Actually there’s nothing that I can see that shows that the OP has posted under any other name, I’m not saying he hasn’t nor am I saying he has
well you did by saying that
Actually there’s nothing that I can see that shows that the OP has posted under any other name, I’m not saying he hasn’t nor am I saying he has
well you did by saying that
Being honest you would have said categorically 100 percent
A mobile device has no fixed IP adres. Only a land line has one, and even then it’s not difficult to get a proxy.
simcant:
Actually there’s nothing that I can see that shows that the OP has posted under any other name, I’m not saying he hasn’t nor am I saying he has
well you did by saying that
simcant:
Being honest you would have said categorically 100 percent
As I said “there’s nothing that I can see that shows that the OP has posted under any other name”, having different IP addresses doesn’t prove anything either way so how could I say anything categorically, that’s what I meant by “I’m not saying he hasn’t nor am I saying he has”
I’ll repeat it again “there’s nothing that I can see that shows that the OP has posted under any other name”.
Transport industry is full of nobheads, tossers and ■■■■■■■■ Welcome!
After reading quite a few threads I have come to the conclusion that tachograph is actually the only real person on the entire forum besides me… I’m 100% certain …I’ve checked his IP and traced it to the north pole under the alias Santa Claus … I have to stop typing its time for my med’s and the nurse is calling me. I saw a black and white cat… or was it white and black ? … ohhh GOD so many unanswered questions … why oh why GOD … why ■■?
“Sanity is not about confrontation.
It’s about filtering.
Having a stable and happy life is about saying “no” to crazy people,
not about inviting them in and then hoping that confrontations are going to make them sane.”
Stefan Molyneux
robroy:
fivetide:
Had some nasty driving jobs to start with, triple split Eaton’s .Yeh, because those ‘‘Triple Split Eatons’’ must have been much harder than the Eaton Twin splitters that everybody else used.
(Google is your friend if trying to appear genuine.
)
Have a gold star … work like this must be rewarded… would you like me to pin it to your batman costume or would you like to give it to your invisible friend ?
It was a triple split … give me conclusive proof they don’t exist , not a proof that Twin spitters do… everyone knows that … DOH !
fivetide:
robroy:
fivetide:
Had some nasty driving jobs to start with, triple split Eaton’s .Yeh, because those ‘‘Triple Split Eatons’’ must have been much harder than the Eaton Twin splitters that everybody else used.
(Google is your friend if trying to appear genuine.
)
Have a gold star … work like this must be rewarded… would you like me to pin it to your batman costume or would you like to give it to your invisible friend ?
It was a triple split … give me conclusive proof they don’t exist , not a proof that Twin spitters do… everyone knows that … DOH !
Fivetide can you just give us the rest of the story please, its not just me lots of other people want you to finnish it because its written so well, you could be a big star here and have people looking up to you and replying to your every post, something like a god.
To me you are already a god in the way you told your storey, bloody fantastic give us more please
fivetide:
robroy:
fivetide:
Had some nasty driving jobs to start with, triple split Eaton’s .Yeh, because those ‘‘Triple Split Eatons’’ must have been much harder than the Eaton Twin splitters that everybody else used.
(Google is your friend if trying to appear genuine.
)
Have a gold star … work like this must be rewarded… would you like me to pin it to your batman costume or would you like to give it to your invisible friend ?
It was a triple split … give me conclusive proof they don’t exist , not a proof that Twin spitters do… everyone knows that … DOH !
Don’t be silly, Robin is NOT invisible! …DOH.!
fivetide:
robroy:
fivetide:
Had some nasty driving jobs to start with, triple split Eaton’s .Yeh, because those ‘‘Triple Split Eatons’’ must have been much harder than the Eaton Twin splitters that everybody else used.
(Google is your friend if trying to appear genuine.
)
Have a gold star … work like this must be rewarded… would you like me to pin it to your batman costume or would you like to give it to your invisible friend ?
