orys:
BTW: When Ireland introduced MOTs? Is that true, that it was something about 12 years ago? Some southern US states do not have it till today AFAIK.
True. Introduced in 2000 AND the Irish MOT, known as the NCT is valid for TWO years…!
HGV’s are tested every year.
So Poland not as bad then. But off course no-one is complaining here about Irish MOT rules…
I have a complaint to make in respect of Irish MOT rules 
as members of the eu workers are allowed to work in any member state,but only the indigenous people of each country has the right to work in his/her country,so when a brit goes for a brit job with the same skills as an immigrant the job should go to the brit,this works in other countries who look after their own,like canada,america,but sorry i forgot myself we are in the uk where every one except the brits are looked after 
ken57:
as members of the eu workers are allowed to work in any member state,but only the indigenous people of each country has the right to work in his/her country,so when a brit goes for a brit job with the same skills as an immigrant the job should go to the brit,this works in other countries who look after their own,like canada,america,but sorry i forgot myself we are in the uk where every one except the brits are looked after
Difference is that US and Canada aren’t members of the EU. Therefore you can’t go there if they don’t need you, but on the other hand, they can’t simply come here and work (maybe they can to UK, but definitely that’s not the rule in EU).
Nowadays there were Poles who were coming to UK and you were unhappy. But note that UK was hit by crisis much stronger than other countries. Maybe soon you will need to go abroad for work if the things will keep the same direction. Maybe even to Poland, which almost can’t feel the impact of the crisis and the progress, which was great in last years, is now smaller, but it’s still a big progress (compare it to downhill in UK). You won’t like to hear about the rules you are now proposing then, I bet.
it used to be the way in the eu,you had to have a work permit and they gave jobs to their own,i bet in poland if we started taking jobs and their locals couldnt get a job there would be big problems,ive been to poland did 13 trips in 1996 in winter time,cold,drab bad roads,so in 1 way i can see why they are here,but its our bosses here who have screwed up,how does an east eu driver fill out an application form in english? does some 1 phone poland for a reference? i think there is a conspiricy somewhere 
I heard somewhere that the Polish are getting killed in Russia as the locals think they are taking their jobs. Have you heard this Orys?
Please only don’t spread the myths arround, as most of them are harming for my country.
I don’t see what you are getting at there Orys. I haven’t been spreading myths about your country■■? 
ken57:
how does an east eu driver fill out an application form in english? does some 1 phone poland for a reference? i think there is a conspiricy somewhere
Off course theye are other examples, but believe me, or not, I have no problem to fill an application form. I can even write a covering letter, and I dare to tell, that many of members of this forum will require some help with that. Bah - you even have some goverment agency which is doing that for people - it’s called “careers scotland” and you can go there and ask for help in such situation.
Yes, in my case they called Poland two times - once on mobile phone. And they sent some e-mails for references as well 
I dont know why I keep reading this it just winds me up. When my missus was alive (bless her) she got laid off for the first time in her working life .The local Leicester dole office gave her a mountain of forms to fill in . She noticed that our ethnic friends who,s english was not so good had the forms filled in for them . Must admit she wrote a cracking letter to the local paper but for some reason it never got published.
EnglishTrucker:
I heard somewhere that the Polish are getting killed in Russia as the locals think they are taking their jobs. Have you heard this Orys?
Yeh, thousands of people from many countries want to go to work to russia. Everyone just dream to live there and drive own 30 yrs old Moskvich
Never heard nothing about
EnglishTrucker:
Please only don’t spread the myths arround, as most of them are harming for my country.
For you it was about that you don’t believe that we have MOT’s in Poland and something else. It’s just about all this crap I hear here
"All Poles are wearing moustaches, (including womens), eating cabbage (including babies) and the national sport is claiming benefits in foreign countries and driving untaxed vehicles in Britain and side-swapping british vehicles on motorway 
That off course wasn’t to you only.
orys:
EnglishTrucker:
Please only don’t spread the myths arround, as most of them are harming for my country.For you it was about that you don’t believe that we have MOT’s in Poland and something else. It’s just about all this crap I hear here
"All Poles are wearing moustaches, (including womens), eating cabbage (including babies) and the national sport is claiming benefits in foreign countries and driving untaxed vehicles in Britain and side-swapping british vehicles on motorway
You forgot nicking diesel off ■■■■■ scumbags 
Wheel Nut:
I like to read the stories from Orys as he shows a great sense of humour and understanding of our country, but as this thread started as a total zenophobic post again anyone distinctly Eastern European or who doesn’t hail from Norfolk or East Anglia.
