I don’t want to sound harsh but that speech makes me feel physically sick.
Usual buzzword bullocks climb a hill , climb a mountain, reach for the stars.
One question eezeer are you this Barry Toszer chap or not.
eezeer:
A post put on the group page(might make clearer to some)
2016 will soon be on us and “out with the old and in with the new”
Can I please invite you all to take a few minutes to read a simple new year speech below.
I am no journalist so consider the bits between the lines and what is trying to be said in a short version, before dismissing without thought or consideration.
Thank you.
New Year Speech by the PDU
I can only ask myself and you if 2016 is going to be the year of change within the profession of UK Drivers. Is this the year we can finally see some unity forming and solidarity to bring about change and gain the respect you all deserve?
For 30 years now our profession has been on a downhill slope with conditions, facilities, rules and regulations… It has been like a car running downhill with no one in place to apply the brakes. The PDU wants to get good people together to first stop the car then turn it round and push it back up the hill to get the brakes repaired and working to a high standard so it will never again run downhill with no brakes.
It will take a long time, no overnight success stories or miracles can take place, but the more good people willing to support and push the car then the easier it will get to push it uphill. Only when together we can stop the downhill run and start to push it back up can we get it to where it should be.
United and working together brings respect and respect brings the advantages of people talking and listening and working to solve the issues. In turn this brings about more pride in our profession and friendship and camaraderie develop to make our profession strong and respected by not just the Industry we work in but also the general public who once again will see the “knights of the road”
The PDU-UK have the determination and the will power to take this on and stop the downhill run into oblivion, jobs are at risk as well as the conditions and facilities and only with a lot of hard work, talking, debate and negotiations can our profession once again be respected.It cannot be achieved without the support of you, not just the few who can see the future but also those sitting on the fence and hoping for better things. The majority of Drivers need to unite and form a solidarity that can be recognized. Just like many other professions we must work together and resolve the many issues and bring about the change needed to make us proud to be in this career and called Truckers.
Yes there is one thing that is making you hesitate on joining the unity and supporting what could be something strong. It will cost you £25.00 of your hard earned, and many will look at the past in paying unions to do sod all, or consider it a scam and money making exercise and think it a waste of money.
The PDU can fully understand and respect those thoughts, but at this point in time we can only ask you consider giving it a chance and support the unity.
The PDU with your support will prove its worth, will work hard to earn your respect and gain your trust. It has already started to work on the unity and unlike many before we are acting and not just talking the talk to resolve the many issues.
Consider your £25 as an investment in your future and hopefully the returns will be far more than you will get in a bank or building society.
2016 could be the year we can look back on and say this is the year Truckers in the UK woke up and recognized that change can only be achieved if we want it and are willing to support it as one united profession working together towards the same goals.
I use the word “RESPECT” a lot because I consider it one of the most important goals to aim for. Respect each other as we are a very diverse profession with each individual having his own considerations of what is best for his Family and future and not all understand their choices in life.
We all hold a licence but move in differing directions, but by bringing the diversity together and acting and respecting each other we grow strong and with this strength we will no longer be working in poor conditions with no respect but consulted and talked to with due respect.
We ask you to make 2016 the year of change, the unity has started and the long uphill battle to resolve the many issues is beginning to take place.
Stop sitting on the fence, hoping and dreaming because divided and broken nothing will ever change for the better.
Join the unity today, give us the support of solidarity and let us together make a start in pushing that car back up the hill.
Professional Drivers Uniting- UK
pdu-uk.co.
Thank you.
How about a word with Jeremy to bring back Nationalisation , a bigger and better BRS , that might level out the playing field. !
One thing that puts me off (and I know it shouldn’t) is that the website is complete cack!
A child could have put that together with the tools from 20 years ago…
So it’s not exactly sending the right message, and makes it harder to take it serious!
Evil8Beezle:
One thing that puts me off (and I know it shouldn’t) is that the website is complete cack!
A child could have put that together with the tools from 20 years ago…
So it’s not exactly sending the right message, and makes it harder to take it serious!
I know as much as anybody else how effective this scheme will be, but surely the quality of the website is superficial.
I’d rather have a second rate website and a decent organisation.
Also if the web site was up to the minute high quality showpiece, he would only be accused of using the funds recklessly 
robroy:
Evil8Beezle:
One thing that puts me off (and I know it shouldn’t) is that the website is complete cack!
