Please Help
Can somebody please give me an appropriately titled Idiot’s Guide to Drivers hours because everytime I try to understand it all my head feels like it’s going to explode.
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Please Help
Can somebody please give me an appropriately titled Idiot’s Guide to Drivers hours because everytime I try to understand it all my head feels like it’s going to explode.
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Drivers Hours Regulations[/list:u]
Driving Breaks
Whenever a break of 45 minutes or more is taken, or when a split driving break is completed, a new 4½ hour driving period begins.
Examples:
Drive - 3 hours
Break - 45 minutes
The driving time is reset and you can drive for another 4½ hours before having another break.
Drive … 2½ hours
Other work … 1 hour
Drive … 2 hours
Break … 45 minutes (The driving time is reset)
Drive … 4½ hours
Break … 45 minutes
This is legal
(Split driving breaks)
Other work … 30 minutes
Drive … 1 hour
Break … 15 minutes
driver … 2 hours
Break … 30 minutes (The driving time is reset)
Drive … 4½ hours
Break … 45 minutes
This is legal
Drive … 1 hour
Break … 30 minutes
Drive … 3½ hours
Break … 15 minutes (This break should have been 30 minutes)
Drive … 4½ hours
Break … 45 minutes
This is not legal
In this case the split break was taken the wrong way round, the 30 minute break counted as the first part of a split break (15 minutes) so the second break should have been 30 minutes instead of 15.
(This would result in an infringement for exceeding 4½ hours driving without the required breaks)
Driving
The daily driving time can be split up into any combination of driving periods as long as no more than 4½ hours driving is accumulated before having a 45minute break.
Examples:
(9 hour driving shift)
Other work … 1 hour
Drive … 4½ hours
Break … 45 minutes
Drive … 4½ hours
Break … 45 minutes
Other work … 30 minutes
End of shift
(10 hour driving shift)
Other work … 15 minutes
Drive … 3½ hours
Break … 15 minutes
Drive … 1 hour
Break… 30 minutes
Drive … 3 hours
Break … 45 minutes
Drive … 2½ hours
Other work … 15 minutes
End of shift
Daily Rest
Any part of a rest period that does not fall within the period of 24 hours from the start of the shift will not count towards the daily rest period
For instance if you start at 06:00 and finish work at 19:15 then have 11 hours rest until 06:15 it will count as a reduced daily rest period, from the end of the shift at 19:15 to 06:00 (24 hours from the start of the shift) is only 10¾ hours.
So even though you’ve had 11 hours rest it’s a reduced daily rest period because only 10¾ hours of it was inside the 24 hour period from the start of the shift at 06:00.
Weekly Rest
Working Time Regulations[/list:u]
RT(WT)R Breaks
Up-to 6 hours working time.
If the shift is more than 6 hours working time but not more than 9 hours working time.
Or (You are legally required to comply with either the rule above ↑, or the rule bellow ↓, but not both)
If the shift is more than 9 hours working time.
Breaks for the working time regulations (RT(WT)R 2005) can be split into separate breaks of at-least 15 minutes each and cannot be taken at the immediate start or end of the shift.
Driving breaks count as breaks for the RT(WT)R and where appropriate breaks for the RT(WT)R count as driving breaks.
Take each rule in turn and let that rule sink in before going onto the next
When checking if you have complied with the rules consider each rule separately and tick it off if you have complied with it
Trying to consider all the rules at the same time will mess you up and there is no need to do that
Thank-you so much.
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How do trampers do 15 hours a day ■■?
Albert1:
How do trampers do 15 hours a day ■■?
The same way other drivers do 15 hours a day.
Reduced daily rest periods a maximum of 3 times between weekly rest periods or have split daily rest periods.
tachograph:
Albert1:
How do trampers do 15 hours a day ■■?The same way other drivers do 15 hours a day.
Reduced daily rest periods a maximum of 3 times between weekly rest periods or have split daily rest periods.
Was gonna mention about doing 5 * 15 hour shifts but looking above my heads mangled looking through that and I know it.
Think it was either you (Tachograph) or ROG that actually explained that one to me with split breaks…
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Where is Muckles condensed set, as I think that’s the best short guide that’s easy to digest…
Someone else can search for it though!
Evil8Beezle:
Where is Muckles condensed set, as I think that’s the best short guide that’s easy to digest…
Someone else can search for it though!
Cheers for these brief guides
So say I did 3 and half hours driving all together and did other work for 3 hours after all my drop offs to stores and got back to base within the driving time before 4 and half hours does this mean I don’t have to have any breaks ?
Mellor:
So say I did 3 and half hours driving all together and did other work for 3 hours after all my drop offs to stores and got back to base within the driving time before 4 and half hours does this mean I don’t have to have any breaks ?
You wouldn’t need a driving break but for the WTD 6 hour rule you would need a 15 minute break no later than 6 hours working time.
tachograph:
Mellor:
So say I did 3 and half hours driving all together and did other work for 3 hours after all my drop offs to stores and got back to base within the driving time before 4 and half hours does this mean I don’t have to have any breaks ?You wouldn’t need a driving break but for the WTD 6 hour rule you would need a 15 minute break no later than 6 hours working time.
Would I have to legally record/show that on the tachograph?
bigf00t:
tachograph:
Mellor:
So say I did 3 and half hours driving all together and did other work for 3 hours after all my drop offs to stores and got back to base within the driving time before 4 and half hours does this mean I don’t have to have any breaks ?You wouldn’t need a driving break but for the WTD 6 hour rule you would need a 15 minute break no later than 6 hours working time.
Would I have to legally record/show that on the tachograph?
You are legally required to record all your activities, if you take the driver card out of the tachograph and carry on working you would either do a manual entry next time you use a digital tachograph or write a manual entry on a printout.
Entering the manual entry into a tachograph would be the favoured option.
Andy Pandy:
Please HelpCan somebody please give me an appropriately titled Idiot’s Guide to Drivers hours because everytime I try to understand it all my head feels like it’s going to explode.
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Might help, might not - but I’ll offer a ‘free’ Drivers Hours CPC course in Burnley. Just pay the £8.75 upload fee.
If a Burnley’s no good - sorry
I was confused starting out asking Tachograph numerous questions but it soon clicks once your into it. Had an infringement in my first week for insufficent break in a 12 hour shift literally missing it by two minutes while waiting to get unloaded in the yard!