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I see only one lane in either direction, but because there is a central reservation I believe that the description “dual carriageway” is correct. Had a (amicable) squabble with a mate, who says it can’t be a DC unless two or more lanes on both sides. Thoughts?
Doesn’t matter about the technical, he was heading towards oncoming traffic!
A dual carriageway is named as such by virtue of having a physical divide between the oncoming vehicles. It matters not how many or how few lanes it has, the physical divider is the key.
Road signs would say its a dual carraigeway, if there are no road signs, it isn’t one.
I see only one lane in either direction, but because there is a central reservation I believe that the description “dual carriageway” is correct. Had a (amicable) squabble with a mate, who says it can’t be a DC unless two or more lanes on both sides. Thoughts?
Dual carriageways
A dual carriageway is a road which has a central reservation to separate the carriageways.
No mention of how many lanes and you can have 4 lane single carriageways.
There is another Single Lane dual carriageway in Norfolk in a place called Scottow, it is a couple of narrow country lanes with a bank and trees between them. It’s all been marked up properly as a dual carriageway.
does anyone know exactly where this happened, I would like to have a look at it on streetview; it would appear the overtake was left too late and the 4x4er got inadvertently funnelled into the wrong carriageway. Bad impatient driving would seem the obvious culprit but is the road layout / signage clear enough.
Bluey Circles:
does anyone know exactly where this happened, I would like to have a look at it on streetview; it would appear the overtake was left too late and the 4x4er got inadvertently funnelled into the wrong carriageway. Bad impatient driving would seem the obvious culprit but is the road layout / signage clear enough.
The signage is fine. It warns you in plenty of time that is still a single carriage road.
Bluey Circles:
does anyone know exactly where this happened, I would like to have a look at it on streetview; it would appear the overtake was left too late and the 4x4er got inadvertently funnelled into the wrong carriageway. Bad impatient driving would seem the obvious culprit but is the road layout / signage clear enough.
Terrington St Clement, according to the rag.
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Bluey Circles:
does anyone know exactly where this happened, I would like to have a look at it on streetview; it would appear the overtake was left too late and the 4x4er got inadvertently funnelled into the wrong carriageway. Bad impatient driving would seem the obvious culprit but is the road layout / signage clear enough.Terrington St Clement, according to the rag.
If I had been a bit more observant I would have seen the co-ordinates on the vid
googlle streetview
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Long sweeping left hand bend with hazard lines, the road then begins to straighten with the hazard lines replaced with short broken lines, after 250m the “Single file warning sign appears” then in a further 120m the dual section begins. I also don’t see on the approach any of those keep left arrows on the road.
I am not trying to excuse the driver, but that is a poorly marked begining to a dual section
Notorious accident blackspot, a fatality there this week, and a young couple killed on xmas day a few years ago.
The road is “dualled” there to provide a refuge in the center of the A17 for vehicles using the staggered crossroad.
Agency
Simple explanation of a DUAL is where the opposing traffic is separated by something other than paint or cones
The explanation of a DUEL is where some numpty drives the wrong way 
ROG:
Simple explanation of a DUAL is where the opposing traffic is separated by something other than paint or conesThe explanation of a DUEL is where some numpty drives the wrong way
That made me laugh, very good 
4x4 driver contravened this sign, which gives an order: 
Bluey Circles:
Bad impatient driving would seem the obvious culprit but is the road layout / signage clear enough.
Poor signage or not, the very least you should do when overtaking is look at the road ahead. ■■■■ poor driving, nothing more nothing less.
Was told by a traffic plod that if you can roll a ball from the near side kerb to the opposite near side kerb unrestricted it’s a single cartiegways .if it hits a kerb or barrier first it’s a duel no matter how many lanes
Can’t remember the thread but I fired this question off to the authorities a while back and posted the reply on here.
They said as long as there was some kind of divide it was classed as a dual carriageway. Even if it was just a strip of grass.
As everyone else has said, dual - meaning two - refers to the number of carriageways. So any form of physical central reservation (kerb, grass or barrier) means there is more than one carriageway.
The number if lanes is irrelevant, as a dual carriageway can have one lane in each direction or it could have six.
And a single carriageway can be three four or, in the case of the Aston Expressway, seven lanes wide.
The road in question on the A17 is a fairly common design known as “single lane dualling” which is to provide a protected central refuge for right turning traffic.