A child could have put that together with the tools from 20 years ago…
So it’s not exactly sending the right message, and makes it harder to take it serious!I know as much as anybody else how effective this scheme will be, but surely the quality of the website is superficial.
I’d rather have a second rate website and a decent organisation.
Also if the web site was up to the minute high quality showpiece, he would only be accused of using the funds recklessly
I agree with that you are saying, but I think there could be something in the middle…
I’d definitively say that they shouldn’t throw money at a design agency for an all singing and dancing number, but image does control perception whether you like it or not. And currently I’m not of the opinion that the present website gives much confidence to potential new members.
As a guess, I’d say a freelance web designer could give that site a total makeover for £500, and it would make the world of difference to potential members on a unconscious level. Just my opinion, and no I’m not volunteering to do it! 
Sure theres loads of templates that could be used and how cheap it is to host a website let alone a few webpages these days puts cost out the window.
Although I dont mind alot of text its too ‘just say what everyone wants to hear and wait for the cash to come in’ for me.
Course anyone who has invested (loosest use of the term ever) £25 in this already is now battling not really for £25 but for their own good judgement which means if your in it your unwittingly part of the scheme anyway.
Might have to step away from this as its a bit close to my 419eater days which I swore not to go back to. Although there was a temptation to send Barrys crew on an adventure by pretending to be a large investor, Church of the Holy Dog Clip was coming to mind… 
Dipper_Dave:
I don’t want to sound harsh but that speech makes me feel physically sick.Usual buzzword bullocks climb a hill , climb a mountain, reach for the stars.
One question eezeer are you this Barry Toszer chap or not.
Just read it.
Ok maybe some of it is a bit ott, (I don’t subscribe to this Knight of the road ■■■■■■■■ for example) but to give him the benefit of the doubt, ie. that if his enthusiasm IS genuine, it sounds like determination to me.
If that determination is reflected in getting something done for us, you can’t really knock him.
Let’s just wait and see if things materialise.
Nobody is being forced to go with it, but any initial success (or lack of) will determine how popular the scheme will become in the future, and the doubters will be proved right or wrong then
As I said I’m for it in principle, and if it’s good enough for the ‘Oldboy’ and Trucknet trucking Godfather, aka Truckyboy it’ s ok by me.
robroy:
Dipper_Dave:
I don’t want to sound harsh but that speech makes me feel physically sick.Usual buzzword bullocks climb a hill , climb a mountain, reach for the stars.
One question eezeer are you this Barry Toszer chap or not.
Just read it.
Ok maybe some of it is a bit ott, (I don’t subscribe to this Knight of the road ■■■■■■■■ for example) but to give him the benefit of the doubt, ie. that if his enthusiasm IS genuine, it sounds like determination to me.
If that determination is reflected in getting something done for us, you can’t really knock him.
Let’s just wait and see if things materialise.
Nobody is being forced to go with it, but any initial success (or lack of) will determine how popular the scheme will become in the future, and the doubters will be proved right or wrong then
As I said I’m for it in principle, and if it’s good enough for the ‘Oldboy’ and Trucknet trucking Godfather, aka Truckyboy it’ s ok by me.
Imm In Its 25 pound its not going to break the bank if it amounts to nothing , but it might just might start the ball rolling towards a better future
boredwivdrivin:
my apologies to him then .but i have heard the name before
where ■■
Barrie Tozer runs the Truckersworld forum and has got a few mentions in the trade press and some newspapers about some of his campaigns.
bjd:
robroy:
Dipper_Dave:
I don’t want to sound harsh but that speech makes me feel physically sick.Usual buzzword bullocks climb a hill , climb a mountain, reach for the stars.
One question eezeer are you this Barry Toszer chap or not.
Just read it.
Ok maybe some of it is a bit ott, (I don’t subscribe to this Knight of the road ■■■■■■■■ for example) but to give him the benefit of the doubt, ie. that if his enthusiasm IS genuine, it sounds like determination to me.
If that determination is reflected in getting something done for us, you can’t really knock him.
Let’s just wait and see if things materialise.