I presume you mean our friend with the fondness of the big V and not those of us bumpkins with a balanced mind ?
Wheel Nut:
I dont think anyone, on these forums or elswhere is saying that illegal activity is to be condoned. If a driver whether, Polish, British, West African or Martian commits an offence then the full weight of the law should be used against them.The Government is planning to give police new powers to issue on-the-spot fines to foreign drivers caught committing traffic offences.
This quote highlights the archaic rules that we still have in the UK. Any driver who works abroad will be used to the system, a driver who cannot provide a current home address in that country will have to pay a fine or bond at the roadside.
I am pleased that we are in the EU, this allows me to go and work in any EU country of my choice without excessive bureaucracy. I also like the fact that people can move around the community to marry, go shopping and follow their sport.
In all these 17 or 18 pages, no one seems to complain that their favourite football team has just signed someone called Allajeh Joof or Pitchou N’Ganga. Is it because the English are just crap at playing sport? or is it because they were cheaper?
The NHS rely on the rest of the world for supplying it with staff. I have been treated with respect by a Cuban doctor treating me daily in a free hospital for almost 6 months. This hospital was not funded by the NHS either.
I like to read the stories from Orys as he shows a great sense of humour and understanding of our country, but as this thread started as a total zenophobic post again anyone distinctly Eastern European or who doesn’t hail from Norfolk or East Anglia. I would hate so see it degenerate into a personalised attack or witchhunt against one man who is obviously very proud of his own country, his adopted country & proud of the fact he is educated, proud of the fact that he is also earning a small living with a part time job.
limp wristed liberal yoghurt knitter!
scaniav8power:
Wheel Nut:
I dont think anyone, on these forums or elswhere is saying that illegal activity is to be condoned. If a driver whether, Polish, British, West African or Martian commits an offence then the full weight of the law should be used against them.The Government is planning to give police new powers to issue on-the-spot fines to foreign drivers caught committing traffic offences.
This quote highlights the archaic rules that we still have in the UK. Any driver who works abroad will be used to the system, a driver who cannot provide a current home address in that country will have to pay a fine or bond at the roadside.
I am pleased that we are in the EU, this allows me to go and work in any EU country of my choice without excessive bureaucracy. I also like the fact that people can move around the community to marry, go shopping and follow their sport.
In all these 17 or 18 pages, no one seems to complain that their favourite football team has just signed someone called Allajeh Joof or Pitchou N’Ganga. Is it because the English are just crap at playing sport? or is it because they were cheaper?
The NHS rely on the rest of the world for supplying it with staff. I have been treated with respect by a Cuban doctor treating me daily in a free hospital for almost 6 months. This hospital was not funded by the NHS either.
I like to read the stories from Orys as he shows a great sense of humour and understanding of our country, but as this thread started as a total zenophobic post again anyone distinctly Eastern European or who doesn’t hail from Norfolk or East Anglia. I would hate so see it degenerate into a personalised attack or witchhunt against one man who is obviously very proud of his own country, his adopted country & proud of the fact he is educated, proud of the fact that he is also earning a small living with a part time job.
limp wristed liberal yoghurt knitter!
And your contribution to these 18 pages of crap is what?
Sorry. I must have missed your diary about your last trip to Poland.
Wheel Nut:
You forgot nicking diesel off ■■■■■ scumbags
Yeah, and stealing from Lidl. As common opinion shows all Poles doind that
There is much more myths I would be happy to forget about
Goaty:
Wheel Nut:
I like to read the stories from Orys as he shows a great sense of humour and understanding of our country, but as this thread started as a total zenophobic post again anyone distinctly Eastern European or who doesn’t hail from Norfolk or East Anglia.
Yep but he doesn’t hail from those parts himself, he’s already said he originally came from Peckham, but decided to invade us poor buggers.
muckles:
Goaty:
Wheel Nut:
I like to read the stories from Orys as he shows a great sense of humour and understanding of our country, but as this thread started as a total zenophobic post again anyone distinctly Eastern European or who doesn’t hail from Norfolk or East Anglia.
