Cop Car Workshop on freeview gives a great insight into the goings on on a seemingly weekly basis of the Cheshire force.
Along with the the non fault incidents, it also shows the results of the calamities of their professional “drivers”. The mind boggles at the expense incurred. Always wondered why you could never get a copper when you wanted one, now it’s obvious, all of their vehicles are off the road getting repaired.
I thought this was a good watch. Back to 1979 and how the Police worked on the M62. Back then they just cracked on and got the road open asap, rather than like nowadays where a lane will be shut forever just because of a breakdown. youtube.com/watch?v=qvw9DNQ … x=24&t=898
There’s a few of these videos on YouTube, something to watch if you’re killing time.
Carryfast:
You do know that I was referring to ze German version of the A60 and A1.Remind me what the letter A denotes.Their speed limit regime at least at that time obviously didn’t agree with your bs.
Where it’s been lowered since has more to do with Greens so called pollution issues than being scared of fast traffic on public roads.
Which race track will let you get anywhere close to 150 mph + other than maybe Goodwood or Oulton.The straights are too short and the bends are too tight.
My guess is you’ve never driven much over the ton and you wouldn’t last a mile among serious drivers on proper quick continental roads with a proper quick car.
While this type of driving was my day job within months of getting my HGV and couldn’t believe I actually got paid for it. youtube.com/watch?v=J0rgloeXfJM
How would I know? You did not say not that it makes any difference. Regarding tracks you obviously haven’t a clue. An awful lot depends on what you are driving or riding
and of course the ability of the driver. Road drivers new to tracks are generally useless to start with. They think they can drive at speed but alas they find they can’t.
It’s like most things you require plenty practice and plenty experience and most fail to exceed club level.
150+ is easily achievable at many tracks in the UK. Try Brands, Silverstone or Thruxton to name a few or if you want faster try Spa in Belgium.
Now go back to sleep and stop dreaming.
You replied to my previous post which clearly stated ‘autobahn’ at 150 mph +.
You clearly didn’t have a clue where or what that meant.
You thought the A1 and A60 meant Nottinghamshire not Rhineland Palatinate.
Le Mans 24 hours is the only place where you’d get those type of speed differentials.
Let me guess now you’re going to tell us you have an FIA Super Racing licence and you’ve driven LMP cars regularly.
As I said you wouldn’t have lasted a mile with the European version of the midnight club in the 80’s/'90’s.Let’s say the stretch between Liege and Trier or Kaiserslautern you’d obviously have zb yourself because you obviously don’t/can’t do quick road driving.
So exactly which parts of those tracks have you done 150 + and how long did you sustain it and what type of speed differentials v other traffic.
Speeds in the bends ?.
What exactly were you driving ?.
As I said it’s like 70 mph + with any or all of the live lanes potentially littered with parked cars and reversing trucks and those twisties on those roads are more than tight enough at those speeds.It was some some of the best fun I’ve ever had driving anything but unfortunately when 165 mph just isn’t enough especially v very rich AMG and Porsche 911 Turbo driving Luxemburgers.
While the type of driving shown in the vid regarding heavy emergency types testing was also far more fun than any tame road car track days regardless of the circuit.
While at that time the fastest police pursuit training usually couldn’t have exceeded around 140 mph but still enough to show them what handling 70 mph + speed differentials v other traffic means in practice.
Clearly more than you’ve ever known.
What is your point? It’s illegal for an NHS ambulance to use blue light and sirens, without legitimate cause. Same as fire, Police Coast guard etc.
Just, as it is illegal for a truck to drive in a bus lane when not permitted he will be fined… there are always rules.
Any emergency vehicle equipped with emergency devices, are able to be driven by drivers without training, and used without training.
Common sense, indicates that drivers will be trained but not a legal requirement.
Unless there have been changes the Police Fire and Ambulance drivers will go through the same blue light training is what you first disputed.
I am 100% sure they all go through the same blue light training. I never mentioned anything about legal requirments.
