Marky-p:
Ah yes Biden, the most competent and accomplished President the U.S has ever had…
And he still beat Trump by a landslide.
JeffA:
Marky-p:
Ah yes Biden, the most competent and accomplished President the U.S has ever had…And he still beat Trump by a landslide.
Let’s be real here, ‘he’ wasn’t alone against Trump.
Trump was up against the majority of the fake news BS who railed against him for 4 years.
Up against Big Tech who censored conservatives, censored the Hunter Biden story just before the election and eventually booted Trump off their platforms.
Up against the entire democratic party who peddled the Russia hoax among other such nonsense.
And quite frankly up against the CCP designed covid which didn’t help anyone’s case at all, let alone Trump’s.
I know Trump has his flaws and I don’t agree with everything he says, but people didn’t vote for Biden because they loved Biden…they just thought life would return back to ‘normal’ without Trump back in - and lord knows they regret it so much.
And now Biden’s own party are trying to get rid of him because they don’t want him to run again.
One thing about U.S politics - it’s not boring!
Winseer:
You’re looking for the wrong yeukk…AMBERGRIS is where the money’s at…
Fisherman finds 'world's largest-ever’ blob of whale vomit worth £2.4m
Not “■■■”, not “Blood”, not “Guts” - but a composite of all three.
Hardened Whale Bile, Sick, and other digestive juices (not “Biscuits”) that have hardened into something literally worth it’s weight in Gold…
“Truth is stranger than Fiction”
That such stuff is used as MUSK in the perfume industry - keeps us right on-topic here, too…
Here’s a story today that pushes home the above post I made earlier…
Maybe Musk has taken on Twitter as the greatest and biggest “Loss Leader” in History - to prevent the professional Liberal Liars taking over the Internet and eventually the World?
On a chessboard, the center four squares are key:
in the World the Internet is key. You can position your pieces to attempt to monopolize the internet, but with so much utter crap on the web these days - it is easy for the average user to de-bunk “on the fly” as it were, rather than listen to the so-called “Guru Knowledge” of OTHERS to do it for them.
One positive effect thus far, is that Leftist EMPLOYEES are leaving Twitter in droves, before they are found out, and sacked sans-compensation should they try to stay as a “rear guard” on the “Inside track”…
Meanwhile, leftist USERS promised us that they’d also be leaving in droves, but hypocrites as they are - have chosen to keep their accounts running, as they have their entire lying lives on such accounts, and really don’t want to re-assemble a new life on this new “Threads” thing, which last time I looked - is just a scare story anyways.
We were not stupid enough to go to war with Russia in 1984, fortunately, but it seems that in THIS time - we want to court that possibility more closely…
OR we could just cancel NATO rather than each other, and get rid of this obsolete elephant in the room - once and for all.
“Restriction of true and accurate information” is the only thing keeping Western Citizens from realizing the truth about what is going on, these days.
We’re already in the world’s first Global CIVIL war, where the ones we’re told are our enemies - are not actually the ones attacking us already.
Elon Musk - is in great danger - if he choses the side of Humanity, and is a great danger to Humanity - if he knuckles under to deep state demands to be on their side as a fellow trillionaire and all.
Careful there Winseer, it is a recognised fact that most of the employees/former employees were politically ‘neutral’… 
Musk felt he could throw away 44 billion because it would give him power and influence rather than money. He hungers for power. Nothing to do with “free speech”.
lancpudn:
Elon has now changed the name of Twitter to X euractiv.com/section/platfo … n-twitter/
What a loser. X is about as that time they rebranded Royal mail some silly name - cost millions and then they changed it back.
Marky-p:
Careful there Winseer, it is a recognised fact that most of the employees/former employees were politically ‘neutral’…
The ones remaining - may well be “politically neutral” and may have been made to sign a document to that effect…
No more in-house moaning whenever Musk makes pontificating statements (hehehehehe) that offend delicate lefty’s ears…
In the BS news today, Musk makes “appaling accusation” that the Vaccine may well have harmed Bronny James (which it likely did, imo)
Put it another way, the argument needs to be DEBATED rather than brushed under the carpet alongside all that other stuff we got told was “Russian disinformation”…
Where the “Balanced Media” has gone wrong - is that they seem to have crowned themselves “The Official Opposition” because we have not had a proper “Opposition Party” for some years now… Have we?
You only need look at the way the BBC anchors acted during events like the Brexit vote coming in, and the exit poll for the 2019 election getting their collective jaws to hit the floor in dismay…
IF we are ever to have free speech, and an unbiased media ever again - we need to follow up accusations, with the proviso that “Libel” ALSO gets followed up to the max.
So if you print a story that so-and-so is a paedo, and it then turns out to be just a made-up story - the ACCUSER goes to jail. If the accuser does NOT go to jail then the ACCUSED needs to go to jail.
