Elon Musk

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JeffA:

lancpudn:
A lot of people seem to like them, The Tesla model Y is now the worlds best selling car in 2023 & that includes all legacy carmakers ICE models. theverge.com/2023/5/26/2373 … r-electric
It’s even kicked the Totyota Corolla off the number 1 spot which had been the worlds best selling car for years.
Oh they’ll be around for a long time yet, They’re the only manufacturer that’s making the biggest profit margins of every car they sell with $billions in cash sitting in the bank.
Ford & GM, it’s main rivals have publicly said they cant make a profit on EV’s until 2030-2035, Ford’s Blue Oval division is losing $60000 on every electric vehicle they sell :open_mouth: especially the Ford Mach-e. Chevy have lost money on every Bolt ev they made & have now discontinued it despite big order book.
autoevolution.com/news/ford … 14411.html
That’s why I said in another post months ago that the next electric car purchase made by the masses will most likely be Chinese including Tesla made models.

Have you ever been inside one? Like a tonka toy - all cheap plastic. I think when the proper car manufacturers move into electric cars Tesla will die out pretty quick.

Yes I’ve driven one which belongs to my nieces husband. I know what you mean but they’re all about lightweight & software today, Audi have found out to their cost that putting a traditional interior into their e-tron model adds weight & they cant get near Tesla’s range even with a bigger battery pack.

The Whitehouse has just thrown $billions of dollars at Tesla with $7500 federal tax credits for Tesla model 3 models which now makes them cheaper than a Toyota Camry ICE.
Tesla has also been making between $2-4billion every year since 2020 selling carbon credits to legacy auto who cant meet their emission targets, The upcoming Euro 7 will make them even more money, They’re rolling in free money without lifting a finger I think they’ll be around for quite a while as they’re gearing up to make the Tesla model 2 in China. They’re eyeing a new $4.8billion BEV plant in Spain to go with their German plant. electrek.co/2023/06/08/tesla-ru … ory-spain/

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I’ve only driven one a couple of times - really strange plastic door handles and EVERYTHING is on the computer - I was trying to find the windscreen wipers for 20 minutes - you have to scroll through the computer to turn them on.

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JeffA:
I’ve only driven one a couple of times - really strange plastic door handles and EVERYTHING is on the computer - I was trying to find the windscreen wipers for 20 minutes - you have to scroll through the computer to turn them on.

I agree with you on that, I’d rather have buttons for these functions, The new Tesla model S plaid doesn’t even have a indicator stalk on that yoke steering wheel :open_mouth: gizmodo.com.au/2021/01/tesl … d-model-s/

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lancpudn:

JeffA:
I’ve only driven one a couple of times - really strange plastic door handles and EVERYTHING is on the computer - I was trying to find the windscreen wipers for 20 minutes - you have to scroll through the computer to turn them on.

I agree with you on that, I’d rather have buttons for these functions, The new Tesla model S plaid doesn’t even have a indicator stalk on that yoke steering wheel :open_mouth: gizmodo.com.au/2021/01/tesl … d-model-s/

Switches cost money, and can physically break.
Before long (if not already) we could have single wire looms.
One cable that carries current, with each bulb, servo, component, etc having it`s own internal switch told on/off by a central computor.

No more complex wiring looms? No more DAF breakdowns!

Not saying it`s driver friendly at all, but it could save copper/cost/complexity of installation.

Being an ole ■■■■ I still like driving.
My younger aquaintances don`t all feel the same. They tend to like more automation and would prefer to rely on auto screens wipers, and I doubt they would miss the absence of any form of switch.

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I reckon Musk is developing an advanced new type of battery - one that doesn’t need re-charging from the electric mains.

“Capacitors” can be charged from the discharge of other batteries and cells.
Whilst the mains are still on, they can also be charged from Live Rails (making theft a lot easier) but not from overhead power lines, as they run on AC rather than DC. Capacitors can only be charged by DC, even if a rectifier is used.

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Winseer:
I reckon Musk is developing an advanced new type of battery - one that doesn’t need re-charging from the electric mains.

“Capacitors” can be charged from the discharge of other batteries and cells.
Whilst the mains are still on, they can also be charged from Live Rails (making theft a lot easier) but not from overhead power lines, as they run on AC rather than DC. Capacitors can only be charged by DC, even if a rectifier is used.

Maybe he has a new capacitor under development?
A double ended one, that will run (half and half) off AC current?

