the line it wants them to follow. The prospect of a general election will terrify the filthies, because they know they will not get back without even more support from elsewhere. Rather than dissolve into pro and anti europe factions they will rally round the blue flag and all we will see from the leavers is an abstain vote.The opposition parties will go along with this because while huff and puff says general election; reality says don’t do it.
The reaction from Brussels is predictable. Whenever it comes about, and it becomes clear that the leaving process has stopped, because the UK Government wants to remain in the EU, they will strike. Just about all the core fundamentals of Leave will go out of the window and then will come the big one: the UK owes the EU financial reparations for the trouble it has caused and will have to sign up to additional conditions. In order to remain and not just be ejected from the club by a vote of other members, they will want control of our Armed forces and our waters, the UK to join the euro, compensation of several hundred billion euros, and annual contributions to the EU budget exponentially related to other member state’s levels.
Bloody hell mate, are you sure you’re not John Le Carre in disguise? Just expand that plot a bit and you’ll have a fantasy best seller, ditch the day job.
The only fantasy here is the delusional ideas of EU Federalists like yourself,trying to sell us the lie that the EU 4th Reich isn’t as big a threat to those living under its jackboot as the Austro Hungarian Empire or 3rd Reich or Yugoslav Federation.
malmic:
There is a deal you may not like it but it’s a deal getting it through parliament is the tricky bit
It’s not a deal.It’s remainers having Hijacked Brexit to deliver Remain + and thinking that more than 17 million voters will be stupid enough to swallow it.As for parliament the pretend opposition to it is all part of the same plot.IE in what way is it supposedly unacceptable to remainers when it keeps us tied to the EU with the win win of destroying UKIP’s MEP presence.
cav551:
I can see the way this thing is going which is probably going to end up very ugly indeed.
The reaction from Brussels is predictable. Whenever it comes about, and it becomes clear that the leaving process has stopped, because the UK Government wants to remain in the EU, they will strike. Just about all the core fundamentals of Leave will go out of the window and then will come the big one: the UK owes the EU financial reparations for the trouble it has caused and will have to sign up to additional conditions. In order to remain and not just be ejected from the club by a vote of other members, they will want control of our Armed forces and our waters, the UK to join the euro, compensation of several hundred billion euros, and annual contributions to the EU budget exponentially related to other member state’s levels.
Bloody hell mate, are you sure you’re not John Le Carre in disguise? Just expand that plot a bit and you’ll have a fantasy best seller, ditch the day job.
Not a bit of it, we are dealing with ‘Money Men’ and megalomaniacs, the vilest forms of humanity to crawl across the face of the earth.
Think we don’t have fools dealing with nasty people?
cav551:
we are dealing with ‘Money Men’ and megalomaniacs, the vilest forms of humanity to crawl across the face of the earth.
+1
Having also created the even worse situation of those allied with deluded Soviet Socialists wishing to rebuild the Soviet Union and Yugoslav Federation across Europe.
Franglais:
It is indeed a carefully crafted plan: The arch perpetrator Nigel Farage was pulling the strings of his puppet Cameron to get the referendum in the first place.
When Johnson seemed likely to become Tory leader, and get a halfway proper Brexit, Gove was instructed to sabotage his chances.
We can now see May is weakened by her secret opponents, and an election looms, so the time is right for the Machiavellian Nigel to take the reins of UKIP, get a Parliamentary majority, and lead us all out of Europe.
UKIP struggle to get a majority? No, after dissolution of this Government the likes of Rees-Mogg will cross over. These “men of the people” will bring farm labouers, truck drivers, and nurses along with the ■■■■■ handed sons of the Stock Exchange. Honest hedge-funders will stop their sweated labour to give their support to these ordinary representatives of the masses. No problem with such support to win enough for a strong Government.
Yep, you gentlemen have seen through all the fog to see the plans laid by Farage. Don’t worry it’ll all be over by Christmas!
If Farage came back to hijack the leadership of UKIP now,and with UKIP supporters having the benefit of hindsight,he wouldn’t have a party to lead when all the Batten supporters walk away.The reality of the situation is that Farage is at best a fool or at worse controlled opposition.On that note do you really think that anyone of Farage’s calibre would have been expected to support remainer Hammond drawing up the Referendum to be a non binding document on the government and then advising the UKIP vote to trust May to deliver ‘Brexit’,having also failed to define for the electorate what Cameron actually meant by ‘Leave’,while also walking away from the process completely at that point himself.No surprise though that deluded remainers would want to keep shifting attention onto Farage and away from Batten in that regard because they know that if UKIP was led by Farage again UKIP wouldn’t need remainers as enemies.When it’s Batten who is really the formidable force that remainers fear most.With good reason.Although even Batten doesn’t seem to want to follow the trail of treason in this to the logical conclusion at the topAlthough having said that probably,like much of the country,he can’t bring himself to think the unthinkable that not only are we under the rule of a parliament gone rogue,but even the office of Head of ‘State’ seems to be anything but.
As for Rees Mogg no he’s just another one of the Cons acting out the part of good cop to keep the pretend anti Federalists in the Conservative Federalist Party happy while his leader gets on with selling out the country to the real megalomaniacs like Blair and Juncker and Barnier etc just like Heath and Major and Cameron before her.
malmic:
Franglais I much prefer your satire to those who think it’s funny to post demeaning photos of Theresa May.
So do I Malmic,
What a surprise remainers leaping to the defence of their stooge May who,as we’ve all guessed and now finally seen beyond doubt,was placed in the job by Cameron to look after their interests and not the majority who voted to leave the EU.On that note it’s really not possible to demean anyone,who’s sold out the country to a foreign power,to meet their own personal Federalist ideology and aims.