Why is this conservative notion of “Absolutes” not common sense at this point? If you cannot prove a case against someone - then you bloody well shouldn’t bring it, lest you be jailed yourself for Libel - Right?
Alex Jones is another good example… He had some solid proof that the victim’s families have received money to hold certain views, but this evicence was disallowed and without it - Jones couldn’t prove he was innocent of the charges laid against him…
Scenario: Your kid is killed in a drive-by shooting, that local government would like to keep the lid on.
Family are obviously upset, and want the death of their kid to count for something.
Local government pays over a large sum that their son didn’t actually die in a driveby shooting, but died in a massacre event instead.
Kid is still dead, Family are still upset - but Family are now rather richer, and a fake news story is now made real that helps defeat the NRA in some future court case…
Jones has proof of all of this, but “Evidence deemed inadmissible”. What else can this lead to? Diplomat staffer hits and runs UK citizen? - Off Scot-free, no compensation. Millions of people killed by Blood Clots? - Not one Medical person releasing a botched vaccine too early, with insufficient clinical trials - goes to jail due to “Immunity”. A hundred million people dying in July 2024 due to “some mystery new illness” - also "no one to blame, unless you want to blame someone like Trump, in which case we’ll print your story…
Politics, dear boy…
“Guilty until you’re not ALLOWED to prove your own innocence” there… A travesty of justice - if it had occured in any other peacetime decade, I reckon…
JeffA:
What a loser. X is about as that time they rebranded Royal mail some silly name - cost millions and then they changed it back.
I don’t think Musk was ever interested in the brand Twitter, just purging the potty-mouthed censoring lefties that used to infest it, both as company staff, and USERS - that have still to keep their promise to up sticks and leave the platform altogether…
Where are the Center Right Liberals in all this?
The lefties - never left, like they promised to…
The Conservatives - got purged 3 years back…
The “Middle Of Road” are the remaining staff…
The Center Lefts - are the media finding fault with Musk at every turn
…So we’ve yet to hear from the Center Rights then!
Tesla are inline for a bumper payday from legacy automakers this year with a $3.3billion windfall from selling them carbon credits & new Tesla owners will profit around the same sort of money from tax rebates & the inflation reduction act.
lancpudn:
Tesla are inline for a bumper payday from legacy automakers this year with a $3.3billion windfall from selling them carbon credits & new Tesla owners will profit around the same sort of money from tax rebates & the inflation reduction act.
The shareholders need something - seeing as Tesla dropped 71% in value since 2021 - think it’s still down 33% since muggins bought twitter for twice what it was worth.
The Institutional shareholders - are the only ones that count.
Small shareholders, and even Investment banks/Hedge Funds - come and go, and have not thus far - been able to dictate new policy upon the board that much.
If they DID swing such influence, then surely Musk would have gone the way of the Disney family by this point?
During the dot-com boom and bust 23 years ago, you just could not make people sell tech shares. People would go down and lose their shirts by not selling on the way down and all, but the mentality was all wrong:
People purcahsed shares UNTIL they went up, rather than tucked them away for the dividend income.
DIVIDENDS is what encourages people to “hold onto shares”. DotCom shares - typically paid NO dividends however, so money put into such stocks, was no better off really than putting it on the Aintree 3:45 at the end of the day.
Tesla too, pays no dividend - which suggests that those who’ve purchased shares - have done it as a PUNT rather than a serious investment.
You don’t go to AGMs with a “Punt”, just as you don’t turn up at the racetrack to watch every horse you back run it’s race… Right?
JeffA:
lancpudn:
Tesla are inline for a bumper payday from legacy automakers this year with a $3.3billion windfall from selling them carbon credits & new Tesla owners will profit around the same sort of money from tax rebates & the inflation reduction act.The shareholders need something - seeing as Tesla dropped 71% in value since 2021 - think it’s still down 33% since muggins bought twitter for twice what it was worth.
It’s worth about $14 per share, as I understand it. That’s all the assets minus the debts and liabilities.
The strong point though - is that Musk, having an autocratic nature, doesn’t get pushed around by the banks the way people like Trump and Farage do.
I also rather doubt that Musk has any one single major bank account, neither…
If your assets are spread far and wide enough, then if one of them does a “Farage” like move upon Musk, he’d probably use the money “booted out of that account” to short the stock in whatever errant bank were stupid enough to do such a thing… Musk has proven to date that he’s not backward in coming forward with the “Troll Finance” way he runs his firm.
Taking over Twitter - blindsided his enemies, since they didn’t think he’d be happy to set fire to a ton of money in acting in this manner…
Putin’s takeover of Ukraine - didn’t anticipate the Western governments jointly throwing their publics under the bus financially neither, and for a rather similar reason…
Notice that Putin is showing as much sign of “going bust” or “dying prematurely” as Musk right now…
Musk represents a softer target, should the deep state ever seriously consider taking them both down, which surely they must have on their would-be bucket list by this point eh?