There you go carryfast, start a thread on speed limiters and try to stay on topic. 
jakethesnake:
There you go carryfast, start a thread on speed limiters and try to stay on topic.
Actually it seems to be Winseer who started that particular diversion.
So back on topic rule 187 effectively says don’t approach/enter a roundabout side by side with a large truck.Stay well out of its way behind it.It’s got absolutely nothing to do with the width of the thing it’s all about the length and where that length is all going to go.It’s not rocket science.
robthedog:
newmercman:
Speed limiters and roundabouts have little to do with one another. Keep on topic, if you want to debate speed limiters, speed limits, or any other unrelated drivel then start a new thread please.Rather odd that all your interventions concerns the snake isn’t it seems to be a reoccurring theme ummmm
That was to our no.1 thread detailer Carryfast, he was the one that mentioned speed limiters and raising their threshold
jakethesnake
Personally I think when you worked in training as long as I did you never really stop watching other drivers and what they do. It don’t upset me but it does get depressing to see the crap standard of some.
UNBELIIEVABLE !!!
WHo do you think you are kidding you write so much,most of it in your little fantasy world and your little brain forgets what it writes, only a couple of post ago your harping on about how good you were and welcomed your assessment drives to make sure you were up to scratch, now on this post your the trainer dear oh dear get a grip and try to remember what you’ve previously posted as your not very good at this, no doubt you’ll be along to deny as usual.
jakethesnake
The other problem that arises is (especially with experienced drivers) they will change their driving style on an assessment to keep the assessor happy then revert back to their bad habits the next day. All drivers should be regularly but it needs to be done properly and half an hour or hour rarely tells the whole story. In my opinion no driver should object to an assessment as long as they are getting paid at the time. Doing the job I did I had regular assessments and exams in which a higher standard was expected and for me I looked forward to it to prove I could do my job correctly.
Your quote from earlier
newmercman:
That was to our no.1 thread detailer Carryfast, he was the one that mentioned speed limiters and raising their threshold
It was actually Winseer who started that not me. 
jakethesnake:
I am referring to the situation the op brought up in the first place where he is being bullied onto the kerb by car drivers (BELIEVE IT OR NOT)
That is correct. They must have read my mind that the last thing I want (other than killing someone by running them over) is to be involved in an accident however minor and have that as a stain on my record and, according to some here - have it then affect my private car insurance, plus fill out 2 tomes of paperwork and undergo company investigation on top of dealing with police, insurance companies etc. I’d rather mount a curb, I’m sure the rental company has calculated running costs into their rental price.
So car drivers must have obtained this knowledge and are doing as they please, bullying their way into queues, roundabouts, out of junctions etc. knowing very well that a truck driver WILL do everything (within reason) in his power to avoid an accident. They see us as the big fat kids in the school yard, they hit us then they run (figuratively speaking). That’s bullying 101. They don’t see us for the gentle giants that we really are 
Carryfast:
newmercman:
That was to our no.1 thread detailer Carryfast, he was the one that mentioned speed limiters and raising their thresholdIt was actually Winseer who started that not me.
Ahhh, well I apologise then.
ETS:
So car drivers must have obtained this knowledge and are doing as they please, bullying their way into queues, roundabouts, out of junctions etc. knowing very well that a truck driver WILL do everything (within reason) in his power to avoid an accident. They see us as the big fat kids in the school yard, they hit us then they run (figuratively speaking). That’s bullying 101. They don’t see us for the gentle giants that we really are
That might be the case in a few rare examples.
But it’s more like they see roundabouts as an overtaking opportunity and they are going by the logic that if the lines are more than the overall width of the truck then the truck can obviously stay within them at all points through the roundabout.
Terms like length and allowing for cut in just go over their head and with it rule 187 of the highway code.
ETS:
jakethesnake:
I am referring to the situation the op brought up in the first place where he is being bullied onto the kerb by car drivers (BELIEVE IT OR NOT)That is correct. They must have read my mind that the last thing I want (other than killing someone by running them over) is to be involved in an accident however minor and have that as a stain on my record and, according to some here - have it then affect my private car insurance, plus fill out 2 tomes of paperwork and undergo company investigation on top of dealing with police, insurance companies etc. I’d rather mount a curb, I’m sure the rental company has calculated running costs into their rental price.
So car drivers must have obtained this knowledge and are doing as they please, bullying their way into queues, roundabouts, out of junctions etc. knowing very well that a truck driver WILL do everything (within reason) in his power to avoid an accident. They see us as the big fat kids in the school yard, they hit us then they run (figuratively speaking). That’s bullying 101. They don’t see us for the gentle giants that we really are
I think you could be on to something here as I have experienced a similar attitude when driving cars.
People barging their way into situations driving older beat ups (usually without insurance) knowing full well that me in a late model Mercedes are going to yeild because I have respect, for both myself and others, when clearly they couldn’t give a flying fox.
My ML is getting older now and has already taken a couple of hits from four wheel driving so now I am not as hung up on damage. When I fitted a bull bar to it earlier this year, I dont seem to get cut up in traffic as much as when driving the Mrs. A class.
Funny that.