GORDON 50:
Thanks, but my knowledge is that limited I don’t even know exactly what a URL is (although I have heard the term), let alone how to copy one!
It’s the actual web page link shown at the top of the screen.
Just write it with your post remembering to use the www. or http:// and it will appear as a link automatically no need for all the over complicated copy and paste bs.
Carryfast:
muckles:
The problem is the Major European truck Manufactures got together to agree the Factory Gate prices, which is anti competitive.Or got together to make sure that all the costs of EU imposed emissions regs were passed on in full to the customer.Not absorbed by any or all of the manufacturers in question.Which helps no one but at worse just leads to job losses because of the effects on the balance sheet,of trying to absorb artificially imposed costs,to remain ‘competitive’.
Just google the word “cartel”…
F-reds:
Carryfast:
muckles:
The problem is the Major European truck Manufactures got together to agree the Factory Gate prices, which is anti competitive.Or got together to make sure that all the costs of EU imposed emissions regs were passed on in full to the customer.Not absorbed by any or all of the manufacturers in question.Which helps no one but at worse just leads to job losses because of the effects on the balance sheet,of trying to absorb artificially imposed costs,to remain ‘competitive’.
Just google the word “cartel”…
How does what I’ve described fit the definition of cartel.In just the same way that a specific industry wide minimum wage agreement wouldn’t.
IE in this case it’s just a case of removing a legislative cost,that’s applicable to all,from the competitive tendering process.Thereby maintaining economic viability across the manufacturing industry and employment levels.
Unless you’re saying that emissions regs are put in place to create a competitive advantage for some over others.Which itself would be a more corrupt situation than ‘cartel’ would be.
What a load of pigs ■■■■!
Switch it off!!!
Rikki-UK:
Carryfast:
It would probably be cheaper and easier for all those countries to leave the EU and join EFTA with us.
Off subject like may of your recent comments on threads, you have the in or out thread use that to continue to make your point rather than spamming others.
Thank you.
I wont do all of his posts on this subject, but PLEASE !!!
I started reading this out of interest but got to the 4th maybe 5th boring usual crap by this poster/moron and thought WTF can’t be bothered to go on any further with his BS
CARRYFAST will you please stop high-jacking “interesting” posts just so that you can mouth of your idealogistic BS, you are now becoming
A PAIN 
Carryfast:
F-reds:
Carryfast:
muckles:
The problem is the Major European truck Manufactures got together to agree the Factory Gate prices, which is anti competitive.Or got together to make sure that all the costs of EU imposed emissions regs were passed on in full to the customer.Not absorbed by any or all of the manufacturers in question.Which helps no one but at worse just leads to job losses because of the effects on the balance sheet,of trying to absorb artificially imposed costs,to remain ‘competitive’.
Just google the word “cartel”…
How does what I’ve described fit the definition of cartel.In just the same way that a specific industry wide minimum wage agreement wouldn’t.
IE in this case it’s just a case of removing a legislative cost,that’s applicable to all,from the competitive tendering process.Thereby maintaining economic viability across the manufacturing industry and employment levels.
Unless you’re saying that emissions regs are put in place to create a competitive advantage for some over others.Which itself would be a more corrupt situation than ‘cartel’ would be.
Carryfast:
GORDON 50:
Thanks, but my knowledge is that limited I don’t even know exactly what a URL is (although I have heard the term), let alone how to copy one!It’s the actual web page link shown at the top of the screen.
Just write it with your post remembering to use the www. or http:// and it will appear as a link automatically no need for all the over complicated copy and paste bs.
Carryfast:
muckles:
So what do you suggest, no emission regs?At least regs which allow manufacturers to make sure that the costs are borne by the customer and end user not the manufacturer.
Carryfast:
muckles:
The problem is the Major European truck Manufactures got together to agree the Factory Gate prices, which is anti competitive.Or got together to make sure that all the costs of EU imposed emissions regs were passed on in full to the customer.Not absorbed by any or all of the manufacturers in question.Which helps no one but at worse just leads to job losses because of the effects on the balance sheet,of trying to absorb artificially imposed costs,to remain ‘competitive’.
Carryfast:
Evil8Beezle:
Carryfast:
The manufacturers co operate to pass on the costs of EU imposed emissions regs.The EU fines them for co operating.In which case operators/customers have either now got the costs of the fines to be passed on and the costs of meeting the emissions regs or the manufacturers take the hit on either or both.Leading to job losses possibly involving Brit workers in addition to others.How is that a good thing.I believe the idea is that they each independently innovate to the long term benefit of everyone…
The fines aren’t about independent innovation.They are about co operation between the manufacturers in passing on the respective costs to the customer.Which the EU obviously doesn’t like because that has wider political implications than just hitting the industry with those costs by them not passing them on.
Again with the disclaimer that has nothing specifically to do with Brexit only the topic.
But EU government as part of the topic.Yes.
Carryfast:
muckles:
It’s no wonder the general public believe all those in any sort of position of power treat us with total contempt, while filling their boot at our expense.The manufacturers co operate to pass on the costs of EU imposed emissions regs.The EU fines them for co operating.In which case operators/customers have either now got the costs of the fines to be passed on and the costs of meeting the emissions regs or the manufacturers take the hit on either or both.Leading to job losses possibly involving Brit workers in addition to others.How is that a good thing.
Message to Rikki this is in no way meant as a Brexit topic connection.
Carryfast:
muckles:
It’s no wonder the general public believe all those in any sort of position of power treat us with total contempt, while filling their boot at our expense.The manufacturers co operate to pass on the costs of EU imposed emissions regs.The EU fines them for co operating.In which case operators/customers have either now got the costs of the fines to be passed on and the costs of meeting the emissions regs or the manufacturers take the hit on either or both.Leading to job losses possibly involving Brit workers in addition to others.How is that a good thing.
Message to Rikki this is in no way meant as a Brexit topic connection.
the nodding donkey:
Rikki-UK:
Carryfast:
It would probably be cheaper and easier for all those countries to leave the EU and join EFTA with us.Off subject like many of your recent comments on threads, you have the in or out thread use that to continue to make your point rather than spamming others.
Thank you.
+184720583849302948559403 
ps. just put an ‘N’ in your ‘may’ Rikki hope you don’t mind 
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Carryfast:
GORDON 50:
Thanks, but my knowledge is that limited I don’t even know exactly what a URL is (although I have heard the term), let alone how to copy one!It’s the actual web page link shown at the top of the screen.
Just write it with your post remembering to use the www. or http:// and it will appear as a link automatically no need for all the over complicated copy and paste bs.
Thanks carryfast, I had half an idea it might be something like that just, never tried it.
I’m still trying to get my head round digital tachos, that’s doing my head in (yes, I’m old school)!