damoq:
Is there not something that makes it illegal for your boss to give you a schedule that’s impossible to achieve without you having to break the law?
Only if your pressured to do it without breaks. If its given with the understanding you fit a break in where required then its ok is my understanding.
It’s my truck to use when at work no one else uses it when I finish it’s loaded for me the next day.I do net get any extra payment for working over 48hrs.in fact my 45 min breaks are unpaid.
It’s hard to explain if I’m to work a 10.25 hr day i would like the 45 min break included into that 10.25 hr day then when this is removed at the end of the week it should equate to a 48hr week.
I’ve no problem working longer hours as if we go over the 48 hrs in any week we get time of when we get near the end of our 26 week period.all I’m I’m asking is should the break be included in the overall daily duty.It has nothing whats so ever to do with pay as I’ve said I’m paid very well for the job I’m doing and happy with my salary as its £6000 more than my last job.
Am I wrong in asking him to add it into my daily schedule for me to manage as and when I need to take it.
Does your employment contract state that you get paid for breaks?
Breaks are unpaid.
If you get the time off at the end of the reference period then forget about it.
johnthemilk:
We have a new transport person and he insist on giving us our daily work with no breaks added in.So if we are to work an 10.5hr day we then have to manage our own breaks into this making it an11.25hr day.
What I’m trying to say is should breaks be added to your daily duty so that you can manage them properly.Breaks are unpaid.
What difference does it make ?
If the boss or you adds in the breaks then you still end up with the same length of shift for the same pay
johnthemilk:
It’s hard to explain if I’m to work a 10.25 hr day i would like the 45 min break included into that 10.25 hr day
If you’re to finish 10 hrs & 15 mins after you start then of course there needs to be provision in your schedule for breaks (I’d prefer two 30 minute breaks, 1 for 1WTD & 1 for driving), if you’re supposed to work 10 hrs and 15 mins then your breaks will make your finishes later.
What sort of driving job can be worked out to last exactly a set length of time?
All deliveries are timed if my first 2 are on time and I then have to take a 45 min break all my next deliveries are running late all Because the 45 min break is not included in the daily running order.
Well that ain’t your problem then.
Take your break and carry on, then when asked why your deliveries were late just reply that you arrived on time but the planner can’t plan.
Job done, feet up and have a brew.
johnthemilk:
All deliveries are timed if my first 2 are on time and I then have to take a 45 min break all my next deliveries are running late all Because the 45 min break is not included in the daily running order.
Shouldn’t take them very long to work out why you’re running late then. Is it possible to approach the person setting the runs and/ or someone higher up? Do it calmly, worried about the times/ customers and sticking to the driving/ WTD requirements, put the ball in their court and of course cover your arse at the same time. Possibly the new person doesn’t know or understand the break requirements. Had a depot manager that interfered with the transport scheduling setting impossible times, he thought that as there was never a 4.5 hour driving stint that the 45 minute break wasn’t needed 
Vid:
If you’re to finish 10 hrs & 15 mins after you start then of course there needs to be provision in your schedule for breaks (I’d prefer two 30 minute breaks, 1 for 1WTD & 1 for driving), if you’re supposed to work 10 hrs and 15 mins then your breaks will make your finishes later.
Why 30 + 30 when it can be 15 + 30 for both WTD and driving breaks ?
There were designed to work togther
Hi Vid
This chap has never driven an Hgv never passed a pcc and never worked in transport but he has the requirements needed he NEVER [zb] listens to anybody and he’s always right.
If you are that worried about you not having a break planed and your timed deliveries…My answer is do your deliveries up till you have done six hours work take a fifty minute break then carry on till your 10:45 working day is done then take what is left on the back of your truck back and tell your wa sorry planner that he must plan your deliveries with a break included in the working day or there will be more returns. Remember this if he threatens you get him or her to put it in writing then go and take some legal advice or come back to the forum … Now that would be a good read
ROG:
Vid:
If you’re to finish 10 hrs & 15 mins after you start then of course there needs to be provision in your schedule for breaks (I’d prefer two 30 minute breaks, 1 for 1WTD & 1 for driving), if you’re supposed to work 10 hrs and 15 mins then your breaks will make your finishes later.Why 30 + 30 when it can be 15 + 30 for both WTD and driving breaks ?
There were designed to work togther
Before this WTD thing came in I would do 30 + 15, first break being the longer break for toilet/ food/ or a kip, 2nd break for a coffee and leg stretch. 15 mins first isn’t enough for me usually as I still need the toilet & food at the same time. Oh, and I get paid for breaks 
I see no benefit in working everything to the second to finish 15 minutes earlier.
edit: also it covers the possibility of exceeding 12 hours for WTD
johnthemilk:
All deliveries are timed if my first 2 are on time and I then have to take a 45 min break all my next deliveries are running late all Because the 45 min break is not included in the daily running order.
Do you unload yourself ?
If not it could it be that your new manager expects you to have a break while being unloaded, which in many situations is a perfectly legal and reasonable.
The simple answer to your problem is to explain to your new manager that his schedules are not workable because he hasn’t allowed for breaks that are legally required, if he doesn’t listen he soon will when he realises many deliveries are late because of his bad planning.
Manage your own breaks …jesus!!!..
johnthemilk:
Hi Vid
This chap has never driven an Hgv never passed a pcc and never worked in transport but he has the requirements needed he NEVER [zb] listens to anybody and he’s always right.
Send him to do a DCPC 35h test.
tachograph:
johnthemilk:
All deliveries are timed if my first 2 are on time and I then have to take a 45 min break all my next deliveries are running late all Because the 45 min break is not included in the daily running order.Do you unload yourself ?
If not it could it be that your new manager expects you to have a break while being unloaded, which in many situations is a perfectly legal and reasonable.
The simple answer to your problem is to explain to your new manager that his schedules are not workable because he hasn’t allowed for breaks that are legally required, if he doesn’t listen he soon will when he realises many deliveries are late because of his bad planning.
The issue with having breaks while loading ,is you can only get bags of crisps,bars of chocolate and rank coffee at most places I went,you cantlive on that and stay healthy ,even the bloke who came in and gave a a speech on healthy living confirmed this ,he was 
When he asked drivers too give him the low down on what they would eat within a shift ,he gave us a diet sheet of what we need too eat within a shift ,pckts of crisps,bars chocolate etc wasn’t on it .
were not in the era of kids down mines ,it’s 2015 ,we should be able too pull in where we want ,have a 50 min break ,something proper too eat ,especially when doing 15 hrs ,80 hrs a week ,zb me even the check out girls at supermarkets can get a hot meal in a canteen doing 4/6 hrs per shift 