Yeh so have I, and they load them in twos so you could not strap every one anyway unless they loaded them singly.
What is this thing about “strapping every other pallet”?
Do the pallets you don’t strap not fall off? Either a pallet is secured or it isn’t.
Harry Monk:
What is this thing about “strapping every other pallet”?Do the pallets you don’t strap not fall off? Either a pallet is secured or it isn’t.
To stop them going backwards. They aren’t going anywhere sideways
slowlane:
This is another great example of the petty, box ticking crap that’s dragging this whole country, let alone this industry, down. A trailer full of loo roll couldn’t break out of a non-XL trailer.
You’re totally correct there.
I utterly despise the spineless weasels who think up the guff, enforce it and believe it.
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The encouraging thing here is not one of you has said yeah the DVSA are correct, every single pallet of tissue should have been strapped here. Because I don’t strap it like he wanted it, I’ve seen no other driver ever strap it like he wanted it. Majority it’s X at the back and that’s it.
Harry Monk:
What is this thing about “strapping every other pallet”?Do the pallets you don’t strap not fall off? Either a pallet is secured or it isn’t.
As Rob pointed out mate. Forkies load with double forks.
At our place we have an ex eu trailer with xl curtains but not the body and all the side slats.
I believe this is deemed suitable because of a few pieces of plywood?
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El Deano:
At our place we have an ex eu trailer with xl curtains but not the body and all the side slats.I believe this is deemed suitable because of a few pieces of plywood?
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That’s a point, I have not pulled Euroliners, or tilts for about 10 years. So what do their rules say about carrying light loads like pallets of cardboard in a Euroliner or tilt in the UK.
Surely the side boards would negate the so called ‘‘need’’ for fully strapping.
Or are these boards and side planks just conveniently ignored by these pricks to the point where you still have to internally strap them to avoid getting fined just to humour them . 
Internals on every stack. Without straps you only need to take a corner or roundabout just a bit too quick and you’ve possibly got a stack or two leaning against the curtain which when you open that curtain could end up falling off the trailer. Given the driver cross strapped every other one with a strap then he thought it needed strapping. You don’t cross strap internals on something unless you’re really worried about it moving or you are strapping a particularly narrow load.
robroy:
So what do their rules say about carrying light loads like pallets of cardboard in a Euroliner or tilt in the UK.
Surely the side boards would negate the so called ‘‘need’’ for fully strapping.
Or are these boards and side planks just conveniently ignored by these pricks to the point where you still have to internally strap them to avoid getting fined just to humour them .
Having pulled plenty of pallets of cardboard for a box manufacturer in Hull and out of Inspirepac in Chesterfield there’s no way I’d not strap that because the stacks are as unstable as hell. Side boards stop it coming out whilst you’re driving down the road but again, they don’t stop the pallets falling out, and in the case of these trailers onto you, when you take the boards out.
Conor:
Internals on every stack. Without straps you only need to take a corner or roundabout just a bit too quick and you’ve possibly got a stack or two leaning against the curtain which when you open that curtain could end up falling off the trailer. Given the driver cross strapped every other one with a strap then he thought it needed strapping. You don’t cross strap internals on something unless you’re really worried about it moving or you are strapping a particularly narrow load.robroy:
So what do their rules say about carrying light loads like pallets of cardboard in a Euroliner or tilt in the UK.
Surely the side boards would negate the so called ‘‘need’’ for fully strapping.
Or are these boards and side planks just conveniently ignored by these pricks to the point where you still have to internally strap them to avoid getting fined just to humour them .Having pulled plenty of pallets of cardboard for a box manufacturer in Hull and out of Inspirepac in Chesterfield there’s no way I’d not strap that because the stacks are as unstable as hell. Side boards stop it coming out whilst you’re driving down the road but again, they don’t stop the pallets falling out, and in the case of these trailers onto you, when you take the boards out.
Yeh ok, I can see why you would strap double stacked pallets of cardboard with internals, and I do so myself like I said.
But unless I’m mistaken they still require you to strap single pallets of shrink wrapped cardboard, of which I often carry, as maybe part of a previous order or part load. (with my present ‘‘70s style company’’ 
) …I was more referring to that load type, rather than a full load of double stacked pallets.
mdourish:
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Chip loads in chipliners to be strapped down.
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Adonis.:
mdourish:
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Chip loads in chipliners to be strapped down.
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Milk in tanks to be strapped down. And who will be responsible for the load when trucks become automated
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Rowley010:
The encouraging thing here is not one of you has said yeah the DVSA are correct, every single pallet of tissue should have been strapped here. Because I don’t strap it like he wanted it, I’ve seen no other driver ever strap it like he wanted it. Majority it’s X at the back and that’s it.
this should be fun , well mr vosa officer you’ve not got a zb clue , and how do I know that the hordes on truck net say so
point vosa to this thread when you get pulled rowley , I’m sure they’ll take on board what the so called experts are saying , they’ve not got a ■■■■■■■ clue 
mdourish:
Adonis.:
mdourish:
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Chip loads in chipliners to be strapped down.
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Milk in tanks to be strapped down. And who will be responsible for the load when trucks become automated
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Hanging to be strapped to the floor.
Trucks won’t be automated so it’ll still be the driver because they’ll still be driving it.
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Always strap down the cargo for peace of mind
Thanks. That’s clarified that then mum.
the maoster:
Thanks. That’s clarified that then mum.
Just about choked on my cornflakes there
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You might as well have a flat trailer at least you know what you have to do
Its the biggest load of ■■■■■■■■ to have that much straps on toilet rolls where are they going to move to, it don’t make sense
What gets me about DVSA is that they give it the big one talking about how the curtainsider load security rules are there for public safety etc., yet they don’t actually seem to enforce them properly.
This is a direct quote from the book
Light goods
You can secure goods or unstacked pallets that weigh less than 400kg per item:using buckle straps that hang from the roof of the body structure
with inner curtains - see light palletised goods
Treat goods and pallets over 400kg - and stacked pallets if the combined weight of the stack is more than 400kg - as heavy goods.Heavy goods
Secure heavy goods that weigh more than 400kg per item or pallet with:lashing
load-rated nets
tarpaulins with integral straps
Whatever method you use, it must be able to restrain half the weight of the load to the side and rear, and the full weight forward.This is the minimum standard for normal road driving.
So, by rights if you don’t have an XL trailer (which only counts for anything if you load is a full load) any heavy load should be getting secured down to the trailer bed. However, DVSA officers seem quite satisfied for us to just wing it with crappy internal roof straps which we all know do nothing for a heavy load & seemingly it’s not even required for every pallet on the trailer … surely it either needs ratchet strapping/netting or it doesn’t. By this logic, you could drive down the road with 28t of Ale held in with roof straps and your curtains tied back, seeing as they apparently only offer weather protection 
Add to this the sheer amount of sites that make absolutely no attempt to facilitate the textbook securing of loads either through their packaging or health and safety rules, surely us drivers should get some assistance on this matter in the form of consignors having to take some responsibility for what leaves their site.