It was a triple split … give me conclusive proof they don’t exist , not a proof that Twin spitters do… everyone knows that … DOH !
In a moment of fairness, Eaton did do a “triple split” gearbox which I think could be the misunderstanding here.
Standard 4 H pattern with a three position switch, L,M,H in which you would start off in 1L and move to 1M and then 1H , then in one deft movement change into 2 whilst pushing the switch back to L and repeating the sequence until 4H.
Totally THE worst idea of all mankind.
Sorry Fivetide, Robroy is normally a sensible poster, only a recent cluster of special posters to these forums have a lot of people spooked and the slightest naivety is subject to a witchhunt.
Now watch for the fallout from my words.
AndieHyde:
fivetide:
robroy:
fivetide:
Had some nasty driving jobs to start with, triple split Eaton’s .Yeh, because those ‘‘Triple Split Eatons’’ must have been much harder than the Eaton Twin splitters that everybody else used.
(Google is your friend if trying to appear genuine.
)
Have a gold star … work like this must be rewarded… would you like me to pin it to your batman costume or would you like to give it to your invisible friend ?
It was a triple split … give me conclusive proof they don’t exist , not a proof that Twin spitters do… everyone knows that … DOH !
In a moment of fairness, Eaton did do a “triple split” gearbox which I think could be the misunderstanding here.
Standard 4 H pattern with a three position switch, L,M,H in which you would start off in 1L and move to 1M and then 1H , then in one deft movement change into 2 whilst pushing the switch back to L and repeating the sequence until 4H.
Totally THE worst idea of all mankind.
Sorry Fivetide, Robroy is normally a sensible poster, only a recent cluster of special posters to these forums have a lot of people spooked and the slightest naivety is subject to a witchhunt.
Now watch for the fallout from my words.
Thanks AndieHyde Your spot on, I thought it was a diff split and 4 on 4 but I’m not a mechanic, I can describe it though - bulbous chrome knob shaped like a giant lemon with a silver on black h-box inscribe on top - reverse away and back (omg did that reverse screw my shoulder up) ,splitter was on the thumb side, single black cog like button, and I - II - III written on it. I’m not sure but I think it was an ex Riding’s’s Atkinson as blue could be seen through stone chips from under it grass green respray.
OMG Segway into story… sorry folks… I remember picking it up from the P&O yard at Fleetwood can’t have averaged more than 10 miles an hour all the way to 4-ways, crashing and grinding the gears, dropping too many splits, angry traffic jam behind me as far as the eye could see. (although not all of them were annoyed, the vast majority of split screen Morrison’s and Austin Allegro’s with their WW1 veterans – driving glove clad occupants, where more than happy at the pace I was setting).
I’d pulled over on the layby down to the Fleetwood road traffic lights, sweating, swearing and thumping the dashboard, fingers shaking from anger trying to open a new packet of B&H to calm my nerves. In my mirror I noticed another truck pull in behind me. I was about to walk to the nearest phone box and ring my new boss and tell him where he could pick his truck up from, when there was a very solid knock on the door.
“Move over young man”, an old man’s voice commanded.
A chap in his (I guessed) late 50’s, filthy flat cap, dark oil soaked blue overalls and metal studied clogs, looked up at me with squinting brown eyes and pointed with absolute authority to the passenger seat. I can only describe him as what I would imagine humans would look like from a futuristic colonised, high gravity planet, where personal hygiene was an affront to their sense of morality.
I leapt like a startled gazelle over to the passenger side (why… I still ask myself that question today, maybe a bit of fear, perhaps being use to obeying authoritative figures, who knows?).
I wound the widow down discretely as he adjusted the seat. A flick of the key fired up the Strato’s ■■■■■■■■■ engine.
“Click to bottom, low box, leave in 4th”, he growled over the throbbing exhaust noise.
