Not the usual slating and slagging, just a blog on how the other half live…
Jesus… Seen the salaries and hours??
That’s what happens when you stick together unlike truck drivers
franklin:
Jesus… Seen the salaries and hours??
why not train to be a hgv driver? guaranteed work. 48 hours a week with earnings topping £30k…
pfft… dont believe everything you read mate
thelorryist:
franklin:
Jesus… Seen the salaries and hours??why not train to be a hgv driver? guaranteed work. 48 hours a week with earnings topping £30k…
pfft… dont believe everything you read mate
i think there’s a difference between a training company saying “come train with us to be … and earn £■■■” and a list stating individual companies, salary, hours and average days worked.
firstgroup.hua.hrsmart.com/ats/ … reqid=3964 = whilst training is £18,218, rising to £38,974 upon satisfactory completion of all training and passing out as a newly qualified driver.
stevie
stevieboy308:
thelorryist:
franklin:
Jesus… Seen the salaries and hours??why not train to be a hgv driver? guaranteed work. 48 hours a week with earnings topping £30k…
pfft… dont believe everything you read mate
i think there’s a difference between a training company saying “come train with us to be … and earn £■■■” and a list stating individual companies, salary, hours and average days worked.
firstgroup.hua.hrsmart.com/ats/ … reqid=3964 = whilst training is £18,218, rising to £38,974 upon satisfactory completion of all training and passing out as a newly qualified driver.
stevie
But it isn’t just a 3 or 4 day training programme with a simple test at the end
mac12:
That’s what happens when you stick together unlike truck drivers
bull ■■■■, different kettle of fish, for a start, you can’t rock up at your local independent train driver school and a week or 2 later be pedaling the intercity 125.
stevie
You would struggle as a white male to get a job on the trains, it seems like a bit of a closed shop, even the bosses name is Aslef
Are there no east Europeans that could do this job cheaper, or what about the two job brigade that dont need any rest time from their main job .
stevieboy308:
mac12:
That’s what happens when you stick together unlike truck driversbull [zb], different kettle of fish, for a start, you can’t rock up at your local independent train driver school and a week or 2 later be pedaling the intercity 125.
stevie
true but you can stick together when trained,look at the underground drivers £800 a week double time and day in loo for working bank holidays but still wanted extra £500 to work boxing day.
How many truck drivers worked boxing day for normal money,maybe as low as £60
mac12:
true but you can stick together when trained,look at the underground drivers £800 a week double time and day in loo for working bank holidays but still wanted extra £500 to work boxing day.
How many truck drivers worked boxing day for normal money,maybe as low as £60
Is that like spending a penny?
I wouldn’t get out of bed for £60 on Boxing day and I doubt many others did
Wheel Nut:
mac12:
true but you can stick together when trained,look at the underground drivers £800 a week double time and day in loo for working bank holidays but still wanted extra £500 to work boxing day.
How many truck drivers worked boxing day for normal money,maybe as low as £60Is that like spending a penny?
I wouldn’t get out of bed for £60 on Boxing day and I doubt many others did
i reckon he means lieu don’t c’ha think 
brilliant link , i clicked on the train drivers jobs & vacancies bit & found i could work from home for £93 per hour ,do some HGV driver training, or re-train as an electrician, encouraging stuff eh ?
thats what i meant never noticed what i put
mac12:
stevieboy308:
mac12:
That’s what happens when you stick together unlike truck driversbull [zb], different kettle of fish, for a start, you can’t rock up at your local independent train driver school and a week or 2 later be pedaling the intercity 125.
stevie
true but you can stick together when trained,look at the underground drivers £800 a week double time and day in loo for working bank holidays but still wanted extra £500 to work boxing day.
How many truck drivers worked boxing day for normal money,maybe as low as £60
i’d say the vast majority of bank holidays i’ve worked were at double time and a day in lieu, as the bank holiday makes up your holiday entitlement.
ok, all drivers go on strike until we get £800 per week for 40 hours etc. after a week or so we get it, great! then all these other people that are currently stacking shelves, fixing cars, laying bricks etc. think, hang on a minute, i’m gonna get me some of that. a couple of grand and a couple of weeks later they’ve got a hgv licence along with plenty of others and do you really need me to tell you what happens when the supply of drivers out strips the demand? as i’ve said, you can’t just go out and get yourself a train licence, never mind the bit about a couple of grand in a couple of weeks.
the other factor is because drivers wages have doubled then the price of transport has to increase, everything you and everybody else buys increases, everybody needs a wage rise to cope with the increase, so inflation just wiped out your pay rise or what was left of it after the increased supply of drivers made it’s mark.
artificial increase.
the irony is that the 2 things that have the best chance of improving drivers wages are being slated by drivers and ■■■■■■■■ real drivers saying they’re not going to comply! that’s right folks, the WTD and the DCPC imho have by far the best chance of improving wages and in real terms at that. the WTD means the country needs more drivers, increased demand. the trouble is it’ll mean a wage cut, due to less hours for some in the short term. (yes i know plenty of people can still do 80 hours a week with the use of poa blaa, blaa, but plenty can’t)
the DCPC is making it more expensive and time consuming to obtain a hgv licence, that can only mean less people obtaining a licence. it also means that the number of people that don’t do much driving and don’t do it for their main source of income will be reduced as for most they’d have to pay for it themselves and it’ll not be worth it. so therefore there’ll be less drivers, reduced supply.
couple them 2 with the fact that car drivers that passed on or after the 1st jan 1997 don’t have the 7.5t entitlement has in the next 5 or 10 years got to start making a dent.
supply and demand, the market, genuine increase.
the future could be quite bright for drivers.
stevie
My mate applied for a job with Connex and was invited to do the tests and interview in London. He was rejected as an applicant without even getting through the door because he arrived late. He arrived late because the Connex train he went to London on broke down. I think that’s called “irony”.
Most of what you say is true maybe we carnt have £800 for 40 hours but maybe we could have £400 for 40.I no someone on £52 for 1st 9 hours class 1 that carn’t be right
mac12:
Most of what you say is true maybe we carnt have £800 for 40 hours but maybe we could have £400 for 40.I no someone on £52 for 1st 9 hours class 1 that carn’t be right
The market decides. How do you work your 400 bucks for 40 hours idea? Of course I think £52 for the first 9 is terrible, but he’s doing it.
Does he at least get a fancy megatrotterline with more lights than something with a lot of lights 
Stevie
Wheel Nut:
But it isn’t just a 3 or 4 day training programme with a simple test at the end
Bit more to it than that. One of the reasons train drivers (and their unions) exert the level of control they do is that if a driver doesn’t turn up you can’t just phone an agency * and get another. They are trained on specific routes, and unless you’ve been passed out for a particular stretch of railway then you can’t drive on it; simple as that. Same goes for locomotive type.
H&S is far tighter too, and rightly so. As anyone who’s done trackside will know a PTS certificate is the minimum requirement, and railway operating staff are subject to random drug and alcohol tests; this even applies to the preserved steam lines.
- (Expects predictable broadside of comments about how lorry drivers’ wages would be better if there were no agencies. Sorry dreamers it don’t work that way!)
mac12:
That’s what happens when you stick together unlike truck drivers
Thats what the tube drivers reckon.Just wait til it’s fully automated.
paul@midway:
mac12:
That’s what happens when you stick together unlike truck driversThats what the tube drivers reckon.Just wait til it’s fully automated.
That potential’s been there on certain lines for ages; the technology’s already in place. It’s the unions who won’t wear it.