So stalemate looks like its been reached . No deal Brexit then … erm we cant have that because it wont get voted through with a big enough majority . Well i thought it didnt matter about who wins the vote if we remoan enough we should get our way
.Why not see what Corbyns alternative Brexit deal would be i would love to see the Eurosceptics way forward oh hang on he wants to remain now .
How on earth can we have another General Election if we dont have a democratic vote … something we arent capable of upholding in this country anymore .Lets bring in the Euro and sell ourselves of for ever .If no Brexit happens it will be the biggest injustice this country has seen in many years.
ramone:
If no Brexit happens it will be the biggest injustice this country has seen in many years.
The plan was always for the Brexit process to be put in the hands of Remainers like May and Hammond.Who’ve predictablty kept us in the EU while also getting rid of UKIP’s MEP’s and signing us up to a no future secession clause.Then they’ve called that Brexit on the basis that they think that Leave voters are too stupid to understand the difference between remain + as opposed to leave.
ramone:
So stalemate looks like its been reached . No deal Brexit then … erm we cant have that because it wont get voted through with a big enough majority . Well i thought it didnt matter about who wins the vote if we remoan enough we should get our way
.Why not see what Corbyns alternative Brexit deal would be i would love to see the Eurosceptics way forward oh hang on he wants to remain now .
How on earth can we have another General Election if we dont have a democratic vote … something we arent capable of upholding in this country anymore .Lets bring in the Euro and sell ourselves of for ever .If no Brexit happens it will be the biggest injustice this country has seen in many years.
Now I am wondering if this so called deal of Mrs May’s could be challenged in the high court by those who voted to leave with no strings attached, there was no mention of a deal at the beginning of this process it was a democratic vote to just exit the EU that was it plain and simple. The government at the time spent millions sending out information of the consequences of the vote and 17.1 million voted to leave, so why have we not long gone.
Now there is talk of a second referendum which would be a farce as we cannot now trust our people in Westminster at all and the vote would in any case probably be rigged, nothing would surprise me now. General election and Labour would win as even loyal Tories would vote against May as a protest and that would be even worse.
If you got cancer you cut it all out, you don’t leave bits in to regrow and eventually kill you off which is what will happen unless we get a complete clean break. We and our children and grand children will be paying for ever if we don’t get out now, don’t even think God could help us then Buzzer.
ramone:
So stalemate looks like its been reached . No deal Brexit then … erm we cant have that because it wont get voted through with a big enough majority . Well i thought it didnt matter about who wins the vote if we remoan enough we should get our way
.Why not see what Corbyns alternative Brexit deal would be i would love to see the Eurosceptics way forward oh hang on he wants to remain now .
How on earth can we have another General Election if we dont have a democratic vote … something we arent capable of upholding in this country anymore .Lets bring in the Euro and sell ourselves of for ever .If no Brexit happens it will be the biggest injustice this country has seen in many years.
Now I am wondering if this so called deal of Mrs May’s could be challenged in the high court by those who voted to leave with no strings attached, there was no mention of a deal at the beginning of this process it was a democratic vote to just exit the EU that was it plain and simple. The government at the time spent millions sending out information of the consequences of the vote and 17.1 million voted to leave, so why have we not long gone.
Now there is talk of a second referendum which would be a farce as we cannot now trust our people in Westminster at all and the vote would in any case probably be rigged, nothing would surprise me now. General election and Labour would win as even loyal Tories would vote against May as a protest and that would be even worse.
If you got cancer you cut it all out, you don’t leave bits in to regrow and eventually kill you off which is what will happen unless we get a complete clean break. We and our children and grand children will be paying for ever if we don’t get out now, don’t even think God could help us then Buzzer.
It’s clear that all the Leave side literature referred to the full return of sovereignty including immigration policy and fishing rights and stopping further contributions in which by definition no one voted for anything other than a no deal Brexit.The idea that we must maintain membership of the so called European single market and with it its qualifying rules,thereby contradicting that manifesto,was/is all a pre planned remainer plot to subvert the decision to leave.When all we needed to do was to tear up the European Communities Act walk away and tell the Germans if they want a trade war they can have one.
While a vote for UKIP instead of Con thereby replacing a Con MP with a UKIP one helps Labour how.While it was loyal Conservatives voting for Heath,Thatcher,Major and Cameron who got us into this situation.‘Loyal’ in this case translating as loyal Federalists just as it says on the tin of the Party’s title.
malmic:
Franglais I much prefer your satire to those who think it’s funny to post demeaning photos of Theresa May.
Is this one better?
According to one source Mandelson will receive about £31,000 per annum when he reaches 65. Kinnock about £90,000 per annum.
Maybe the figures on that pretty poster depend on how long they live?
More pension than I’ll make tis sure.
Oh, the source of those figures was the well know, commie inspired, Daily Telegraph…
What source for the figures under the pictures?
Edit. And hasn’t the Gov already said it’ll match farming subsidies, so Heseltine etc won’t win/loose by in/out anyway? We wouldn’t want to drop any hints or make false accusations would we?
I’m not a fan of Farage but at least he was democratically elected as an MEP not like the other leeches in the picture
who are just a small piece of what is massively wrong in the undemocratic and unelected EU monstrosity
So I’ve received a reply from my MP, and not an Email but a proper letter on House of Commons headed paper. I’ll not disclose all that he has written, but he does state that he intends to vote against the proposed deal “in its present form”. He also names it as the ‘No Point’ Brexit, which is quite apt.
He might just get my vote at the next General Election.