The possible kidnapper flicked down the splitter button to the bottom with his thumb, moved the gear stick over the number 4 on the knob in one fluid movement, then depressed the clutch as if it was power assisted. “Not too much pressure, wait for it to find the cog”. The gear stick dropped gently into position (no crunch), handbrake briskly pulled back and flipped up, he pulled out into traffic without any indication to the coffin dodgers creeping down road. He gunned the throttle, lifting the cab making the engine scream with a cruel sadistic whine. Being on an incline the rev’s flicked to red third rapidly.
He looked over at me ignoring the vehicles in front, “Prepare mid-range”, he said, flicking the splitter knob deftly to the centre position (II). “Drop clutch and Kick it out when the needle hits green”, he continued, eyes still focused on me. The gear leaver fell out of low-4th with minimum effort, then the split box clanked as it adjusted to the new setting. “Lift clutch, boot it”, he gunned the engine to the top of yellow again. “Drop clutch… head for 1st, wait till the needles in green”, the rev’s dropped into centre green. The stick found the notch like a gentle bridegroom on his wedding night.
He drove the truck to the M65 Kirkham roundabout, giving precise simple instructions all the way, flicking it up and down through the boxes with an ease I never mastered, even after spending nearly a year with the unit. Then we swapped places and he instructed me with a calm fatherly tone, all the way back to the layby. “Take your time, it’s not a race”, pre-emptied almost every consequent instruction. The journey was about 3 miles, and I believe I gained enough skill to be at least safe in traffic and go on to be at best competent with the box.
As we pulled into the layby even before we had ground to halt the passenger door slammed and he had disappeared back to his own truck. Not even giving me a chance to thank the unpaid instructor. Bursting with new confidence this miserable November day for me, was now like a balmy spring afternoon in April. I set off on my journey to Birkenhead with my full load of roped and sheet’ed sweet-oil barrels, heading back to the Kirkham junction. About 5 minutes in I reached over to the handy dash slot for my fresh packet of cig’s to celebrate my new found knowledge. And they were nowhere to be seen! A big grin crossed my face, “Fair enough old man, well worth the trade”, I thought, laughing to myself. I stopped outside the Shell petrol station to get another packet and as I dismounted a loud air horn blasted the air, the driver, thumb raised in the air with a lit B&H cig between fingers passed me with a beaming grin, smoke pouring from the window.
On my return home later that week, I described the man to my father, a tipper driver himself. He knew instantly who he was. Many years later, long after that latter-day ■■■■ Turpin had passed away, I recounted this exact story to his son in the local pub. “He was a kind, but grumpy old man, who would help anyone”, is how he had described him to me. “He learned his trade in the desert during the war, helping each other is second nature”, he added with a smile, “You had to it’s how you survived”.
AndieHyde, did I describe the gearbox you where thinking of correctly ?
Robroy , it all just good natured banter as far as I’m concerned lol
was the old boy’s name camouflage by any chance.
Nice read. Thx man.
So what happend with the carpets?
Please!!!
I’ve never been afraid to admit I’m wrong, and if I am I apologise.
Never heard of a Triple split Eaton.
The split screen Atki Mk 2s I remember had David Brown boxes, or 9 spd Eaton Fullers, (well the ones I drove did anyway)
The later new model replacement, the Sed Atk 400s I had, with the 250 ■■■■■■■ in, also had the 9 spd Eaton Fuller
The 401s I had, had the 290E, 13spd Eaton Fuller, geared to a Rockwell axle.
The Eaton Twin split (4 gears split twice) did not come out in this country until mid 80s afai recall, first one I came across was the new E series ERF, around 87ish.
Again …if I’m wrong I apologise for jumping in,…(and also for boring the arse of everyone else talking about old truck g/boxes .
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robroy:
I’ve never been afraid to admit I’m wrong, and if I am I apologise.
Never heard of a Triple split Eaton.
