In today’s newspaper it was suggested that soon legislation will be proposed to enable these to be ridden on the public roads in cycle lanes.
What could possibly go wrong?
Gidders:
In today’s newspaper it was suggested that soon legislation will be proposed to enable these to be ridden on the public roads in cycle lanes.
What could possibly go wrong?
Nothing will go wrong because they will be licenced, tested and insured- then I woke up from the dream [emoji855] God help us
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They’re already used but not in cycle lanes so don’t see legislation making any difference.
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I understood it to mean that these scooters will be prohibited from footpaths,as bicycles are supposed to be.
Gidders:
I understood it to mean that these scooters will be prohibited from footpaths,as bicycles are supposed to be.
Don’t worry: the road tax on bikes and scooters will pay for the extra manpower to enforce the safety regulations. Because of this there will be no need to tax the insurance that will be compulsory on all bikes and scooters.
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But then, if a wee bit of taxpayers money was spent on allowing these vehicles maybe some short distance commuters would give up their cars, freeing road and parking places for essential users?
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Franglais:
Gidders:
I understood it to mean that these scooters will be prohibited from footpaths,as bicycles are supposed to be.Don’t worry: the road tax on bikes and scooters will pay for the extra manpower to enforce the safety regulations. Because of this there will be no need to tax the insurance that will be compulsory on all bikes and scooters.
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But then, if a wee bit of taxpayers money was spent on allowing these vehicles maybe some short distance commuters would give up their cars, freeing road and parking places for essential users?
No such thing as “road tax”, it was abolished in the 30s by Churchill. The roads are paid for by everybody out of general taxation. Motor vehicles pay VED which is a tax on vehicle emissions, if bikes/e scooters were made to pay it, it would be a totally pointless exercise as their bill would come to £0 just like any zero emission vehicle.
Any two wheeled mode of transport that encourages people out of cars for short journeys & commutes is a positive thing.
rob22888:
Franglais:
Gidders:
I understood it to mean that these scooters will be prohibited from footpaths,as bicycles are supposed to be.Don’t worry: the road tax on bikes and scooters will pay for the extra manpower to enforce the safety regulations. Because of this there will be no need to tax the insurance that will be compulsory on all bikes and scooters.
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But then, if a wee bit of taxpayers money was spent on allowing these vehicles maybe some short distance commuters would give up their cars, freeing road and parking places for essential users?No such thing as “road tax”, it was abolished in the 30s by Churchill. The roads are paid for by everybody out of general taxation. Motor vehicles pay VED which is a tax on vehicle emissions, if bikes/e scooters were made to pay it, it would be a totally pointless exercise as their bill would come to £0 just like any zero emission vehicle.
Any two wheeled mode of transport that encourages people out of cars for short journeys & commutes is a positive thing.
Yep. We may largely agree.
My post wasn’t 100% serious…
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Gidders:
In today’s newspaper it was suggested that soon legislation will be proposed to enable these to be ridden on the public roads in cycle lanes.
What could possibly go wrong?
Emily Hartridge can tell you, oh wait no she can’t without a clairvoyant.
The issue as things stand is that e-scooters are not classed as “motor vehicles” (and so are not subject to all the regs as regards insurance, licensing, testing, Con & Use etc) because they are not “constructed or adapted for use on roads” but neither are they classed as “electrically assisted pedal cycles” (no pedals…). As a result, they cannot legally be used on roads at all. Personally I think it would be a good idea to change the definition of an Electrically Assisted Pedal Cycle (retaining the 14mph limit on motor assistance) to include e-scooters - but they would of course also require all the other stuff such as brakes, lights, reflectors etc, as well as being subject to the same basic construction/safety standards as a pushbike sold for use on the road…
Conor:
Gidders:
In today’s newspaper it was suggested that soon legislation will be proposed to enable these to be ridden on the public roads in cycle lanes.
What could possibly go wrong?Emily Hartridge can tell you, oh wait no she can’t without a clairvoyant.
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excellent wit there old bean.
the lemmings will no doubt buy them in droves,then illegally use as a different mode of mobile organ donor transport right up until the point they get squashed for being stupid enough to ride them in close proximity to cars and trucks.
scooters or bikes,same jockey,different horse.
I would like to see them classed similar to electric bicycles . If more people could do the first and final mile to where ever they have to be it would free up a lot of road space.
I’ve encountered a few lately in London there more dangerous than pedal bikes. They fast and just appear from noware.
I may be wrong but I thought they were illegal here. So obvious there’s been a u turn
They are not legal on the road or pavement. As they fold it would be possible to take them on a train or bus and so reducing congestion caused by cars being parked for the working day.
I wonder if I could use one for 5 miles on the A66 to get home from work at 4 in the morning ?
Trukkertone:
I wonder if I could use one for 5 miles on the A66 to get home from work at 4 in the morning ?
Give it a go, and let us know how it goes. 
I have a bike, ok I don’t use it as much as I should or would like to, but why not split the pavements in two on major towns and cities that have not yet catered for bikes, to make them half for pedestrians, half for bikes (and now these scooters)
It could be phased in gradually to keep costs down.
We hear of unnecessary work being done by councils so that their next years budget allowance ain’t reduced, so here’s a real reason and scheme to spend it on.
This country seems largely to be anti cycle and cyclist (as well as this forum 
) ok, I know the arrogant lycra clad d/heads don’t do themselves any favours of endearment, but we should have a system more like Holland, where bikes, and now e.scooters are looked upon as a good alternative, and both sets of road users, cyclists and motorists/truckers manage well side by side.
robroy:
why not split the pavements in two on major towns and cities that have not yet catered for bikes, to make them half for pedestrians, half for bikes (and now these scooters)
There are some practical issues. First one being that if you think cyclists take up too much of your road by riding in groups, two (or more) abreast, wait until you try sharing a foot/cycleway with groups of peds! At least cyclists on the road (usually) keep to the left…
Another issue is that if you were using a bike as transport - ie to actually travel from one place to another in town, would you be happy to stop and wait to cross every single side road? The potential for carnage as peds wander in/out of shops etc across the paths of cyclists would also be immense IMO.
There is a place for shared use pathways, but in town isn’t really one of them.
This country seems largely to be anti cycle and cyclist (as well as this forum
Totally agree with that.
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I’ve just seen a child(5 or 6 years?)hurtle past my front window in a blur on what looked like a motorised seat,his backside being no more than 3 or 4 inches from the footpath followed 20 yards behind by proud dad.I’ve never seen a machine like this before but it’s going to cut a lot of people off at the ankles I would have said.