fivetide:
Darkside:
CraigM:
hmmmmmmm. Im bored of this troll alreadyCya
On another thread he has been on about the last 25 years driving
I have been driving since 1984 so that’s 33 years
But you, like, use the word ‘like’ in the manner that, like, Generation Snowflake does?
Must try harder.
Olog Hai:
fivetide:
Darkside:
CraigM:
hmmmmmmm. Im bored of this troll alreadyCya
On another thread he has been on about the last 25 years driving
I have been driving since 1984 so that’s 33 years
But you, like, use the word ‘like’ in the manner that, like, Generation Snowflake does?
Must try harder.
SJW / Snowflakes driving a truck powered by fossil fuels !! ■■ They would rather throw themselves ( by mutual consent) on a non lethal organic sword in a safe space with a trained councilor to support them. 
fivetide:
Dan ze Man:
Nice read. Thx man.So what happend with the carpets?
Please!!!
I’m fleshing out my notes from my diary and will scribe part 3 tonight… sorry I got nostalgic and had to write up the last quick story.
robroy… thanks for the info I’m filling in some blanks of my own with it , I did have an ERF for a couple of months with a very simple 4 on 4 crash, a massive difference in ease of use.
I do know the box had 3 positions as I said before I - II - III Now if we say the center is the box unsplit then yes I’m calling it what I was told it was, a Triple. But if you are saying its a 4 speed box split twice high and low then its my fault , I called it what I thought it was… so I apologise for any confusion I may have caused.But if I was to question someones knowledge I would at least offer a explanation of why I thought it was wrong rather than just out right calling some one a liar… that’s just me I suppose
Seeing as I called NOBODY a liar, I reckon that dig could not possibly be aimed at me. 
Especially when my explanation included an apology. 
It was only ever a twin splitter. The confusion here is because of the three lever positions believing it was a triple splitter. Only ever drove one truck with this box, an 88 E Reg ERF with a ■■■■■■■ 14litre 320 belonging to JR…hated it…
JIMBO47:
0 here you go for the young’uns born after 1990 what it looked like.
Thanks Jimbo, you beat me to it.
I encountered this hateful device in a MAN 22.433 in around 1995 and I can see why they didnt catch on.
Really awful.
JIMBO47:
0 here you go for the young’uns born after 1990 what it looked like.
WOW Jimbo ! that’s it I googled to my eyes bled trying to find what I remembered… so it is a triple split ? Top down that’s its exact profile… thanks again
fivetide:
JIMBO47:
0 here you go for the young’uns born after 1990 what it looked like.WOW Jimbo ! that’s it I googled to my eyes bled trying to find what I remembered… so it is a triple split ? Top down that’s its exact profile… thanks again
Eaton still called it a twin splitter. The first lever position is the lower gear plus two other ‘split’ positions ‘II’ and ‘III’. Can see why you call it a triple splitter though, to be a triple it would have to have a fourth position ‘IIII’
From what you described here, this was what I knew as the Eaton twin split.
Same 4 gate H pattern and 3 position knob on the gearstick but quite different opperation.
Position 1 on the switch and use the 4 gears as normal(low range), then switch to position 2 and move the gearstick back into 1st which now becomes 5th (high range). Now you have the option of using position 3 on the switch to give you a half gear between 5th and 8th, effectively “spliting” each change.
A much better way of doing things as, depending on the trucks load out, you could miss gears out and go for one and a half gears in one change unlike the “tripple split” arrangement which more or less commanded you to use each gear sequencally.
I found going up the box not much of a problem, it was slowing down where you need to loose a few gears in a hurry that caught me out and alway seemed to be in the wrong gear when on the roundabout or whatever.
AndieHyde:
From what you described here, this was what I knew as the Eaton twin split.
Same 4 gate H pattern and 3 position knob on the gearstick but quite different opperation.
Position 1 on the switch and use the 4 gears as normal(low range), then switch to position 2 and move the gearstick back into 1st which now becomes 5th (high range). Now you have the option of using position 3 on the switch to give you a half gear between 5th and 8th, effectively “spliting” each change.
A much better way of doing things as, depending on the trucks load out, you could miss gears out and go for one and a half gears in one change unlike the “tripple split” arrangement which more or less commanded you to use each gear sequencally.
I found going up the box not much of a problem, it was slowing down where you need to loose a few gears in a hurry that caught me out and alway seemed to be in the wrong gear when on the roundabout or whatever.
If your talking about a twin splitter Andy you’ve completely lost me 
That’s a 13 speed
JIMBO47:
0 here you go for the young’uns born after 1990 what it looked like.
Yeah brings back memories! Box of 100 neutrals in the wrong hands!
the maoster:
Triple split pah! This bad boy is where it’s at
Love it maoster Now that would put a few off the road!
I enjoyed that last bit. Reminds me of the ‘assessment’ on ‘Hell Drivers’
I worked for a haulage firm with a large rental fleet in the early 90’s with loads of ERF’s .There was just a young girl that they put thru her test in the office and the amount of times drivers came back after a few mins saying there’s something wrong with the box . She would jump in and drive them around the estate and say so them seems to be working fine now sir and get out . Often with an audience of drivers sniggering
Punchy Dan:
AndieHyde:
From what you described here, this was what I knew as the Eaton twin split.
Same 4 gate H pattern and 3 position knob on the gearstick but quite different opperation.
Position 1 on the switch and use the 4 gears as normal(low range), then switch to position 2 and move the gearstick back into 1st which now becomes 5th (high range). Now you have the option of using position 3 on the switch to give you a half gear between 5th and 8th, effectively “spliting” each change.
A much better way of doing things as, depending on the trucks load out, you could miss gears out and go for one and a half gears in one change unlike the “tripple split” arrangement which more or less commanded you to use each gear sequencally.
I found going up the box not much of a problem, it was slowing down where you need to loose a few gears in a hurry that caught me out and alway seemed to be in the wrong gear when on the roundabout or whatever.If your talking about a twin splitter Andy you’ve completely lost me
That’s a 13 speed
You are right, I have known people call the same gearbox the 13 speed Fuller or the Eaton twin split.
I think someone also mentioned earlier in the thread that there could have been a geographical terminology at play here, you say potatoe, i say potatoe ( dosnt really work in written form, but you know the song)
Eaton and Fuller are one in the same, and I recall the embossed on to the top of the gearstick of BOTH positional switch systems, Eaton. So today, we are all winners.
I’ve pm.d a man who will know.
This guy had his own trucks in the 60s, 70s, and 80s, and what he does not know about old Atkis, Seddon Atkis, and ERFs, aint worth knowing. …even more than YOUNG Mr Punchard. 
He ran trucks while I was at school for Christ’s sake, .and he’ s a main contributor on the ‘Old Timer’ forum.
So wait for ‘Bewick’ to hopefully come on, and settle the argument.
That’s right ,I happen to have a new in the box gearstick top selector under the bed,as you do ,ready for when my 16 speed conks and I drop the Tso in place
Edit plus the Eaton tso is 150 revs less In overdrive than the 16 speed Eaton ,not sure on the ratios of a 13 speed over drive but I thought a 13 speed was the fastest overdrive of all ? This could be OLD mans territory
Whoa, steady on there chief. I’m not that old but have happened to waggle the stick with both hands over the years. (Enter a startled cat)
Not an arguement as such, more a misunderstanding.
If I get time before Bewick gets here, I should google these transmissions and find out what the manufacturers actually called them.
Yeah i reckon you were describing the 13 speed Fuller Andie, but Christ its been a few years since.
Shall we throw Fodens 12 speed 3 range box into the discussion to help simplify things, with the three unequal ranges
