Driver's hours on trade plates, for new chassis off ships

Hello all,

My first post, thanks all for having me. A wealth of great info here, cracking!

Here is my question:

I’m starting for a company and my role for the first few weeks will be moving brand new lorry chassis, on trade plates, that have not been calibrated, plated, taxed, coach built etc, literally straight off the ships.

Now according to VOSA and DVSA’s .pdf downloads on Driver’s Hours the types of vehicles I will be driving are exempt from tacho and DCPC regulations. Though, cleverly, there is a line that states “Note: In some cases it may be necessary to refer to case law for definitive interpretations.” Nice get out praps . . . .■■

Can any experienced trade platers out there confirm what is what?

Is there ANYTHING stopping me from getting into a chassis in Purfleet and driving, “non stop”, fuel stops and the odd few half hour power nap praps . . . . up to Inverness or down Barcelona?

I’d appreciate and advice on this matter, as it does seem to be a little bit of a grey area . . . . .

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

Safe drive!!

OlBol

Exempt tacho for what you are doing

Great start . . . .

Do you know of any “case law” ? And would you confidentially handle a vehicle check in a chassis after a 6 hour non stop drive?

Or are these sorts of vehicles simply never stopped?

Thanks for your reply.

OlBol,

I have never seen a new chassis truck stopped for a check while under trade plates in the 20 odd yrs I have been driving, to be honest they don’t come under dvsa remit until they have been taxed and plated and put into commission.
I don’t think you will find any case law regarding these to be honest, but I could be wrong.

I expect that you will be fine unless you happen to drive past Alex Nairn while they are filming. He of course will have been swotting up for his Sergeant’s Exam so the temptation will be too hard to resist. :slight_smile:

Back in the olden days, I can remember them stopping those guys who drove coach and bus chassis with a homemade plywood cab on them. What the offence was I have no idea.

olbol:
Great start . . . .

Do you know of any “case law” ? And would you confidentially handle a vehicle check in a chassis after a 6 hour non stop drive?

Or are these sorts of vehicles simply never stopped?

Thanks for your reply.

OlBol,

Surely it would of been a whole lot easier to ask your employer what the situation is/was ?

They will have had the legal side sussed years ago ?

Just an observation :wink:

Santa:
Back in the olden days, I can remember them stopping those guys who drove coach and bus chassis with a homemade plywood cab on them. What the offence was I have no idea.

Speeding for one, and curiosity ?

olbol:
Hello all,

My first post, thanks all for having me. A wealth of great info here, cracking!

Here is my question:

I’m starting for a company and my role for the first few weeks will be moving brand new lorry chassis, on trade plates, that have not been calibrated, plated, taxed, coach built etc, literally straight off the ships.

Now according to VOSA and DVSA’s .pdf downloads on Driver’s Hours the types of vehicles I will be driving are exempt from tacho and DCPC regulations. Though, cleverly, there is a line that states “Note: In some cases it may be necessary to refer to case law for definitive interpretations.” Nice get out praps . . . .■■

Can any experienced trade platers out there confirm what is what?

Is there ANYTHING stopping me from getting into a chassis in Purfleet and driving, “non stop”, fuel stops and the odd few half hour power nap praps . . . . up to Inverness or down Barcelona?

I’d appreciate and advice on this matter, as it does seem to be a little bit of a grey area . . . . .

Thank you for taking the time to read this.

I’m guessing, as they are not carrying goods they would not qualify as ‘heavy goods vehicles’ in their current capacity, hence the exemption. My advice would be negotiate a good rate per vehicle and do as many runs as possible.

article 3 pct g from reg 561/2006

your role is excepted from reg 561/2006

This Regulation shall not apply to carriage by road by:
g) Vehicles undergoing road tests for technical development, repair or maintenance purposes and new or rebuilt vehicles which have not yet been put into service;

g) The nature and purpose of the journey being undertaken must be established (by questioning the driver) to verify application of this exemption. The on board equipment and nature of any load being carried may give an indication that this exemption may not apply. This exemption does not apply when taking a vehicle to a compulsory periodic test. Typical examples of exempt activity could be a mechanic engaged in a journey to check the satisfactory repair of a vehicle’s steering. New vehicles undergoing development checks are exempt.
Rebuilt (or re-engineered) vehicles undergoing pre-use road tests are exempt.

I did some plating and was told that it was exempt. I still recorded my movements manually and pretty much adhered to the rules. Just in case

cav551:
I expect that you will be fine unless you happen to drive past Alex Nairn while they are filming. He of course will have been swotting up for his Sergeant’s Exam so the temptation will be too hard to resist. :slight_smile:

Who the ■■■ alex nairn ? A golfer :laughing: surely u mean angus nairn the no1 traffic cop in the midlands :open_mouth:

ROG:
Exempt tacho for what you are doing

if he’s exempt tacho Rog then surely he comes under domestic driving regulations; in which case breaks would still have to be taken?

largebloke1969:

cav551:
I expect that you will be fine unless you happen to drive past Alex Nairn while they are filming. He of course will have been swotting up for his Sergeant’s Exam so the temptation will be too hard to resist. :slight_smile:

Who the [zb] alex nairn ? A golfer :laughing: surely u mean angus nairn the no1 traffic cop in the midlands :open_mouth:

You wrote Midlands when you obviously meant to write World. :smiley:

Sidevalve:

ROG:
Exempt tacho for what you are doing

if he’s exempt tacho Rog then surely he comes under domestic driving regulations; in which case breaks would still have to be taken?

Breaks? On Domestic!? You’re having a laugh :laughing: :laughing: