Driver CPC do we realy need it. I think that evey driver in the country should park up in protest on having to do a CPC (in the name of road safty) yes as if that’s going to make the roads safer.
Them that do not won’t to park up for a day go to London and block the city of for the day in stead.
We are just getting ripped of yet again. 
steverospa:
Driver CPC do we realy need it.
In it’s current format - NO
If a CPC for drivers is going to be brought in then it should reflect exactly what drivers want and need.
Classroom for drivers hours, the basic driving laws & basic first aid might be good. +EDIT (as I’ve just spotted coffeeholics post below) - a Highway Code refresher 
Yard work for teaching things like roping, chaining etc may be good for some.
But what is the thing that drivers do most of 
= DRIVE 
- without an on-road driving element to it then it is useless - it would be like doing a CHEF CPC without any cooking
steverospa:
Driver CPC do we realy need it.
Based on some recent postings on here sadly I think we do.
No just another government scheme to rip us off, when do we all need to have it by 2013? there is going to be a lot of drivers hang up there keys for the last time as they have no intrest in taking it and the industry will find itself with the biggest driver shortage there has ever been. So much for helping our industry!
ROG:
steverospa:
Driver CPC do we realy need it.In it’s current format - NO
if you look at what courses will be available in Sept, you will see that there is courses of these you refer to in your post,
and you most remember that if the employer is paying then there will have the training that suites there needs.
and if you are paying then you take the ones that suite you
and if you look at this you will see some courses that in IMO look worth the money as there get you out of the classroom and in a truck
steverospa:
Drivers CPC do we realy need it
Do we need it: Yes.
Will it achieve anything in its current form: I doubt it.
A missed opportunity to raise the profile and skill level of today’s drivers in my opinion.
I mean how will sitting in a classroom staring at the ceiling for 35 hours make anyone a better or more proficient driver 
I suspect some of us will rather reluctantly make the most of it whilst others probably won’t 
Looking on the bright side it will raise some revenue for the government 
delboytwo:
if you look at what courses will be available in Sept, you will see that there is courses of these you refer to in your post,
True - there are a few but only the classroom ones - no practicals which is what truckers do lots of.
delboytwo:
and if you look at this you will see some courses that in IMO look worth the money as there get you out of the classroom and in a truck
It does not say in the text of that link that anything will be accreditted to the DRIVER CPC and it seems to be all off-road.
ROG:
delboytwo:
if you look at what courses will be available in Sept, you will see that there is courses of these you refer to in your post,True - there are a few but only the classroom ones - no practicals which is what truckers do lots of.
delboytwo:
and if you look at this you will see some courses that in IMO look worth the money as there get you out of the classroom and in a truckIt does not say in the text of that link that anything will be accreditted to the DRIVER CPC and it seems to be all off-road.
this is there courses on the cpc as you will see there are accreditted to the driver cpc
I have spoken to some bod at the DSA about the cpc, and ask wot will some body like me learn?
I’m not a class room academic and had no exams when I left school but hand on I’m not to sure wot they can tell me. Not 35 hours worth. I am a Rospa gold driver and rider LGV driver. DSA driving instuctor and driving asser, Iv been involved with driver training for ten years and trained car and motor cycle driver /riders and been assing drivers at risk for meny years (taxi , van, lorry, reps etc)
I’m also a first aider , as for rope & sheet I have no interest wot so ever.
Iv also been Eco driveing as well.
As Rog said I do think the cpc if it comes in should be driver based ONLY.
delboytwo:
this is there courses on the cpc as you will see there are accreditted to the driver cpc
Have rang Merc and asked them about the content of these 2 courses but the chap who can tell me is out at the moment so I’m awaiting a call back from them.
Will update later…
UPDATE -
They rang me back and WHOOPEE
They are offering a 1 day (7 hours) or 2 day (14 hours) JAUPT approved DRIVER CPC course(s) which is MAINLY non-classroom 
Apparently, they have been running these courses for years and are going to go countrywide with them soon.
mercedes-benzdrivertraining.co.uk/ is their website and after entering the site, click ‘Current Courses’ then ‘On Site Courses’ to see what it entails - the price does not include VAT.
They are also putting together an ‘In the yard’ type course for load securing etc so that too will be mainly non-classroom.
Can anyone else find some more non-classroom courses
like i said in my earlier post, there is some good courses were you don’t have to sit on your bum and go to sleep
and if i am paying i would want something usefull.
the driver CPC is good as we all need to better are training, cos some employers just don’t bother and just give you the keys and say get on with it
delboytwo:
like i said in my earlier post, there is some good courses were you don’t have to sit on your bum and go to sleepand if i am paying i would want something usefull.
the driver CPC is good as we all need to better are training, cos some employers just don’t bother and just give you the keys and say get on with it
Training can be good if it pinpoints what is needed, when it is needed and then delivered in a correct and interesting way for the trainee - a bored trainee learns very little and can then lose interest in any further training.
I think most will agree some parts of the CPC (D) will be a good thing.
As said the current format is flawed just like the position of TM’s been to Uni and aint got a clue on how transport really works.
Its been said time and time again
Drivers hours YES
Loading and security Yes
Basic First Aid Yes
Highway Code Yes
All could be in 2 parts 1st part class room 2nd part on the road.
Are the border controls gonna check all drivers entering the country to make sure our EU counter parts have kept upto date
Answer I doubt it
One more thing about the CPC is the extra cost to agence drivers owner drivers etc WHO PAYING yes the driver
The Tesco drivers eddie stobarts and the bigger companys the drivers will not pay a bean.
steverospa:
One more thing about the CPC is the extra cost to agence drivers owner drivers etc WHO PAYING yes the driver
The Tesco drivers eddie stobarts and the bigger companys the drivers will not pay a bean.
And those working for the big boys will get paid for doing it whereas the others you mentioned will lose wages.
Have just completed the first 7hrs of the “cpc” for psv,s and to be quite honest even the instuctor stated that you will probably be doing what he was going to bring up any way,there were a few that probably for one reason or another needed this as they were oblivious to certain rules/regs/laws,including speed limits for the vehicles that they drove on certain roads ( and no disrespect or offence meant to them in saying this),we had half a day in class and then the second half was actually out on the road for about an hour and driving assessed,but to be quite honest and brutal they need to get in to the real world as the way they wanted or expected you to drive and their daft times on timetables then it means that one is working against the other ,still not to worry i suppose they know best
roddersdad:
…we had half a day in class and then the second half was actually out on the road for about an hour and driving assessed,…
At least you did not have to spend 7 hours in a classroom
Does sound like it was a bit ‘idealistic’