peirre:
Winseer:
…so the secret of getting a decent wedge for working at stobarts is to invoice them as self-employed?84 hours @ £7.29ph plus 5x(13+5+25) otherwise is going to involve you getting paid for both breaks and poa by my reckoning - that is, to clear £600 and something quid a week…
Then once you
ve taken off various taxes from that £600+, that £612 top line doesnt look so attractive for an 84hr week
I agree. I’d rather take home £600 for a 48 hour week. 
sapper:
Know what you are saying contractdriver, it was just the way it sounded, like you have to prepare for 65 - 75 hours every week to earn. I did one shift for ES on a Sunday through the Agency and was paid 16 pounds per hour, ranted there was no meal allowance or any other allowance, but I did get a 15 hour shift out of it.Sapper
Be interested which agency pay £16 p/hr for Sunday…
Any details forthcoming?
mkb600:
sapper:
Know what you are saying contractdriver, it was just the way it sounded, like you have to prepare for 65 - 75 hours every week to earn. I did one shift for ES on a Sunday through the Agency and was paid 16 pounds per hour, ranted there was no meal allowance or any other allowance, but I did get a 15 hour shift out of it.Sapper
Be interested which agency pay £16 p/hr for Sunday…
Any details forthcoming?
There are a few, even Tosco pay £15.00 on a sunday, my preferred sunday customer pays £18.50ph, and, its a 12/14 hour day as well 
Ahh yes, but which paye AGENCY pay those rates?
We all know they are easy to achieve as full timers, but supermarkets will generally make sure you don’t do the 13th week on the spin, and get around AWD… Royal Mail are the only firm I know of so far that don’t go out of their way to dodge paying the contracted higher rates like this to their casuals.
Winseer:
Ahh yes, but which paye AGENCY pay those rates?We all know they are easy to achieve as full timers, but supermarkets will generally make sure you don’t do the 13th week on the spin, and get around AWD… Royal Mail are the only firm I know of so far that don’t go out of their way to dodge paying the contracted higher rates like this to their casuals.
Sorry mate, my rates are for “LTD” drivers,
Is there anybody left on PAYE doing agency work nowadays ?, I can`t remember the last time I met one [apart from my mate John ], and, TBF, the 13 week rule never gets a mention up here 
Its the way of the world I`m afraid 
mkb600:
sapper:
Know what you are saying contractdriver, it was just the way it sounded, like you have to prepare for 65 - 75 hours every week to earn. I did one shift for ES on a Sunday through the Agency and was paid 16 pounds per hour, ranted there was no meal allowance or any other allowance, but I did get a 15 hour shift out of it.Sapper
Be interested which agency pay £16 p/hr for Sunday…
Any details forthcoming?
DKM pay £16.50 on Sundays
DJB pay £15.60 Sundays
First Call pay £16.00 Sundays iirc
Eclipse pay £15.00 Sundays
I could name a few more but can’t be arsed now…
So Ltd pays somewhat more than a mere £1ph extra then?
Umbrella on the other hand is access to some compromise pay rate between PAYE and LTD for those who can’t be arsed with LTD themselves?
as ex-RM, I clearly know little about ltd. RM themselves don’t do it for casual staff as far as I’m aware.
Apart from cold-calling, how does the ltd driver go about getting odd shifts set up for themselves?
Contracts seem an easy enough concept, but I figured were not readily available.
I just want to do the work, and get paid some money. No advertising budgets, no buggering around cold calling every firm in the area, no sales spiel, no fuss. I’m not interested in undercutting as a private hire driver, so I’d not be competetive in the market place. Taking home over £600pw for a 48ish hours seems ok, but how much cash elsewhere has one got to invest to get this? Giving up DWP rights? Triple NIC’s?
Anyway…Assesment and Interview next week ! 