A game changer!
And that will mean twice the hourly rate on night shifts, unless one is on LTD without the agency screwing up the hourly rate, because of all them EE johnnies getting in the undemocratic unions, and driving on the wrong side of the Dartford tunnel, since the dollar was trashed by false-flag operations by the Ukrainian lizard people. undermining the starting price of the favourite at Epsom next Tuesday fortnight.

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Franglais:

Winseer:
I reckon Musk is developing an advanced new type of battery - one that doesn’t need re-charging from the electric mains.

“Capacitors” can be charged from the discharge of other batteries and cells.
Whilst the mains are still on, they can also be charged from Live Rails (making theft a lot easier) but not from overhead power lines, as they run on AC rather than DC. Capacitors can only be charged by DC, even if a rectifier is used.

Maybe he has a new capacitor under development?
A double ended one, that will run (half and half) off AC current?

A game changer!
And that will mean twice the hourly rate on night shifts, unless one is on LTD without the agency screwing up the hourly rate, because of all them EE johnnies getting in the undemocratic unions, and driving on the wrong side of the Dartford tunnel, since the dollar was trashed by false-flag operations by the Ukrainian lizard people. undermining the starting price of the favourite at Epsom next Tuesday fortnight.

The Biblical Character “Uzzah” reached out and touched the Ark of the Covenant to supposedly “stop it from falling off the ox-drawn cart” - but was struck down according to onlookers “by the power of God”.

I have a more plausible explanation involving Capacitance:

Take a long parchment scroll, make it very dry (as it would be in the Middle East anyways…) and then sandwich it between two layers of gold foil…

The capacitance of a box lifted away from being “Grounded”, surrounded by gold foil on the outside, wood and parchment sandwiched between layers of gold foil on the inside…

I reckon Uzzah got the same treatment upon touching the Ark as the Banana, Coconut, and other articles get in the linked video above…

The difference between “Conspiracy Theory” and “Science Fact” is only the understanding of any bystanders who, all too often fail to properly appraise what they’ve just “Witnessed”.

Thus, the time of “Witness-led Law Enforcement” is now surely OVER?

It cannot ever be right to produce hard, physical evidence and see a Billionaire accused of multiple foul crimes get off scot-free because such evidence is rendered “Inadmissible” by those who control what reaches court, and what does not.
Meanwhile, “Hearsay” or “Liar’s Evidence” now seems to reign supreme.
Very few people get charged with Perjury any longer, let alone convicted of it.

This means anyone with enough money can literally pay off the entire justice system to do whatever you want, convict innocents that accuse you of wrong doing, bear false witness (breaking the commandment) in doing so, and making it impossible to EVER put such a “Legal Oligarch” in jail.

Personally, I agree with Musk that some kind of “Financial Superhero” is needed to redress that balance.

I don’t know if Musk is for Good or Evil overall as of yet, as there’s evidence both ways, after all…

I will continue to watch with interest though. I don’t think he’s “Electric Jesus”, but his past actions already suggest that he doesn’t work for “HellBoy” neither…

Let’s see if he gives Trump a hand to ward off the concentrated ire of the Establishment being hurled at him nearly every day now…
The Lefties won’t be celebrating much, should the say soon come that Trump IS truly “Gone”, and they can get on with their mass culling unhindered all around the world.

Not surprised the East have taken a different path already… The only thing that’s changed is that the “East” are not the “World’s Villains” any longer. WE are in the West for permitting what is going on everywhere to continue…
"Detriment the 99% to appease the 1%.

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Winseer:
I don’t know if Musk is for Good or Evil overall as of yet, as there’s evidence both ways, after all…

I will continue to watch with interest though. I don’t think he’s “Electric Jesus”, but his past actions already suggest that he doesn’t work for “HellBoy” neither…

Let’s see if he gives Trump a hand to ward off the concentrated ire of the Establishment being hurled at him nearly every day now…

My observations and opinion lead me to believe that Elon is for the good of this world, of course others will say otherwise and I can respect that.

I don’t think he likes Trump much these days and he said he wouldn’t vote for him in 2024. He said he would definitely vote Republican though, and he likes Ron Desantis.

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Twitter now worth 15 billion after Musk paid 44 billion for it last year.

Musk is on the nuttiest end of the right-wing - even defended Trumpy having nuclear secrets in the toilet.