Nobody is being forced to go with it, but any initial success (or lack of) will determine how popular the scheme will become in the future, and the doubters will be proved right or wrong then
As I said I’m for it in principle, and if it’s good enough for the ‘Oldboy’ and Trucknet trucking Godfather, aka Truckyboy it’ s ok by me. [emoji38]Imm In Its 25 pound its not going to break the bank if it amounts to nothing , but it might just might start the ball rolling towards a better future
A better future for Barry at the very least. But as I always say, free will and all that etc. Never let some anonymous internet poster you have never met change your opinion.
I’m sceptic through experience but that’s just me.
Winseer:
You cannot change anything by legally striking. It’s effective striking that’s already been made illegal you see…Example: Some pickets are standing by the brazier near the gate of the yard they are picketing. Managers are trying to run the place by themselves, Health & safety be damned.
A truck turns up, and the pickets won’t let them cross… Truck tries to barge in anyways. One picketer pulls driver from cab, NOT to “duff him over” or any other form of assault - but merely to seperate him from the vehicle keys, which are then confiscated, and thrown down the nearest drain… There’s now a nice 38t roadblock right in front of said gate, and nothing is coming or going until someone from the council turns up to fish the keys out of the drain. Not likely if it’s night time, weekend, or a bank holiday…
…Picket is a 100% success, nothing has been removed from the site, so nothing has been stolen.
So, assault, threatening behaviour , theft of keys are all affective?
The moment you “pull a driver from his cab” you are guilty of assault, take his keys is theft and both together is undoubtably threatening. If not then no doubt it’s not illegal to jump a driver in a lay by and take control of his truck whilst wearing a Bally and carrying a bat?
Picket is 100% illegal , 100% spineless , 100% brainless.
Unions are there for the corrupt to lead the utter morons. Simple bully factories. Why on earth any grown man would pay money from his hard earned wages to be told how to think is beyond me.
I witnessed some truly horrific things as a teen in Yorkshire during the miners strike/riot.
If some of the union fan boys can come on here and give me anything remotely near to a good explanation as to why my neighbours wife and two daughters ended up staying at our house having being threatened on the school run by 3 men due to the dad being a hard working free thinking man who broke the line, how the local shop keeper was threatened with having his business burned to the ground if he served 9 people named on a list as strike breakers ?
Unions are for the weak, led by the self motivated, selfish bullies.
If you need to pay money to be told how to think them your an idiot.
As for this long winded fantasy “PDU” statement asking for 25 pounds, ■■■■ off…paragraphs of what ifs and no hopes so long as agencies and the EU exist. I would have more hope giving my 25 pounds to a Nigerian General for my share in his lottery win.
Wake up and smell the coffee, so long as migratory labour without restriction exists then your “Drivers Unity” is a rip off and a scam for the weak minded dreamers .
Unions did have there place, and indeed did make major changes for workers, but that was a long long time ago, in a time when industry was strong in this country and felt around the world and therefore the impact of union threat was more affective, however it’s just not relevant anymore in a world of migratory work forces and mass shipping of products.
I am sure the usual Google search trucknet experts will come along and shout me down but I really don’t care as I think for myself so let me make it really clear…unions are scum, the reps are scum and the members are wage fodder.
Happy NYE.
Norfolkinclue1:
Winseer:
You cannot change anything by legally striking. It’s effective striking that’s already been made illegal you see…Example: Some pickets are standing by the brazier near the gate of the yard they are picketing. Managers are trying to run the place by themselves, Health & safety be damned.
A truck turns up, and the pickets won’t let them cross… Truck tries to barge in anyways. One picketer pulls driver from cab, NOT to “duff him over” or any other form of assault - but merely to seperate him from the vehicle keys, which are then confiscated, and thrown down the nearest drain… There’s now a nice 38t roadblock right in front of said gate, and nothing is coming or going until someone from the council turns up to fish the keys out of the drain. Not likely if it’s night time, weekend, or a bank holiday…
…Picket is a 100% success, nothing has been removed from the site, so nothing has been stolen.So, assault, threatening behaviour , theft of keys are all affective?
The moment you “pull a driver from his cab” you are guilty of assault, take his keys is theft and both together is undoubtably threatening. If not then no doubt it’s not illegal to jump a driver in a lay by and take control of his truck whilst wearing a Bally and carrying a bat?
Picket is 100% illegal , 100% spineless , 100% brainless.
Unions are there for the corrupt to lead the utter morons. Simple bully factories. Why on earth any grown man would pay money from his hard earned wages to be told how to think is beyond me.
