She`s drove from Huddersfield to Leeds without once looking in her mirrors?
Should be resitting the driving test.People like her never get better.Enough idiots on the road already.
Not sure whether wing mirrors are even a legal requirement on cars with an internal rear view mirror. I am not saying that they are not necessary, many older cars did not have them but the law may well have changed.
If that car has automatic folding in mirrors which are faulty then that is her only get out but if she did not then use extra looks to compensate then that could be deemed a DWDCAT
It looks like she will be reduced to a provisional learner again in which case she will have to do all the theory and practical tests again
att:
In my opinion she should be prosecuted.
It is only when people realise they have a responsibility to other road users and get fined or lose a privilidge as a result for not taking the responsibility, that driving standards will improve…And christ knows, they need to.
Driving is not a right, nor is it a secondary occupation when in vehicle.If she had wanted to change lanes with a motorcycle at the side of her, she could have killed him/her…Responsible driving is desperately required in this country.
Yep, Stupid is as stupid does.
If this doesn’t result in a ban, I bet her next insurance will be too high to made driving an option, SP and a CD.
MADBAZ:
TBH I think it’s safer for her not to be on the road.
Sounds as if it might be safer for everyone else as well…
commonrail:
i agree with the above 2 posts, if shes already got 3 points i would say shes gonna be banned.
IF the facts are correct and it is proven that she did drive without D C & A, it sounds like she may have not reconsidered her driving standards after gaining the 1st 3 points, and taking a more considerate approach to her driving standards to prevent herself getting a further prosecution during the 2 year probationary period especially that as stated she needs her driving licence & car for getting to work.
Taking the bus for a couple of years will be a somber reminder of the money she threw away, and the money its gonna cost her in the future all because she`s (aledgedly) driven like a C NUT during her probationary period
EastAnglianTrucker:
MADBAZ:
TBH I think it’s safer for her not to be on the road.Sounds as if it might be safer for everyone else as well…
Think of all those children who will be able to sleep safely with her off the road
I always thought that with “Due Care and Attention” the onus of proof was on the driver.
Yes, driving standards have fallen off the end of a cliff.
The quantity of “Bosnian Motorbikes” seems to have gone up exponentially and (In Lincoln anyway) jumping red lights together with impatient driving styles.
As much as some people hate Plod I think most of these problems is down to officers being “accounted” out of jobs and replaced by scameras
the wind blew them in your worship, i was fully aware of my surroundings, i adjusted my speed to 50mph, so that other vehicles would pass me, rather than me pulling out without the use of my door mirror, this your worship would have been driving without due care, i wanted to find a safe place to pull over to reset my mirror, the hard shoulder isn’t a safe place, however, i was pulled over by the police before i had a chance to reset my mirrors.
Throw this at her
10-08:
Throw this at her
Love to, but I think she’ll throw it back with a brick attached 
She has a little button on the door which she presses to un/fold them. I’ve had a look on the interweb, but I can’t see anything in legal speak related to folding mirrors, the only references are to older cars which must have at least 2 usable mirrors and newer cars mirrors basically says if they are fitted they must be working. There is some other stuff but I think she’s screwed.
She’s been up tonight crying (oh bloody hum), although I sympathise (to a point) with the problems a lack of car will create for her, I did say that she could benefit from some extra tuition 
, that went down like a lead balloon, more so cos our lass wouldn’t back me up 
and now neither of them are talking to me, ah well a quiet night for me 
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I cant believe how many drivers here are slagging her off, give the girl a chance, anyway, as has already been stated, i too believe that you dont need to have wing/door mirrors on your car, but you do need an interior mirror,or its one or the other, certainly get some legal advice, but that used to be the law, and if it hasnt changed, theres her defence.
Even so, i would certainly argue the case that to get nicked for dangerous driving/or without due care/ is an absolute joke because of 2 mirrors folded in.
but good luck to her.
truckyboy:
I cant believe how many drivers here are slagging her off, give the girl a chance, anyway, as has already been stated, i too believe that you dont need to have wing/door mirrors on your car, but you do need an interior mirror,or its one or the other, certainly get some legal advice, but that used to be the law, and if it hasnt changed, theres her defence.