I don’t see Musk as this wonderful font of wisdom tho - he’s classroom intelligent but he’s also a conspiracy nut, an anti-vaccine whackjob and clueless about ordinary peoples lives - the only thing that matters to him is his own profits. That’s why he bans unions and wanted to force his staff to go to work during covid.

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JeffA:
Twitter now worth 15 billion after Musk paid 44 billion for it last year.

Musk is on the nuttiest end of the right-wing - even defended Trumpy having nuclear secrets in the toilet.

I don’t see Musk as this wonderful font of wisdom tho - he’s classroom intelligent but he’s also a conspiracy nut, an anti-vaccine whackjob and clueless about ordinary peoples lives - the only thing that matters to him is his own profits. That’s why he bans unions and wanted to force his staff to go to work during covid.

If I had a trillion in the bank, I wouldn’t miss 44billion - if it got my foot in the door to dominating the entire world!

I hope that his apparent support for DeSatan is merely a feint, to create the illusion that he is “against Trump” right upto the time where he switches side when it then becomes too late to stop the juggernaut that needs to be coming… The establishment don’t want Trump pulling out of the primaries too early - otherwise he’ll stand on an independent ticket, and split the GOP vote, which the Democrats will obviously like the sound of, but not people like the RINOS who are closely working with them, don’t forget.

Musk can afford to be anything he wants to be. If he becomes a man of vision on top of that - the more interesting policy rollouts - have yet to come!

Can’t say I’m impressed for his apparent recognition of “trans”, but if his pronous are indeed “Prosecute Fauci” - then that, at least - gets the thumbs-up from moi.

As for banning Unions - C’mon Man! - If you had a trillion, would YOU like to be taken to court, where it would cost you millions every time someone turned up late, and got docked, someone objected to you looking at them in a funny way, or like the recent case of the Tescos CEO - “Been busted outright” for mere HEARSAY accusations that would never stand up in court.
Large Companies - don’t want to spend billions defending every open-and-shut case in their favour - do they?
Look how easy it was to get rid of Boris Johnson recently… Where did his backbone go? It is a shame he thought more of Ukraine than he did of the Brexiteers that voted him in with a decent majority in 2019…

“Buying Twitter” for Musk - is like BP buying the Everlasting Lightbulb, or the Cold Fusion prototype generator, or whatever was in the building WTC 7…

“Keeps it off the market”.

If Musk intends to have a world monopoly of DC electric power before long - he would have achieved what Edison and Rockefeller could not.
All he’s got to do - is bide his time until the world’s AC power supply fails, and the mainly copper transmission lines carrying AC current - are melted out of existance…

Does he know what’s coming because he’s a “Visionary” - or is he actually going to have something to DO with such a world-changing catastrophe?

Natural = CME event on the Sun
Man-Made = EMP from multiple Nuclear devices being detonated in the high atmosphere over the oceans, with zero casualties at sea level, and zero witnesses except on radar screens around the world to boot…

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I dunno - Elon has been whining about how much it’s cost him and he’s firing everyone to try and save a few quid. Tesla shares tanked earlier this year when he tried buying Twitter with his shares too.

I’m not sure he’s a visionary at all - when you listen to him on twitter it’s like listening to a 12 year old bully you knew in school - no self-awareness, no ability to see into anyone elses problems - just total and complete self-absorbtion and a belief he’s the most important person on earth.

As Marlon Brando once told Val Kilmer “Never confuse the size of your talent with the size of your pay cheque”

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JeffA:
I dunno - Elon has been whining about how much it’s cost him and he’s firing everyone to try and save a few quid. Tesla shares tanked earlier this year when he tried buying Twitter with his shares too.

I’m not sure he’s a visionary at all - when you listen to him on twitter it’s like listening to a 12 year old bully you knew in school - no self-awareness, no ability to see into anyone elses problems - just total and complete self-absorbtion and a belief he’s the most important person on earth.

As Marlon Brando once told Val Kilmer “Never confuse the size of your talent with the size of your pay cheque”

I doubt if he needs to fire anyone to “save a few bucks” - but it’ll do as an excuse to fire the remaining wokesters hiding in what remains of the firm he bought…

Notice that the Lefties theatening to “close their twitter accounts” - still have not done so…
Sheesh! They can’t even tell the truth about their own truths!

Why bother electing any such person to power ever again - if all they are doing to do is insult the other side, and get nothing done on their very own watch?