I witnessed some truly horrific things as a teen in Yorkshire during the miners strike/riot.
If some of the union fan boys can come on here and give me anything remotely near to a good explanation as to why my neighbours wife and two daughters ended up staying at our house having being threatened on the school run by 3 men due to the dad being a hard working free thinking man who broke the line, how the local shop keeper was threatened with having his business burned to the ground if he served 9 people named on a list as strike breakers ?
Unions are for the weak, led by the self motivated, selfish bullies.
If you need to pay money to be told how to think them your an idiot.
As for this long winded fantasy “PDU” statement asking for 25 pounds, [zb] off…paragraphs of what ifs and no hopes so long as agencies and the EU exist. I would have more hope giving my 25 pounds to a Nigerian General for my share in his lottery win.
Wake up and smell the coffee, so long as migratory labour without restriction exists then your “Drivers Unity” is a rip off and a scam for the weak minded dreamers .
Unions did have there place, and indeed did make major changes for workers, but that was a long long time ago, in a time when industry was strong in this country and felt around the world and therefore the impact of union threat was more affective, however it’s just not relevant anymore in a world of migratory work forces and mass shipping of products.
I am sure the usual Google search trucknet experts will come along and shout me down but I really don’t care as I think for myself so let me make it really clear…unions are scum, the reps are scum and the members are wage fodder.
Happy NYE.
Ironically you’ve contradicted yourself.Strong unions certainly did make major changes for the working class and unfortunately in many cases that often meant calling a strike breaker a strike breaker.
The bit where they went wrong was in following the bs political Socialist line.Whether it be striking to put people like Callaghan into power or supporting the idea that British jobs for Communist Chinese workers,or acceptance of cheap immigrant labour,on the basis of workers of the world unite,is supposedly a good thing. 
On that note there has historically been more mistreatment of those on the union side by the cheap labour establishment than by union members victimising those who are too naive to realise that unity is the only chance that the working class has in creating and maintaining decent wages and terms and conditions.That applies whether it’s here or the US or Communist China.
Carryfast:
Norfolkinclue1:
Winseer:
You cannot change anything by legally striking. It’s effective striking that’s already been made illegal you see…Example: Some pickets are standing by the brazier near the gate of the yard they are picketing. Managers are trying to run the place by themselves, Health & safety be damned.
A truck turns up, and the pickets won’t let them cross… Truck tries to barge in anyways. One picketer pulls driver from cab, NOT to “duff him over” or any other form of assault - but merely to seperate him from the vehicle keys, which are then confiscated, and thrown down the nearest drain… There’s now a nice 38t roadblock right in front of said gate, and nothing is coming or going until someone from the council turns up to fish the keys out of the drain. Not likely if it’s night time, weekend, or a bank holiday…
…Picket is a 100% success, nothing has been removed from the site, so nothing has been stolen.So, assault, threatening behaviour , theft of keys are all affective?
The moment you “pull a driver from his cab” you are guilty of assault, take his keys is theft and both together is undoubtably threatening. If not then no doubt it’s not illegal to jump a driver in a lay by and take control of his truck whilst wearing a Bally and carrying a bat?
Picket is 100% illegal , 100% spineless , 100% brainless.
Unions are there for the corrupt to lead the utter morons. Simple bully factories. Why on earth any grown man would pay money from his hard earned wages to be told how to think is beyond me.
I witnessed some truly horrific things as a teen in Yorkshire during the miners strike/riot.
If some of the union fan boys can come on here and give me anything remotely near to a good explanation as to why my neighbours wife and two daughters ended up staying at our house having being threatened on the school run by 3 men due to the dad being a hard working free thinking man who broke the line, how the local shop keeper was threatened with having his business burned to the ground if he served 9 people named on a list as strike breakers ?
Unions are for the weak, led by the self motivated, selfish bullies.
If you need to pay money to be told how to think them your an idiot.
As for this long winded fantasy “PDU” statement asking for 25 pounds, [zb] off…paragraphs of what ifs and no hopes so long as agencies and the EU exist. I would have more hope giving my 25 pounds to a Nigerian General for my share in his lottery win.
Wake up and smell the coffee, so long as migratory labour without restriction exists then your “Drivers Unity” is a rip off and a scam for the weak minded dreamers .