The split screen Atki Mk 2s I remember had David Brown boxes, or 9 spd Eaton Fullers, (well the ones I drove did anyway)The later new model replacement, the Sed Atk 400s I had, with the 250 ■■■■■■■ in, also had the 9 spd Eaton Fuller
The 401s I had, had the 290E, 13spd Eaton Fuller, geared to a Rockwell axle.
The Eaton Twin split (4 gears split twice) did not come out in this country until mid 80s afai recall, first one I came across was the new E series ERF, around 87ish.Again …if I’m wrong I apologise for jumping in,…(and also for boring the arse of everyone else talking about old truck g/boxes
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Triple split wtf iam with old man Robroy on this
Me too… I worked for a bloke with a wide selection of ‘traditional’ ERFs and thoug I used two speed axles and twin splitters, and 9 speed Fullers, I never ever heard of a triple splitter…
An odd way to drive an Eaton Twin Splitter, for thats what it was.
Unless you required lightning quick shifts, ie on the mother of steep hills or when racing your mate away from the lights , you only needed the clutch at rest to engage the first gear you chose (and yes 4th low range was an acceptable start gear), and again when coming back to rest unless you slipped into neutral as the vehicle came to a halt.
The rest of the you simply allowed the revs to drop or raised them if going down the gears to match engine and roads speed for the new gear and the split would just engage itself, if you were changing gear say from 2nd high to 3rd low you’d do the same, just allow the revs to drop as you shifted the gearstick (having already pre selected the spilt shift to low).
The beauty about the box was you could pre select the splitter, say 3rd low to 3rd direct, but nothing would happen till you lifted off the throttle momentarily when that split would happen automatically.
You could use any combination of block shifts you fancied, the method was the same every time.
Depending on how quickly the engine revs could raise or drop governed how quickly those shifts happened, the F90 MAN of the 80’s was IMHO had of the best engines for this box because it was free revving engine with what must have been a very light flywheel because the revs dropped instantly enabling very fast changes.
These boxes also had a clutch/gear brake, operated by a button at the very bottom of the clutch pedal travel.
If you wanted lightning a quick change, as fast as you could press the clutch to the floor and release it that change would go through, this was also a useful thing when you first got one because it was bloody easy to end up with a boxful of 12 neutrals and you hadn’t a bloody clue.
It took me about a month of regular driving to crack this box, but once learned it was the best driver’s box of the lot.
I too have never heard of a triple splitter but then there’s probably dozens of boxes i’ve never used, so i’m definately not saying there wasn’t one, but a triple splitter would have had 4 ranges instead of three and i’ve never come across one.
A gearbox with two ranges (as opposed to a range change box such as a 4 over 4 where you go up 4 then change range and go up another 4) where you select a gear but have the option of two ratios in that one gear would be called a splitter box, so if the box had three different ratios for each gear where you selected the gear first but then had the option of three speeds whilst technically staying in that one gear would be called a twin splitter,
because you can split the gears into three.
I suspect this triple splitter naming is driver’s and regional differences in what we call all sorts of things.
As Robroy though, very happy to be put right and discover there really was a triple splitter with 4 speeds for every gear out there being used, also apologies for the old gearbox waffle
Dan ze Man:
Nice read. Thx man.So what happend with the carpets?
Please!!!
I’m fleshing out my notes from my diary and will scribe part 3 tonight… sorry I got nostalgic and had to write up the last quick story.
robroy… thanks for the info I’m filling in some blanks of my own with it , I did have an ERF for a couple of months with a very simple 4 on 4 crash, a massive difference in ease of use.
I do know the box had 3 positions as I said before I - II - III Now if we say the center is the box unsplit then yes I’m calling it what I was told it was, a Triple. But if you are saying its a 4 speed box split twice high and low then its my fault , I called it what I thought it was… so I apologise for any confusion I may have caused.
But if I was to question someones knowledge I would at least offer a explanation of why I thought it was wrong rather than just out right calling some one a liar… that’s just me I suppose
i had the same box as fivetide describe’s in a 87 f90 and alway’s new it as a twin splitter.