Yep but he doesn’t hail from those parts himself, he’s already said he originally came from Peckham, but decided to invade us poor buggers.
Is it possible he just got lost after knitting some yogurt at a pie and mash shop one day, took a wrong turn home and ended up in little Poland. perhaps it was all just a big sat nav problem and now he is there.
orys:
greg50:
orys.
i dont normally reply to you.i feel i must do so now.I wonder: Are you usually don’t speak with Poles? Or there is any other reason and it’s particularly about myself?
nothing personal whatsoever orrys,i have nothing against you and do find your posts interesting.
i am one of the drivers that would like to see all the poles sent home.
i feel i have good reason to say this.because theres too many over in ireland and england.
I am always interested to hear from you, at least I live in this country so it’s good to know the local’s mood and opinion.
i am actually from ireland but my partner is english,that is my reason for being in the uk.i have seen the polish problem in both countries.
when poland joined the eu.there was places for some to come to ireland and england.
i read figures in the paper saying theres 500,000 in britain and 250,000 in ireland.
these figures,i dont believe.
i would double or treble themI don’t believe in them either. They are estimated that in the top moment there was about 1000 000 of Poles in Britain only.
both countries are saturated with poles,are in a lot of cases they are working cheaper then the local people can afford to.
That part I can never understand. So Poles are able to come here, work for less, while they sitll have to rent a flat, some of them are buying a flats or houses, they still buy a food, a car, petrol or diesel, pay taxes and NIN and all that at the same price than Brits. Then they are flying to Poland very often to see their family and as you claim, they sending most of their salaries there (I not). So they have to live as every other people in this country and on the top of that they travel very often through half of Europe and sending money home and they still can manage that from smaller salaries than Brits? Please be honest and call that “Poles are working for smaller money than Brits want to”, no “that Brits can afford”.
they tend to live many to a house,those that dont live in trucks,this keeps the expenses down.
i know in dublin,they[poles] are laughing about taking the jobs of the locals.
not a very good advertisment for polish popularity.There is some amount of people who are not a good advertisment for their community in every nation…
i cant bring myself to deal with polish in a civil manner when i have to work with them.
i never had a gripe wwith them,but now.i have a big issue with them and would rather see them all gone back home.I fully understand your position. It’s always better to rid off competition when times are getting thight.
most of them send a large bulk of their wages home,not circulating the money in local economies.
i know plenty of them,earning in the region of 7/800 euro.living off 200 and sending the rest home.
they live frugal existance,
the international drivers fill their bags off the ships.i have seen this so many times and had no dinner myself when one of the last on a ship.
its gone to the casbins in bagsTell me: how you imagine that it’s possible? Are they sending all money back to Poland and their families are sending them parcels with tents (to save them from spending money on flats), candles and batteries (to save them from spending money on electricity), sandiches, cabbage and sassauges (to save them from spending money on food) and petrol (to save them from spending money for fuel)?
Come on, it’s impossible to live in some country and do not take part if this country economics.
they rent houses and have 10 people living in them,its easy and cheap doing it that way.i now read that in poland on some building sites,they wont employ english or irish.
this was in the irish newspapers.
its happening here as well.my wife has an nephew,hes in the building trade,he went looking for work in liverpool where he is from.the polish boss told him
“no english on this site”i would have found it hard to restrain myself if this were said to me by a foreign national living in my country
[zb]. They will employ everyone who want to work for salary offered. There is already a bunch of British companies working in Poland, we have even English bus drivers and the biggest buidling company in Poland is Skanska, from Sweden IIRC and they employ much swedish engeeners… So if you will be struggling with money, you are welcome. Please only learn some basic Polish, becouse, as milodon likes to emphasize, many Poles do not speak english, especially back in home.
they came over after the berlin wall was brought down,but,we are paying the price.
i did mean to say they had joined the eu.but the falling of the berlin wall was the begining of the eastern bloc countries jioning the eu
To be correct with history: they were coming a lot in 80s here. When the Berlin Wall fell, the things in Poland improved radically, so there were no significant emigration from Poland in 90s. After Poland joined EC and becomed part of unificated european work market, mass emigration started as it wasn’t any longer complicated thing to do.