Unions did have there place, and indeed did make major changes for workers, but that was a long long time ago, in a time when industry was strong in this country and felt around the world and therefore the impact of union threat was more affective, however it’s just not relevant anymore in a world of migratory work forces and mass shipping of products.
I am sure the usual Google search trucknet experts will come along and shout me down but I really don’t care as I think for myself so let me make it really clear…unions are scum, the reps are scum and the members are wage fodder.
Happy NYE.Ironically you’ve contradicted yourself.Strong unions certainly did make major changes for the working class and unfortunately in many cases that often meant calling a strike breaker a strike breaker.
The bit where they went wrong was in following the bs political Socialist line.Whether it be striking to put people like Callaghan into power or supporting the idea that British jobs for Communist Chinese workers,or acceptance of cheap immigrant labour,on the basis of workers of the world unite,is supposedly a good thing.
On that note there has historically been more mistreatment of those on the union side by the cheap labour establishment than by union members victimising those who are too naive to realise that unity is the only chance that the working class has in creating and maintaining decent wages and terms and conditions.That applies whether it’s here or the US or Communist China.
I actually agree with the webbed fingered ones statement but as for Carryfasts rant, lost interest after the first three words …
Dipper_Dave:
bjd:
Imm In Its 25 pound its not going to break the bank if it amounts to nothing , but it might just might start the ball rolling towards a better futureA better future for Barry at the very least.
Indeed. Well said.
dri-diddly-iver:
With a site as strong as truckersworld and spreading the word of being professional don’t you think we could at least try and help? It really must be good for the industry - and may, just may help us out in the long run
Good for the Industry is if Company and Staff pull in the same direction.
Good for the industry is in my opinion - when drivers work together for the benefit of everyone else in the industry.
Until a would-be Union leader attempts to create a new Union using his own personal stack and position (hence my reference to “someone like Donald Trump”) - this will never happen.
People want to “see yours” first. Merely asking for subs/donations etc. and then there’s a question mark over “What do I actually get from THIS Union that isn’t available in others?” - there’s no selling point to it at all.
Thing is Winseer, it’s new and all things new need a starting post. I know Barry and Eezeer very well, (they really are different people, but are close ) In fact I know Eezeer better than Barry does (known him nearly all my life to be honest) and have to agree with ALL Barries’ sentiments and ideas.
At least he’s making an effort and ANY backing can only be good in the long run. If it fails then it fails but it will not be through lack of effort and determination it will be through lack of backing and support.
£25 is about 2 or 3 hours work for a full years membership and if it looks like failing after a year then don’t re-new!! Give it a shot!
I didn’t go out last night and I reckon I saved £40 - that will do for me (still got drunk though)
dri-diddly-iver:
Thing is Winseer, it’s new and all things new need a starting post. I know Barry and Eezeer very well, (they really are different people, but are closeAt least he’s making an effort and ANY backing can only be good in the long run. If it fails then it fails but it will not be through lack of effort and determination it will be through lack of backing and support.
£25 is about 2 or 3 hours work for a full years membership and if it looks like failing after a year then don’t re-new!! Give it a shot!
I didn’t go out last night and I reckon I saved £40 - that will do for me (still got drunk though)
What involvement do you have in this PDU project, Rick? I am lead to believe that you are more involved in this than your posts here suggest and in fact you stand to profit yourself from any new membership.
Carl Usher:
dri-diddly-iver:
Thing is Winseer, it’s new and all things new need a starting post. I know Barry and Eezeer very well, (they really are different people, but are closeAt least he’s making an effort and ANY backing can only be good in the long run. If it fails then it fails but it will not be through lack of effort and determination it will be through lack of backing and support.
£25 is about 2 or 3 hours work for a full years membership and if it looks like failing after a year then don’t re-new!! Give it a shot!
I didn’t go out last night and I reckon I saved £40 - that will do for me (still got drunk though)
What involvement do you have in this PDU project, Rick? I am lead to believe that you are more involved in this than your posts here suggest and in fact you stand to profit yourself from any new membership.
Carl Usher, you seem to be “lead to believe” what you like to make up and then post hopping others believe it, accuse everyone and yet the biggest liar of all. love to meet all those people who are informing you?
At the end of the day some like me and dri-diddly-iver are offering our support hoping the PDU will tackle the issues that ■■■■ me of in this job. The more that support it the more chance it can succeed.
We all know doing nothing achieves nothing so for £25 a year I will give it a shot