Please, someone tell me how long a DCPC card lasts.
My case: I have inherited rights (to 2014, obviously). If I take my 35 hours of training and acquire my DCPC card, how long will it last?
Is it:
A reference to the actual legislation would be appreciated, too.
Thanks
Alan
5 years from issued I would imagine as that is when you completed your 35 hours.
Your DQC will be valid for five years from the expiry of your acquired rights, i.e. September 2019.
The legislation is EU Directive 2003/59, which is transposed into UK law by The Vehicle Drivers (Certificates of Professional Competence) Regulations 2007 (SI 2007/605). Be aware that there are various amendments to the UK regulations - unfortunately no freely available web site carries consolidated texts of Statutory Instruments incorporating all amendments.
If you attempt to read the Directive and have no experience of EU law, it is best to ignore all the ‘Whereas’ section, which is explanatory, and start reading at ‘HAVING ADOPTED THIS DIRECTIVE’.
OnlyAlan:
Please, someone tell me how long a DCPC card lasts.
My case: I have inherited rights (to 2014, obviously). If I take my 35 hours of training and acquire my DCPC card, how long will it last?Is it:
For 5 years from the date it is issued.
For 5 years from Sept 2014…✓
Something else.
A reference to the actual legislation would be appreciated, too.
Thanks
Alan
You must do 35 hours training before September 9th 2014, the 35 hours periodic training you do now takes you up-to 2019.
The 35 hours training you do between September 2014 and September 2019 will take you up-to 2024
Excellent, a definitive answer - just what I needed, thank you.
Alan
Thats unless you have a PCV licence in which case its a year earlier so you need to do it by September 2013 then it lasts till 2018
Madguy. 
madguy:
Thats unless you have a PCV licence in which case its a year earlier so you need to do it by September 2013 then it lasts till 2018Madguy.
Ahh, not necessarily so.
Based upon a friend’s PCV DCPC (can I have a vowel, please?):
He took the 5 day course and his DCPC card shows all classes (including CE, which he doesn’t even have a driving licence for) and it expires 09/09/2019.
I guess this may be because he has a C1+E (grandfather rights) on his driving licence, but that is just my guess.
This is partly what prompted my original question.
This is the case. I’ve held both licences for a year or two and completed 35 hours dcpc at a very fine school in Mansfield! A few days later the card arrived with all classes expiring Sept 2019.
So that’s all good!
All the best, Pete 
Let me revise.
If like me you came with a PCV licence and then did HGV, and had grandfather rights, you must do your CPC before 2013 not 2014 as the cpc for PCV came in 12 months earleir to HGV.
If you then do cpc that will take your entitelment until 2019 not 2018 as your doing a hgv cpc not a PCV cpc.
Have I lost you yet■■?
If I do the cpc now my entitelment will last untill 2019 but I have to do it before Sept 2013 due to the PCV licence not 2014 as HGV.
However if I hadnt done the HGV I would have to do my cpc before 2013 which would then last until 2018 as PCV only.
There you go, clear as mud.
Madguy
No exactly right, psv holders only ( no lgv entitlement) have to do 35 hours by the sept 2013 deadline but the are being given 6 years on the first one to bring them all into line. 
Noworries:
No exactly right, psv holders only ( no lgv entitlement) have to do 35 hours by the sept 2013 deadline but the are being given 6 years on the first one to bring them all into line.
Does this happen automatically? i only ask because i was checking this out with VOSA last week and they didnt say that?
Cheers Madguy
Noworries:
No exactly right, psv holders only ( no lgv entitlement) have to do 35 hours by the sept 2013 deadline but the are being given 6 years on the first one to bring them all into line.
That’s not what Regulation 9(2)(a) of the 2007 Regulations says - periodic DCPC is required by 10 September 2013 for those who got their PCV DCPC via acquired rights (i.e. via Regulation 4(7)(a)).
What I can’t find clearly expressed in the regulations is what happens when a driver who has different expiry dates for PCV and LGV DCPC takes his or her next block of 35 hours periodic training. Peter Smythe has explained it in the past, but I’m still unclear - that’s not Peter’s fault so much as an apparent lacuna in the regulations.
The UK will have an unusually high number of drivers with both PCV and LGV DCPC because of all the PCV drivers who gained C1 entitlement with a pre-1997 car test and therefore gained LGV initial DCPC via acquired rights. I don’t believe any other EU country handed out any vocational categories ‘for free’ like this.
djw:
Noworries:
No exactly right, psv holders only ( no lgv entitlement) have to do 35 hours by the sept 2013 deadline but the are being given 6 years on the first one to bring them all into line.That’s not what Regulation 9(2)(a) of the 2007 Regulations says - periodic DCPC is required by 10 September 2013 for those who got their PCV DCPC via acquired rights (i.e. via Regulation 4(7)(a)).
What I can’t find clearly expressed in the regulations is what happens when a driver who has different expiry dates for PCV and LGV DCPC takes his or her next block of 35 hours periodic training. Peter Smythe has explained it in the past, but I’m still unclear - that’s not Peter’s fault so much as an apparent lacuna in the regulations.
The UK will have an unusually high number of drivers with both PCV and LGV DCPC because of all the PCV drivers who gained C1 entitlement with a pre-1997 car test and therefore gained LGV initial DCPC via acquired rights. I don’t believe any other EU country handed out any vocational categories ‘for free’ like this.
That basically what I was told by VOSA.
because i already had a PCV pre 1997 and now did my HGV, i will have to do my cpc before 2013 which will then give me entitellment until 2019, if i hadnt done my HGV and just did my cpc for PCV it would only be valid till 2018…
Clear,i dont think so
Madguy
Well, I have had to read all these posts twice (including my original question) but I think I have got it at last.
Thanks to you all for the help.
Alan
OnlyAlan:
Well, I have had to read all these posts twice (including my original question) but I think I have got it at last.
Thanks to you all for the help.
Alan
If you got it please explain it to me?
Madguy.