Every year this gets done ,it’s done as its a holiday period and goes in bank early so they estimate your weekly wage
Fuel bonus / normally £25 = estimated none
Hourly rate / normally £8.90 = paid at 7.95
Hours worked 69 hrs = paid 53 hrs
How do they estimate you’ll get 0 f/ b when you get 5 every week,how do they estimate your hourly rate at £7.95 when your on £8.95 p.h,don’t they look at your average hours ,53 hrs I wish .
It just amazes me they do it every year and every year your short ,never over estimate ,it doesn’t make any real difference too me but it’s the principle 
Have a good Xmas / new year
Do what I did, haul the manager over the counter and ask him to ring Sainsbury’s and get my shopping estimated for the week. He put his hand in his pocket and asked how much extra I needed, bless him 
A. Because they can. B. Because they care even less about you than you think. C. Because the majority of today’s workers put up with it.
Think that’s it in a cracker! Roll on next year hey?!
its amazing aint it. I get a day rate, i`ve been paid the exactly the same wage for the last 12 weeks (give or take a quid or 2) and they still managed to pay me short £250 quid…
P.S. i work at stobart s so thats like 98% of my ■■■■ poor wages 
stupidn00b:
its amazing aint it. I get a day rate, i`ve been paid the exactly the same wage for the last 12 weeks (give or take a quid or 2) and they still managed to pay me short £250 quid…P.S. i work at stobart s so thats like 98% of my ■■■■ poor wages
looking at who posted this originally maybe its just a Stobarts problem then.
We get paid early but are salaried. We have an earlier cut off date for our overtime but that just means we get an extra weeks overtime in January.
This is the problem when a company makes up the bulk of your wage from bonuses and the magical meal allowance that Stobart drivers want to tell everyone about.
Stobarts
Don’t put up with it any more, organise yourselves into a union and pick your own shop steward, not the one the company wants.
Whilst you continue to bend over it’ll carry on.
Juddian:
Don’t put up with it any more, organise yourselves into a union and pick your own shop steward, not the one the company wants.Whilst you continue to bend over it’ll carry on.
+1
Does it really matter as long as any under-estimate is rectified in the following month’s pay?
Roymondo:
Does it really matter as long as any under-estimate is rectified in the following month’s pay?
Yes it does. It affects some more than others and some even by today’s standards need every penny when it’s due.
Not only that, they’re earning interest on someone else’s money.
I got paid exactly to the penny what I’m actually due.
m1cks:
This is the problem when a company makes up the bulk of your wage from bonuses and the magical meal allowance that Stobart drivers want to tell everyone about.
+1
fredthered:
Roymondo:
Does it really matter as long as any under-estimate is rectified in the following month’s pay?Yes it does. It affects some more than others and some even by today’s standards need every penny when it’s due.
Not only that, they’re earning interest on someone else’s money.
All 0.001% of it ha
fredthered:
Roymondo:
Does it really matter as long as any under-estimate is rectified in the following month’s pay?Yes it does. It affects some more than others and some even by today’s standards need every penny when it’s due.
Not only that, they’re earning interest on someone else’s money.
Cobblers. The total “shortfall” on the OP’s figures is roughly £150 (after tax and NI) for the week, which earns the employer a few pennies in interest (about 62p assuming a very generous 5% interest and the employer holding onto it for a month - it would be a lot less if he is paid weekly). This is offset by the benefit to the employee of being paid a few days early (if he has debts he can pay some of them a bit early, if not he can gain about 10p a day for every day early that he is paid by sticking his salary in an interest-bearing account). Even if the employee neglects to take advantage, the employer is still losing far more by paying the employee early than he may have gained by holding on until the regular payday. And yes, I am well aware that with several thousand employees those 62p’s multiply up - but so do the losses by paying them all early.
Get over yourself man - I will assume you are either an employer or a lapdog to one?
I wasn’t being critical and some DO need everything they earn on time but now you’ve brought it up assuming that your generous £0.62p interest x 20000 employees equates to £12.5k - I wouldn’t mind that for doing nowt and just at the push of a button! And the shortfall of £150 on his weekly wage might have been needed for…food?
In addition, I’m sure most on here are earning mega bucks and can afford to bank their salary to earn a bit of interest before spending it? I bet not!
Don’t make laugh and a Merry Xmas to you Mr Scrooge! I will not trouble you again.
No, I wouldn’t mind £12.5k for “doing nothing” either - but (if I was the boss of this hypothetical firm with 20,000 employees) as it would also necessarily involve me losing roughly £2k per day for each day that the wage payment was advanced, I doubt I’d be looking to do it as a means of making money at the expense of my workforce.
But enough - I have turkey and stuff to finish cooking, wine to drink and (most of) my family around me, so Merry Xmas to you too 
dozy:
Every year this gets done ,it’s done as its a holiday period and goes in bank early so they estimate your weekly wage
Fuel bonus / normally £25 = estimated none
Hourly rate / normally £8.90 = paid at 7.95
Hours worked 69 hrs = paid 53 hrs
How do they estimate you’ll get 0 f/ b when you get 5 every week,how do they estimate your hourly rate at £7.95 when your on £8.95 p.h,don’t they look at your average hours ,53 hrs I wish .
It just amazes me they do it every year and every year your short ,never over estimate ,it doesn’t make any real difference too me but it’s the principle
Have a good Xmas / new year
Does the shortfall get made up in your next wage ?
Ours always get guesstimated at this time of year. If you’re not always doing the same hours week in, week out what else can they really do? Better to be slightly underpaid and be due a little more in January than have to pay back a wedge of cash that you’ve already spent, surely?
Proper agreements where the wages vary week to week pay the drivers individual average, best all round solution for all parties.
It’s unfair to underpay already underpaid people at Christmas, best solution find another job with people who appreciate good staff, when they haven’t got a decent driver to their name they’ll have a rethink.
I think I did say ‘slightly underpay’…
If mine is 20 quid less than it should be, then that’s a lot. There is never any doubt about getting it back in the New Year…
Sorry if I wasn’t very clear but I’ve had a couple of Vino Collapsoes 