Your really clueless, a fire truck driver would not go through the same course as a Police officer or and Ambulance driver, the point is there is no legal requirement for blue lights, no licence , where a truck driver needs a licence.
Again, apart from in house training from the own employer, there is no legal requirement for training
As said, any private or non private service need a legal reason to use lights and sirens, could be from pulling a vehicle over to attending and RTI etc. oh, and the advance driver course you do as a civi is not the same as driving j der B&T conditions.
Oh dear you really need to try to keep up. Blue light training is exactly the same for the police ambulance and fire. They all go through the same course (or they used to not so many years ago)
and I doubt very much if that has changed. The training is the same for any individual who requires to use blue lights. It is set out in a certain way and has to be passed by the candidate.
jakethesnake:
Oh dear you really need to try to keep up. Blue light training is exactly the same for the police ambulance and fire. They all go through the same course (or they used to not so many years ago)
and I doubt very much if that has changed. The training is the same for any individual who requires to use blue lights. It is set out in a certain way and has to be passed by the candidate.
jakethesnake:
Oh dear you really need to try to keep up. Blue light training is exactly the same for the police ambulance and fire. They all go through the same course (or they used to not so many years ago)
and I doubt very much if that has changed. The training is the same for any individual who requires to use blue lights. It is set out in a certain way and has to be passed by the candidate.
Completely wrong, all different services have there own policy, there might be a National frame work of required standard, but there is not an official test, like a truck driver requires, there are different types of blue light driving courses, a Fire fighter would not go on an advance driving course for response or TPAC. Fire services have never gone through the same course as say the police , the ambulance service also have a different type of training … ROSPA, asked for a uniform training for blue light training, but there is no legal requirement , maybe you need to keep up and check lord Hansard.
There are private ambulance companies and local police authorise ■■■■ as tilbury port police Dover, or others forces who do not do then said course to Home office guidelines, however, they have the rights as a constable, even prison staff, have blue light vehicle and they do not do a blue light training course, well didn’t after I left the prison service in 2003.
You obviously, can’t accept your wrong and want to save face, so carry on, hope the fridge work is ok, with lockdown.
The basic blue light response course is virtually the same across all emergency services - it follows roadcraft with the added B&Ts
The TPAC is a higher course = the advanced course
jakethesnake:
Oh dear you really need to try to keep up. Blue light training is exactly the same for the police ambulance and fire. They all go through the same course (or they used to not so many years ago)
and I doubt very much if that has changed. The training is the same for any individual who requires to use blue lights. It is set out in a certain way and has to be passed by the candidate.
Completely wrong, all different services have there own policy, there might be a National frame work of required standard, but there is not an official test, like a truck driver requires, there are different types of blue light driving courses, a Fire fighter would not go on an advance driving course for response or TPAC. Fire services have never gone through the same course as say the police , the ambulance service also have a different type of training … ROSPA, asked for a uniform training for blue light training, but there is no legal requirement , maybe you need to keep up and check lord Hansard.
There are private ambulance companies and local police authorise ■■■■ as tilbury port police Dover, or others forces who do not do then said course to Home office guidelines, however, they have the rights as a constable, even prison staff, have blue light vehicle and they do not do a blue light training course, well didn’t after I left the prison service in 2003.
You obviously, can’t accept your wrong and want to save face, so carry on, hope the fridge work is ok, with lockdown.
Of course I will accept I am wrong if I am but from what I knew when I was employed and from friends in the services it is different to how you describe. I believe the military has the same system.Maybe I have been misinformed! However I ain’t really that bothered about it now but interesting to hear your views.
Fridge work with lockdown■■? I am retired and have been for a while. Don’t tell me you are another paranoid poster that thinks I have more that one ID?
ROG:
The basic blue light response course is virtually the same across all emergency services - it follows roadcraft with the added B&Ts
The TPAC is a higher course = the advanced course
Carryfast:
You do know that I was referring to ze German version of the A60 and A1.Remind me what the letter A denotes.Their speed limit regime at least at that time obviously didn’t agree with your bs.
Where it’s been lowered since has more to do with Greens so called pollution issues than being scared of fast traffic on public roads.