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Because everyone knows who Musk happens to be, and roughly how much dosh he’s got - this proverbial “Most important person on Earth” - will be the wealthiest PRIVATE citizen whom no one knows has the cash at his (or her…) fingertips to move about at their lucid will…

Forget the Oldster billionaires, Forget the Government and “Contractor” based people.

I’m talking about someone who has the capital to “Bear Raid” any firm on Earth to bring it down.
Kinda makes what Musk did to Twitter look rather lame by comparison…

Right now, I’d like to see someone bring down Black Rock - before they strip everyone in this country of their own homes, for starters!

The market - doesn’t seem to be able to be manipulated to “enrich people”, but it DOES seem to be possible to “Bring entire nations down”, as was the case last year where we had paper cut-out Prime Minister Liz Truss stand up to quickly be knocked down, and Her late Majesty - die at the same time, to take our minds off that the bond market meltdown that now threatens to repossess every mortgage payer in the country…
The bond market meltdown was incoming since the West’s sanctions on Russia started - six months beforehand!

What should we do about Russia invading Ukraine?

Government who cares for it’s people:
“NOTHING as we cannot afford it, and I don’t want to risk the ire of China buying our bonds rather less if we dare to sanction Putin’s Russia.”

Government who doesn’t give a crap for ANY people:
“Let’s trash our economy before it has a chance to recover from our Scamdemic, let’s tell people that it’s our chosen enemy to blame, when that nicely rules out importing cheap fossil fuels from that source any longer, and then let’s lie to our own people forever - to cover it up. Opposition on board? Now we’ve got rid of Upstart Corbyn - hell yes!”

It will take a trillionaire to do battle against the machinations of the deep state.
So far, Musk has stopped the “Conservative Voice’s Purge” that silenced so many uplifting the Right of politics.
Taking down Twitter - has muffled, if not silenced the bile and venom of the Left since.

I don’t believe that Musk can sit on this “Liberal Centerist” fence forever, though.

Perhaps an “Ambush endorsement” of Trump is on the cards, after a long period of “feigning support” for De Santis, who’s hopelessly behind in the polls because they don’t have the Trumper support base that the Maga Republicans have…

It’s no good Trump getting back in, but as a “Zombie Second-Termer” with no control over either house.

Trump can only be effective in his second term with a decent majority in the Congress, and a large enough majority in the Senate to get past the remaining RINOs who have already stepped forward to stop Adam Schiff being prosecuted and heavily fined for his faux flag throwdown crimes against Trump…

Meanwhile, where are the real powers of the Democrat Party?

It must be nice for them to have Biden and Harris acting as “Incoming Ire Heatsinks” - eh?

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Hang on winseer, How can there be a deep state when Trump created the greatest economy, and country “in the history of the world” just 3 years ago?

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Since Tesla have stopped making Model S & Model X for right hand drive markets Elon said buyers in the UK orders have been cancelled & they can either have their money back or buy a left hand drive model instead. Some buyers have been waiting a long time & are pee’d off about it so Elon has come up with ‘The grabber’ for the UK market :grimacing: .

“Tesla has started to deliver new Model S and Model X vehicles in the UK with a grabbing stick after they forced buyers to get left-hand-drive vehicles.”
“The Reacher is a grabbing stick meant for drivers to be able to reach the passenger window, presumably to grab things like parking receipts and drive-thru items.” electrek.co/2023/06/30/tesla-gi … and-drive/

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JeffA:
Hang on winseer, How can there be a deep state when Trump created the greatest economy, and country “in the history of the world” just 3 years ago?

The Deep State - stopped Trump in his tracks, first by correcting the complacency of Hilary Clinton in 2016, and later by stopping Trump whilst he was President, as a continuation of stopping him from becoming President in the first place.

Thing is, to stop Trump as a private citizen using “Watergate Bugging Tactics” - was bad enough.
To try and stop Trump once he WAS President - is outright Treason - by no means the first such act of Treason against a sitting President (Eg. JFK)
It is likely the “Secrets” Trump is accused of “Stealing” include stuff related to JFK as well, btw
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Not being a “General” though, Trump has little concept of military Strategy that could have put down such an internal Coup-D’Etat.

He knew the rig was coming even prior to 2016, and knew about the “faux Tabulator” machines prior to 2020.
The unelected officials though? - Made sure that no such change was ever made to the so-called “100% integrity voting system” that was put out-of date as soon as any of these devices was connected to the internet, incidentally an illegal act in itself.

