I’ve got a driving assessment today, I worked last night and I’m at work tonight, is any use of my card classed as “out if scope” as it’s not for commercial purposes ■■ Or should I just stick my tesco club card in and hope no-one notices 
Darb:
I’ve got a driving assessment today, I worked last night and I’m at work tonight, is any use of my card classed as “out if scope” as it’s not for commercial purposes ■■ Or should I just stick my tesco club card in and hope no-one notices
I’d sugest you say you forgot your card it might just work if the assessor isn’t a jobsworth. If the assessor won’t believe then try your club card .
Piece of advise : don’t run bent!!
I would imagine he will want to see your card and both parts of license,before you get anywhere near the unit.
No its not counted as out of scope, most company’s will dip your card before an assessment, so be one step ahead of them, make arrangements to have your assessment after a suitable daily rest, if they are a reputable company, they will understand, it will also show professionalism on your part, and also save any red faces.
I conduct assessments now and again and I like to see your card being inserted and set up correctly. This shows me that a driver knows how to use a tachograph. On the hours front, Im afraid if you cant LEGALLY drive then it wouldn’t be one I would conduct.
OUT OF SCOPE?
If the vehicle is not carrying any goods and the purpose if for a driving assessment only then I wonder if it could be deemed out of scope?
Article 1 of the EU regs states that the regs are for those vehicles carrying goods which makes me wonder if the above could be used?
ROG:
OUT OF SCOPE?If the vehicle is not carrying any goods and the purpose if for a driving assessment only then I wonder if it could be deemed out of scope?
Article 1 of the EU regs states that the regs are for those vehicles carrying goods which makes me wonder if the above could be used?
Sounds nice, but fitters have to use a tacho when presenting a vehicle for MOT regardless of whether it is carrying goods for hire and reward.
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ROG:
OUT OF SCOPE?If the vehicle is not carrying any goods and the purpose if for a driving assessment only then I wonder if it could be deemed out of scope?
Article 1 of the EU regs states that the regs are for those vehicles carrying goods which makes me wonder if the above could be used?
Sounds nice, but fitters have to use a tacho when presenting a vehicle for MOT regardless of whether it is carrying goods for hire and reward.
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Surely though, a fitter driving a lorry to an MOT test is being paid for doing so, so is being rewarded. Where as someone on an assessment as long as they are not being paid to do it would come into the not for hire or reward bracket.
A class C driver doing C+E training doesn’t need to use a tacho so would the same not apply to someone on an assessment?
There’s me thinking? 
WORKSHOP CARD fitters drive on it? 
COMPANY CARD drivers to get assessed? 
surely it’s not JUST to download the head! 
a driver SHOULDN’T need to put his OWN card in for an assessment FFS! 
this is just plain outright stupidity, ENGLISHMAN IN HIS OWN COUNTRY, scared of his own shadow! DCPC ANYONE? 
Actually I think my last statment about not needing a Tacho whilst training for C+E could be wrong. I can’t remember, must be an age thing
Fatboy slimslow:
There’s me thinking?
No, what is plain outright stupidity is not being able to see how such a rule could be abused.
dreamingofoz:
Actually I think my last statment about not needing a Tacho whilst training for C+E could be wrong. I can’t remember, must be an age thing
You don’t need a tacho for lessons.
Conor:
dreamingofoz:
Actually I think my last statment about not needing a Tacho whilst training for C+E could be wrong. I can’t remember, must be an age thingYou don’t need a tacho for lessons.
So if you don’t need the card in for a lesson then surely you don’t need one in for an assessment unless it’s an agency assessment and he/she is being paid, is that right ?
bald bloke:
Conor:
dreamingofoz:
Actually I think my last statment about not needing a Tacho whilst training for C+E could be wrong. I can’t remember, must be an age thingYou don’t need a tacho for lessons.
So if you don’t need the card in for a lesson then surely you don’t need one in for an assessment unless it’s an agency assessment and he/she is being paid, is that right ?
There is a specific exemption in the regs for those doing licence acquisition and dcpc training
ROG:
bald bloke:
Conor:
dreamingofoz:
Actually I think my last statment about not needing a Tacho whilst training for C+E could be wrong. I can’t remember, must be an age thingYou don’t need a tacho for lessons.
So if you don’t need the card in for a lesson then surely you don’t need one in for an assessment unless it’s an agency assessment and he/she is being paid, is that right ?
There is a specific exemption in the regs for those doing licence acquisition and dcpc training
I had to always use a card when I did lessons and my test on the old faculs. To the IP watch what you are doing if you haven’t told the company you are working for now about the assessment as it will show up when you download your card that you were driving a vehicle not registered to them.
Our company nearly sacked 2 of our drivers for doing this exact same thing. Plus I’m not sure if they could get done for you breaking drivers hours rules if you run bent and get pulled.
The using of the tacho in driving lessons is for training purposes and to show records in case of any dispute over the amount of hours behind the wheel
In my opinion, if you use your card for the assessment, then that time will be used as part of your working day ( regardless ) so i believe that it will count as such and it will be used as a booking on procedure, which would be used as part of your working day, and therefore jeopardise your night shift, but, if you have a sufficient rest period between finishing the assessment and your start of the night shift, then all will be ok.
Completed the assessment, used my card, passed the assessment, handed my notice in, will have to suffer any consequences
The way I see it is I have 2 licenses, one is a HGV license and the other is a HGV vocational license, I didn’t use the vocational one so the regs mean nothing
And when I mention the name of the company I’m leaving I’m sure VOSA will give me a pat on the back
If your card goes in during the assessment, you’ll be driving whilst on daily rest… If the assessor sees that running bent is OK with the firm you’re looking at, then perhaps you should think again at even wanting to work at such an establishment.
If I were an assessor, and the candidate turned up “with no card”, I’d show him the door on the spot - you’re told to bring ALL documents & cards to the interview/assessment with you.
I was turned down last year because I couldn’t show one a blue card one day - despite telling him I’d not actually got one, 'cos I’ve not done my DCPC yet! - I think that was all he wanted to know…
Cheap labour vacancies are not the same as quality staff wanted. Hasn’t been for some time alas. 