Which race track will let you get anywhere close to 150 mph + other than maybe Goodwood or Oulton.The straights are too short and the bends are too tight.
My guess is you’ve never driven much over the ton and you wouldn’t last a mile among serious drivers on proper quick continental roads with a proper quick car.
While this type of driving was my day job within months of getting my HGV and couldn’t believe I actually got paid for it. youtube.com/watch?v=J0rgloeXfJM
How would I know? You did not say not that it makes any difference. Regarding tracks you obviously haven’t a clue. An awful lot depends on what you are driving or riding
and of course the ability of the driver. Road drivers new to tracks are generally useless to start with. They think they can drive at speed but alas they find they can’t.
It’s like most things you require plenty practice and plenty experience and most fail to exceed club level.
150+ is easily achievable at many tracks in the UK. Try Brands, Silverstone or Thruxton to name a few or if you want faster try Spa in Belgium.
Now go back to sleep and stop dreaming.
You replied to my previous post which clearly stated ‘autobahn’ at 150 mph +.
You clearly didn’t have a clue where or what that meant.
You thought the A1 and A60 meant Nottinghamshire not Rhineland Palatinate.
Le Mans 24 hours is the only place where you’d get those type of speed differentials.
Let me guess now you’re going to tell us you have an FIA Super Racing licence and you’ve driven LMP cars regularly.
As I said you wouldn’t have lasted a mile with the European version of the midnight club in the 80’s/'90’s.Let’s say the stretch between Liege and Trier or Kaiserslautern you’d obviously have zb yourself because you obviously don’t/can’t do quick road driving.
So exactly which parts of those tracks have you done 150 + and how long did you sustain it and what type of speed differentials v other traffic.
Speeds in the bends ?.
What exactly were you driving ?.
As I said it’s like 70 mph + with any or all of the live lanes potentially littered with parked cars and reversing trucks and those twisties on those roads are more than tight enough at those speeds.It was some some of the best fun I’ve ever had driving anything but unfortunately when 165 mph just isn’t enough especially v very rich AMG and Porsche 911 Turbo driving Luxemburgers.
While the type of driving shown in the vid regarding heavy emergency types testing was also far more fun than any tame road car track days regardless of the circuit.
While at that time the fastest police pursuit training usually couldn’t have exceeded around 140 mph but still enough to show them what handling 70 mph + speed differentials v other traffic means in practice.
Clearly more than you’ve ever known.
Snakey youve been called out again by carryfast this time lol, why dont you answer his question or are you just going to brush over again surprise suprise surely your friend mr google will bail you out again wont he ?
So exactly which parts of those tracks have you done 150 + and how long did you sustain it and what type of speed differentials v other traffic.
Speeds in the bends ?.
What exactly were you driving ?.
I have raced motorbikes for many years in the UK and in Europe and have also done a bit of car racing although not at the same level as bikes.
One of my mates was an instructor at “the Green Hell” and I’ve seen many a road driver being made to look very stupid there.
I have driven on the German autobahns many times usually on the way to a track but never ever understood how anyone can get excited about driving at speed on them.
Nobody who has ever done track driving would be interested in putting so many others at risk on apublic road. Wait a minute…You would.
jakethesnake:
So exactly which parts of those tracks have you done 150 + and how long did you sustain it and what type of speed differentials v other traffic.
Speeds in the bends ?.
What exactly were you driving ?.
I have raced motorbikes for many years in the UK and in Europe and have also done a bit of car racing although not at the same level as bikes.
One of my mates was an instructor at “the Green Hell” and I’ve seen many a road driver being made to look very stupid there.
I have driven on the German autobahns many times usually on the way to a track but never ever understood how anyone can get excited about driving at speed on them.
Nobody who has ever done track driving would be interested in putting so many others at risk on apublic road. Wait a minute…You would.
Answer the question regarding exactly which parts of the tracks you listed did you exceed 150 mph or even 140 mph and for how long driving what type of car ?.
