Employers and DUI on license, how much of a handicap?

I’m wondering how employers would look on someone with a DUI on their car license. Does it come into it at all, or are the 2 completely separate, would it be likely to make someone unemployable?
Many thanks,
Scrub

dui comes under all driving licence entitlements you have so if you had a car and class 2 licence you can loose both

Scrub:
I’m wondering how employers would look on someone with a DUI on their car license. Does it come into it at all, or are the 2 completely separate, would it be likely to make someone unemployable?
Many thanks,
Scrub

Hi Scrub WELCOME :grimacing:
I notice that your terminology is American, so was this a US conviction :question:

A car and truck licence is all on the same document in the UK.
The vehicle categories authorised on the licence depend on which driving tests you’ve passed.

No, I thought DUI was normal over here as well, (Driving under the influence) thats what my insurance company ask when I change over so…

buffoon:
dui comes under all driving licence entitlements you have so if you had a car and class 2 licence you can loose both

Basically, I have no points on my license although I have a DUI from 2002. I’m looking into getting my HGV 2&1 and wondering if when going for a job afterwards if this will need to be declared, or if they would only need to see my HGV license.
Obviously this pushed my standard driving license insurance up quite some, not sure relevant this would be in the world of Trucks though. Anyone?

it will most definately effect your chances.

DD stays on your licence for 11 years. The conviction is for 10 years but it stays on for 1 further year. :open_mouth:

Some companies that advertise vacancies say no dr or dd offences

Scrub:
, or if they would only need to see my HGV license.

You no longer get a separate HGV licence.

Hmmmmm, sort of kicks that career move into touch doesn’t it. I was under the impression it may not be ‘so’ bad, but doesn’t look good. Might catch you in the future if I can see a way around this.
Cheers guys,
Scrub.

P.S. I see one of your guys had a bit of an accident on the A1 there earlier, all the police marksmen were out. Truck turned over and caught fire and they were having to shoot the pigs apparently.
Hope the drivers ok

I was under the impression it may not be ‘so’ bad,

:open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth: :open_mouth:

Not SO bad■■?
What planet does this thinking come from :open_mouth:

Well, one where I can only go off what I am told and up until now have only looked at a few training website (none of which mentioned any problems with having a DUI), and spoken to a guy from a training centre who only asked if I had a full license, no talk of points (I have none anyway) or dui making any difference to getting the license.
Although on thought, getting the license would maybe not be a problem, on more thought it will be getting the work. It has been 6 years and thought maybe this was taken into consideration as it is with my insurance for my standard license.
Why? :unamused:

it’ll be no problem getting the license mate, your problem will be finding a firm willing to let you use it.
there are some but not many

I’m just wondering if i should try and find a job before investing in it, someone who would be willing to take me on. Or maybe agencies don’t mind so much when desperate?
These will be off in 5 years so in a way if I could find someone until then I could use it as a long term ‘getting used to the job’ kinda intro.
Any ideas who these few may be? Would be very interested for any details I could try.

Scrub:
Well, one where I can only go off what I am told and up until now have only looked at a few training website (none of which mentioned any problems with having a DUI), and spoken to a guy from a training centre who only asked if I had a full license, no talk of points (I have none anyway) or dui making any difference to getting the license.

Hi Scrub i think the guy at the training school is thinking of the way his vehicle insurance might work. That company might not have any objection to a DD conviction. On the other hand, a haulage company’s insurers might take a different view of the same set of facts. Just a thought.

Scrub:
Although on thought, getting the license would maybe not be a problem, on more thought it will be getting the work. It has been 6 years and thought maybe this was taken into consideration as it is with my insurance for my standard license.
Why? :unamused:

One possibility put forward above I hope.

There’s something I’m not clear about. You said that you have a DUI, but we just don’t call it by that name. You said it was from 2002, but you’ve also said that you don’t have any points. Sorry Scrub but that doesn’t seem to make sense, since AFAIK a UK DD conviction remains on your licence for 11 years as PaulJC79 said. Were you convicted of DD in the UK??
Do you remember the conviction code and the penalty??

As buffoon said, some haulage companies wouldn’t entertain you, and if you lose your car licence, you would also automatically lose your truck licence and vice-versa, since they’re all on the same document.

Looking at my license now, It was a DR10. I have no points at all, even I questioned this originaly, but apparently is normal. As for DUI or DD, I’m sure DUI is what my insurance company ask me every year my renewal comes up so presumed it’s normal. Yes I got the DR10 here in the UK.

biggusdickusgb:
it’ll be no problem getting the license mate, your problem will be finding a firm willing to let you use it.
there are some but not many

Not so sure about that, you may be called to an interview with the traffic commissioner to prove that you are “a fit and proper person to hold a vocational licence”

This happened to me in 98 when I got my bus licence.
(Not for DD but insurance offences inc a 6 month ban under totting up, what can I say I was young and stupid and learn’t my lesson bloody quick)

Scrub:
Looking at my license now, It was a DR10. I have no points at all, even I questioned this originaly, but apparently is normal. As for DUI or DD, I’m sure DUI is what my insurance company ask me every year my renewal comes up so presumed it’s normal. Yes I got the DR10 here in the UK.

Hi Scrub, thanks for clarifying that.

The reason I asked was that it seemed strange because of this link :arrow_right: FROM DIRECT.GOV

The DR10 stuff is about halfway down the page.

So I’d say that you have some chance of employment once you have an LGV licence. As to which companies will or won’t employ you, I’m afraid that the companies have to follow their insurer’s wishes.
The fact that the DR10 was some time ago can only be to your benefit IMHO.

Thankyou for your input Dave, much appreciated. I suppose it’s a case of phoning around to see if anyone would be interested in taking me on once qualified eh? :cry:

Thanks again

Scrub:
Thankyou for your input Dave, much appreciated. I suppose it’s a case of phoning around to see if anyone would be interested in taking me on once qualified eh? :cry:

Thanks again

Yes Scrub, that’s about the size of it I’m afraid.
At least you won’t get too despondent in the face of a few negative responses, since you’ll be kind of expecting them.
Looking on the bright side, you can at least start the training process.

As a tip to get you on your way, please look at :arrow_right: ROG’s TRAINING TIPS

And some waffle from me about :arrow_right: TRUCK GEARBOXES

Please leave a comment on the end of each, if you find them useful :wink:
:grimacing: Thanks :grimacing:

You can get a job with a DR on your licence (DUI is an entirely American phrase) but a lot of companies insurance have certain offence codes they can’t insure drivers with, DR and DD (dangerous driving) being the main two.

You might be able to sort some work out before you take your licence, but as most people who pass their test with a clean licence have a lot of trouble getting work, I imagine an HGV driver with no experience and a DR10 would have a hell of a time, i’d just bear in mind if you splash out on your licences you may find it very difficult to get work.

And as said, on applying for your provisional C licence, the Traffic Commissioner will send you a letter stating their decision and reasonings. I got a letter purely because I had an SP50 on my licence when I applied for my provisional C.