On Thursday night a friend of mine(yes I have got 1 ) parked at Sarn services on the M4. He paid for his parking and in the morning went in for a wash and to get his flask filled. Only to be told by the woman at the counter that she could.nt fill flasks with hot water cos it was against health and safety. He pointed out to her that she spent most of her day filling mugs with hot tea and coffee " It dont matter she replied I still cant do it " He asked to see the manager only to be told she was the manager. He finally opted for cold water and put the kettle on his self .
This is a Welcome Break site , not very welcoming . anyone else had a similar experience?
I’ve had a layby salmonella snack shack refuse to fill my thermos mug, I was however allowed to empty contents of their plastic cup into mine 
lmao shoulda asked her if you could do it then lol
elf and safety are nuts but then again whens it every been right. soon we wont even be allowed to get in the truck without a ladder and a safety harness.
and to strap loads were gonna have to be strapped to a crane and fly about like spiderman lol.
There was a program on last night called the fun police, it was about h&s officers. There was a guy on their called Ed Friend he went into his garden and said “Don’t forget that an anagram of garden is danger” 
then he starts warning people about garden canes then he was moaning about acorns on the floor calling them dangerous ball bearings. Next he goes to a factory and tells grown men who pick up boxes everyday, how to pick up boxes. They are trying really hard not to laugh.
Presumably they are worried about the possibility that the flask may be defective in some way and could cause an injury to the assistant. It is probably the usual problem of having a simple “catch all” rule like:
“Hot water should only be dispensed into the containers we provide”
This would stop some idiot from putting boiling water into a glass for instance.
The compensation culture we have nowadays results in these rules which allow no application of common sense whatsoever.
Just look at the numerous attempts to sue McDonalds, Starbucks etc for serving hot coffee.
Last month I stopped on the A1/A19 to buy a Poppy. I asked for a pin as there were none in the box, only to be told ‘‘Due to Health and Safety, the people who supply the Poppies won’t supply the pins’’ !!!
I stopped at the Shell at Carlisle and they had loads, so I got one from there…
PLEASE PLEASE WHEN WILL IT ALL GET SENSIBLE AGAIN
strewth you can’t ■■■■ now unless you have a permit
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PLEASE PLEASE WHEN WILL IT ALL GET SENSIBLE AGAIN
strewth you can’t ■■■■ now unless you have a permit
I’m in trouble then
blame the people who claim compensation. Everyone is covering there arses they dont wanna be paying out thousands when someone injures themself. classic case of minority ruining it for the majority
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PLEASE PLEASE WHEN WILL IT ALL GET SENSIBLE AGAIN
strewth you can’t ■■■■ now unless you have a permit
Where can I get one? I hope you can back date it too!
Just watched “The Fun Police” on 4od.
If I ever met this guy, I would have to punch him out!!!
Bacon Sandwich:
Where can I get one? I hope you can back date it too!Just watched “The Fun Police” on 4od.
If I ever met this guy, I would have to punch him out!!!
I dunno how his wife puts up with him
The vending machines which have been installed on the channel tunnel trains, to be used at weekends when they don’t have the trolley dollies in action, dispense only lukewarm drinks. The Chef du Train told us the other Saturday it is because the H&S nutters won’t allow them to use hot water.
Even after the recent fire we can still take our chances in carriages which do not have all 4 doors working, so limiting escape options in another fire incident, but we can’t enjoy a hot drink while doing so. I’m not seeing the logic here. 
Hang on, may be they know there could be panic if exits are limited so don’t want people getting scalded in a crush. I mean being scalded must be worse than being trapped and choking to death on smoke or roasted alive by a 1000 degree inferno. 
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PLEASE PLEASE WHEN WILL IT ALL GET SENSIBLE AGAIN
strewth you can’t ■■■■ now unless you have a permit
you don’t want to be doing that at Felixstowe docks, they will shut the place cos it’s too windy
Health and Safety is important, we don’t really want to work in Victorian conditions, getting badly injured by machines or suffering years later because we are exposed to chemicals.
But most of this health and safety stuff has very little to do with anybodys health or safety, but it’s all about money and justifying peoples wages.
The train catches fire every 10 years or so, but to fix a flawed design in the carriages would cost millions, so we don’t touch it. However every year thousands of people claim for stupid injuries, (that a few years ago they would of just shrugged of as thier own stupidity) but as not letting the water get to hot costs very little, probably even save money, so it’s easy.
In the canteen at the bridgewater paper mill the H&S rep stopped the girls doing fried eggs because of the danger from fat burns 
But all was well after a risk assesment took place a couple of weeks later…
blame the people who claim compensation. Everyone is covering there arses they dont wanna be paying out thousands when someone injures themself. classic case of minority ruining it for the majority
So , going by your argument I shouldn’t claim compo for a broken leg which occurred at work owing to falling down a broken kerb, which I coudn’t see because there were no lights?
If what you mean is frivolous claims then I will agree with you.
I hope Ed Friend doesn’t use electricity in his home. An anagram of his name is “Fried end”.
What a sweet irony that would be.
Victorian conditions?
OK, so maybe there is a little logic there, but I have heard that we no longer send children up chimneys, and the workhouses closed a while back.
Seriously, it ALL comes down to commonsense. If the floor is icy, try not to walk on it, or be careful when you have to. If you spill oil, clean it up and be careful, If you need to move something heavy then lift it and be careful.
Notice a common thread to this?
It comes down to the individual being careful. Some goon sat in an office on the 10th floor may think to himself “Cleaning these windows would be really dangerous so we had best put legislation in place to sort that.”
The funny thing is that the people who clean the windows know it is dangerous already. They don’t need to be told it by some fat little toad.
The world has gone mad!
bobthedog:
Victorian conditions?OK, so maybe there is a little logic there, but I have heard that we no longer send children up chimneys, and the workhouses closed a while back.
Seriously, it ALL comes down to commonsense. If the floor is icy, try not to walk on it, or be careful when you have to. If you spill oil, clean it up and be careful, If you need to move something heavy then lift it and be careful.
Notice a common thread to this?
It comes down to the individual being careful. Some goon sat in an office on the 10th floor may think to himself “Cleaning these windows would be really dangerous so we had best put legislation in place to sort that.”
The funny thing is that the people who clean the windows know it is dangerous already. They don’t need to be told it by some fat little toad.
The world has gone mad!
whats this common sense thing where can i buy it?
is it the same as disapline and respect?
is it bottle or can form?
and does it have a notice on it to tell me what it is and what i should do with it?
bubsy06:
Next he goes to a factory and tells grown men who pick up boxes everyday, how to pick up boxes. They are trying really hard not to laugh.
I saw it too - they didn’t try very hard either
I bet Ed is a hit at parties - all those bottles that someone might drink, cocktail sticks that could cause serious injury, food you might choke on, loud music to make you deaf, flashing lights to cause epileptic fits, people dancing without hi-viz and safety dancing shoes, no qualified first aiders etc etc…
It is all covering someone’s backside - you can’t go near the trailer to see what the forky is putting on the top deck because he might run over you, but the fact that you have 8 tonnes on the top and only 2 on the bottom doesn’t matter; if it tips over it will be on the road - the driver’s problem, not theirs 
If you make rules people will find a way to break them, if you rely on common sense most people will use it.