What were your speeds in exactly which corners I’m guessing you were talking about the pathetic National Circuit at Silverstone usually used for track days ?.
You wouldn’t get it because you couldn’t handle it.
The definition of forward planning and can definitely say it’s where I only really learn’t how to drive in terms of what that means.But unfortnately didn’t have the machinery to get up to the 300 kmh + level.
But sustained 160 mph speeds is where it starts to get interesting and ironically that was/is usually above the highest speeds attained in police pursuit driver training. youtube.com/watch?v=hnsY30rTpDU
As opposed to the Nurburgring Go kart track with people trying to get even close to autobahn speeds and often failing miserably who would have thought it.
At best most of the time under 120 mph often less than 60 mph and then without traffic to deal with. youtube.com/watch?v=k7VpB23JiIQ
After reading the fastest speeds clocked pre limiter days I noticed someone mentioned the speed done in a car so…what’s the highest speed you have done on 2, 4 or more wheels?
My highest in a car was 155 mph in a 3 litre Alpha on the autobahn in Germany.
On 2 wheels though at Elvington I clocked 206 mph (true speed) on a Kawasaki ZX 12R which was de restricted from the 186 when new. It was also highly tuned.
In my youth it was the thing to do the ton which I did manys a time on old British bikes but never ever thought I would do double that!
TBH Nothing to it, head behind fairing ,through the gears (0 to 100 mph is 4 secs apparently) and keep going hoping the front tyre doesn’t blow!
After reading the fastest speeds clocked pre limiter days I noticed someone mentioned the speed done in a car so…what’s the highest speed you have done on 2, 4 or more wheels?
My highest in a car was 155 mph in a 3 litre Alpha on the autobahn in Germany.
On 2 wheels though at Elvington I clocked 206 mph (true speed) on a Kawasaki ZX 12R which was de restricted from the 186 when new. It was also highly tuned.
In my youth it was the thing to do the ton which I did manys a time on old British bikes but never ever thought I would do double that!
TBH Nothing to it, head behind fairing ,through the gears (0 to 100 mph is 4 secs apparently) and keep going hoping the front tyre doesn’t blow!
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There you go carryfast the big man knows what the autobahn is now !!!
jakethesnake:
So exactly which parts of those tracks have you done 150 + and how long did you sustain it and what type of speed differentials v other traffic.
Speeds in the bends ?.
What exactly were you driving ?.
I have raced motorbikes for many years in the UK and in Europe and have also done a bit of car racing although not at the same level as bikes.
One of my mates was an instructor at “the Green Hell” and I’ve seen many a road driver being made to look very stupid there.
I have driven on the German autobahns many times usually on the way to a track but never ever understood how anyone can get excited about driving at speed on them.
Nobody who has ever done track driving would be interested in putting so many others at risk on apublic road. Wait a minute…You would.
Answer the question regarding exactly which parts of the tracks you listed did you exceed 150 mph or even 140 mph and for how long driving what type of car ?.
What were your speeds in exactly which corners I’m guessing you were talking about the pathetic National Circuit at Silverstone usually used for track days ?.
You wouldn’t get it because you couldn’t handle it.
The definition of forward planning and can definitely say it’s where I only really learn’t how to drive in terms of what that means.But unfortnately didn’t have the machinery to get up to the 300 kmh + level.
But sustained 160 mph speeds is where it starts to get interesting and ironically that was/is usually above the highest speeds attained in police pursuit driver training. youtube.com/watch?v=hnsY30rTpDU
As opposed to the Nurburgring Go kart track with people trying to get even close to autobahn speeds and often failing miserably who would have thought it.
At best most of the time under 120 mph often less than 60 mph and then without traffic to deal with. youtube.com/watch?v=k7VpB23JiIQ
Unfortunately I did not have a speedo but I knew my lap times and the speeds attainable on the straights.
Now stop going on about stupid go kart tracks and I don’t give a hoot about autobahn speeds. Any idiot can put his foot down in a straight line.
After reading the fastest speeds clocked pre limiter days I noticed someone mentioned the speed done in a car so…what’s the highest speed you have done on 2, 4 or more wheels?