Even so, i would certainly argue the case that to get nicked for dangerous driving/or without due care/ is an absolute joke because of 2 mirrors folded in.
but good luck to her.
So what would you say if she wiped a motorcyclist out on the motorway because she never seen them due to her mirrors being folded in■■? It wouldn’t be a joke then!
truckyboy:
i too believe that you dont need to have wing/door mirrors on your car, but you do need an interior mirror,or its one or the other, certainly get some legal advice, but that used to be the law, and if it hasnt changed, theres her defence.
This, from the MOT examiners check list for cars…
Obligatory mirrors.
An exterior mirror fitted to the offside (right-hand side when seated in the driver’s seat).
An exterior mirror fitted to the nearside (left-hand side when seated in the driver’s seat).
An interior mirror.
Regards,
Nick.
Many older cars didn’t have a mirror on the passenger side. I remember my mums Metro was like that.
I have also seen cars on narrow country lanes with the mirrors folded in to avoid damage, although I have never felt the need to personally, but thats the reason I was given when I asked someone why they did it. I can see no reason to have them folded in anywhere near a main road or motorway.
truckyboy:
I cant believe how many drivers here are slagging her off, give the girl a chance, anyway, as has already been stated, i too believe that you dont need to have wing/door mirrors on your car, but you do need an interior mirror,or its one or the other, certainly get some legal advice, but that used to be the law, and if it hasnt changed, theres her defence.
Even so, i would certainly argue the case that to get nicked for dangerous driving/or without due care/ is an absolute joke because of 2 mirrors folded in.
but good luck to her.
So…I take it from that remark, that you are entirely happy with the driving standards on Britains roads at present?
Sounds like there is a bitmore to it, as she she still had an interior mirror, so it seems what they are saying is that if you have a car where the mirrors fold in when you and then pack up you have to get the car recovered, what a load of horlicks.
Law states must have 2 mirrors. If one of those is an interior mirror then the other must be offside.
If factory fitted with a nearside mirror then it too must be working. i.e. If n/s mirror has been knocked off you can’t just leave it.
If fitted, must work, unlike front fog lights.
As said, the lass would benefit from an advanced driving course which would, amongst other things, encourage her to walk right around her car looking for anything out of place before getting in to drive.
Well you learn something new everyday. A car Manufactured after 1978 must have two mirrors one interior one offside. Having said that i still find it unlikley that they would prosecute for that alone, a ticking of yes and correct the situation,unless its a matter of endangering other road users. unsafe pullinng out etc. How bizzare.
I dont see the point that its anything to do with what the law says regarding mirrors.
What I see is someone who has driven a considerable distance and not noticed her mirrors are folded in.
This tells me that she has not once looked in her mirrors and noticed that they were folded in which means that she NEVER looks in her mirrors and thus is usually unaware of whats happening round about her. If they are electrically operated from inside the car shes not got a leg to stand on and nor should she have.
ncooper:
truckyboy:
i too believe that you dont need to have wing/door mirrors on your car, but you do need an interior mirror,or its one or the other, certainly get some legal advice, but that used to be the law, and if it hasnt changed, theres her defence.This, from the MOT examiners check list for cars…
Obligatory mirrors.
An exterior mirror fitted to the offside (right-hand side when seated in the driver’s seat).
An exterior mirror fitted to the nearside (left-hand side when seated in the driver’s seat).
An interior mirror.Regards,
Nick.
You only need two “rear vision devices” on a car (if registered on or after 1 Aug 1978) for an MOT pass, one of which must show the view down the off-side of the vehicle though the other can show either an ‘interior/rear-view’ or near-side view. It doesn’t have to be a mirror, a camera and suitable display is also acceptable.
If registered before 1 Aug 1978, then only one “rear vision device” is required, and it can be in any of the 3 acceptable positions (i.e. near-side, off-side or rear-view).
Source: Section 8.1 of the 2012 MOT Inspection Manual sitting on my desk.