Trump cannot win in 2024 unless and until this bent infrastructure - is broken away. It has already been exposed, but such people that have already proved it - are denied presenting their huge evidence in open court for PUBLIC appraisal. Such people are then written off as “Election Deniers” which is like saying “Nazism works - because we’ve crushed all those in our own country that oppose it”.

The danger is that if Trump loses in 2024 by a small margin - there’s likely to be a civil war between Red States that backed Trump overwealmingly, and Blue States that are bleeding the rest of America dry with their Woke Taxes, and other satanic policy roll-outs, including open support for Ukrainian Azov “Nationalist Socialists” which they quite freely admit they are.

If Putin, on the other hand - were really this madman the Western narrative paints him to be - then surely he would have prodded his so-called (likely non-existant) “Nuclear Football” a few times already, don’t you think?

Putin’s weakness - is that he wants Ukraine intact, to be taken back into the fold as a Russian Possession.
Zelenky’s rabble - don’t have that weakness. If Putin’s forces capture a town, Ukrainian forces can ruthlessly bombard it to dust, whereas Putin’s forces actually being there, and OCCUPYING that territory - are hardly going to be shelling themselves, - are they?

“No concern for collateral damage” is a Communist argument, also associated with the Far Left.
“Lying about it after” - is a Center-Left “Lies Management” issue, of course.

What have we been told? “Putin invades bits of Ukraine, holds them as occupying forces, then shells his own people holding the areas - to make zelensky look bad.”

Yeh - Right!

Elon Musk - is no “Great” - all the while he doesn’t openly critique all deep-state machinations around the world, IF he is to be drawn on talking about “his opinion on…” even…

I suppose he can pretend to be a Liberal for a bit longer, but at this stage - there is as much chance of him being a “Great” of History as the Antichrist, imo.

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But Trump said he created the greatest economy in the “history of the world”, secured borders, deregulated everything (so more trains carrying poison can crash into small towns) and did everything he wanted to. So how did the deep state stop him exactly? You can’t say “I had the most successful presidency in the history of the world” and then say “The deep state stopped me doing anything”

I think you’re taking Trump at face value too much - Trump is the only one pushing for civil war if he loses. And how pathetic a man do you have to be to encourage the destruction of your country because you can’t win an election?

America looks in the best shape it’s been in years - Biden has already created 13.4 million jobs - that’s THREE TIMES as many jobs as the last 3 republican presidents created in their entire terms.

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JeffA:
But Trump said he created the greatest economy in the “history of the world”, secured borders, deregulated everything (so more trains carrying poison can crash into small towns) and did everything he wanted to. So how did the deep state stop him exactly? You can’t say “I had the most successful presidency in the history of the world” and then say “The deep state stopped me doing anything”

I think you’re taking Trump at face value too much - Trump is the only one pushing for civil war if he loses. And how pathetic a man do you have to be to encourage the destruction of your country because you can’t win an election?

America looks in the best shape it’s been in years - Biden has already created 13.4 million jobs - that’s THREE TIMES as many jobs as the last 3 republican presidents created in their entire terms.

When leaders of the Right in this country get elected, the first thing they do is “Shift Left” as Boris did, which was the last thing those who actually elected him wanted him to do, of course…

When Biden got “Elected”, the first thing he did was “Threaten the Right against protesting”… Double standard there? - Or outright hypocrisy?

When was the last Democrat President who decided to help out those who voted AGAINST him, when coming to power?
Oh yeh, it was Kennedy - and we all know what the Deep State ended up doing to THIS particular “Loose Cannon” - don’t we?

With the free vote now gone from the world - “Power” is now about “Getting it done”, rather than the former lies and spin carrying it all through by gravity and sloth of the electorate alone.

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As such, Trump is also the very first Majority opposition in any country on Earth, if you think about it… What a concept!

Oppositions are supposed to be the “second largest voting block” - not the disenfranchised majority itself.

It doesn’t matter if you believe or disbelieve anything in particular.
The number of Trumpers out there compared to the number of Biden voters in reality - is what makes the differnce from here on.

12 million “People that only exist on paper” - don’t get ANYTHING done, do they?
Dead people that may have voted Democrat - also won’t be getting much done in their graves, neither.

“Protestors” that are mainly on Welfare though? Plenty of them about to SEEM like a majority eh?

Illusions are Evil.

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Ah yes Biden, the most competent and accomplished President the U.S has ever had, that isn’t controlled by his handlers.

I really hope Biden gets re-elected…