My highest in a car was 155 mph in a 3 litre Alpha on the autobahn in Germany.
On 2 wheels though at Elvington I clocked 206 mph (true speed) on a Kawasaki ZX 12R which was de restricted from the 186 when new. It was also highly tuned.
In my youth it was the thing to do the ton which I did manys a time on old British bikes but never ever thought I would do double that!
TBH Nothing to it, head behind fairing ,through the gears (0 to 100 mph is 4 secs apparently) and keep going hoping the front tyre doesn’t blow!
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Apart from being one of the biggest trolls on here you can’t even understand that when I posted the above everyone was talking about ON THE ROADS.
Tracks were never mentioned.
After reading the fastest speeds clocked pre limiter days I noticed someone mentioned the speed done in a car so…what’s the highest speed you have done on 2, 4 or more wheels?
My highest in a car was 155 mph in a 3 litre Alpha on the autobahn in Germany.
On 2 wheels though at Elvington I clocked 206 mph (true speed) on a Kawasaki ZX 12R which was de restricted from the 186 when new. It was also highly tuned.
In my youth it was the thing to do the ton which I did manys a time on old British bikes but never ever thought I would do double that!
TBH Nothing to it, head behind fairing ,through the gears (0 to 100 mph is 4 secs apparently) and keep going hoping the front tyre doesn’t blow!
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Apart from being one of the biggest trolls on here you can’t even understand that when I posted the above everyone was talking about ON THE ROADS.
Tracks were never mentioned.
jakethesnake:
So exactly which parts of those tracks have you done 150 + and how long did you sustain it and what type of speed differentials v other traffic.
Speeds in the bends ?.
What exactly were you driving ?.
I have raced motorbikes for many years in the UK and in Europe and have also done a bit of car racing although not at the same level as bikes.
One of my mates was an instructor at “the Green Hell” and I’ve seen many a road driver being made to look very stupid there.
I have driven on the German autobahns many times usually on the way to a track but never ever understood how anyone can get excited about driving at speed on them.
Nobody who has ever done track driving would be interested in putting so many others at risk on apublic road. Wait a minute…You would.
Answer the question regarding exactly which parts of the tracks you listed did you exceed 150 mph or even 140 mph and for how long driving what type of car ?.
What were your speeds in exactly which corners I’m guessing you were talking about the pathetic National Circuit at Silverstone usually used for track days ?.
You wouldn’t get it because you couldn’t handle it.
The definition of forward planning and can definitely say it’s where I only really learn’t how to drive in terms of what that means.But unfortnately didn’t have the machinery to get up to the 300 kmh + level.
But sustained 160 mph speeds is where it starts to get interesting and ironically that was/is usually above the highest speeds attained in police pursuit driver training. youtube.com/watch?v=hnsY30rTpDU
As opposed to the Nurburgring Go kart track with people trying to get even close to autobahn speeds and often failing miserably who would have thought it.
At best most of the time under 120 mph often less than 60 mph and then without traffic to deal with. youtube.com/watch?v=k7VpB23JiIQ
Unfortunately I did not have a speedo but I knew my lap times and the speeds attainable on the straights.
Now stop going on about stupid go kart tracks and I don’t give a hoot about autobahn speeds. Any idiot can put his foot down in a straight line.
Any idiot can accelerate a motorbike up to 200 mph on a typical Go Kart track’s short straights in the knowledge that there isn’t a truck ahead travelling 150 mph slower.
As for the 3 litre Alfa I’m sure that couldn’t even reach 150 mph.
You didn’t have a speedo but you had a rev counter and you knew your gearing.
What were you riding a Moto GP bike and I don’t even think they’re geared for 200 mph.As opposed to a Isle of Man TT Superbike.
Let me know the next time you’re entered in the TT Superbikes it would be worth the trip.But even there at least you know there won’t be any trucks in your way to deal with.
So to sum up the law aren’t always as superior as they’d like to think they are unless they can show us any videos of them handling 160 mph + speeds on public roads.
