Franglais:
Is Brexit affecting the US trucking industry?
“Truckers are getting big pay hikes, but there’s still a shortage of drivers - CNN” amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/05/29/econ … index.html
Less distance work becaue trailers are being run across the country by rail and employers wanting the maximum output from the minimum amount of employees regarding what work they’ve got left.
Which means at worse all the downsides of tramping and local LTL multi drop type work.
Or at best too much of a good thing distance work but too many turn arounds and not enough time at home.
Oh and E logs creating all the same problems as tachos regarding the ability to stop for a break or a have late start without the guvnor knowing about it and no flexibility to get to suitable parking.
I’m beginning to see visible effects of a driver shortage now; was at a customer delivering today and I remarked how quiet their yard was and his response was that suppliers simply can’t get the stock to them because hauliers can’t put bums on seats.
Also, we normally take 50 pallets a day into Langdons for onward delivery, these are single or double pallet deliveries to the back of beyond that’s simply not economically viable for us to tie X number of artics up with. They’ve today stopped us until they can physically clear their massive backlog caused by…… yep, driver shortage. They’ve even restricted Peter Green from putting their normal 250 pallets a day into them to a measly 25 pallets.
the maoster:
I’m beginning to see visible effects of a driver shortage now; was at a customer delivering today and I remarked how quiet their yard was and his response was that suppliers simply can’t get the stock to them because hauliers can’t put bums on seats.
Also, we normally take 50 pallets a day into Langdons for onward delivery, these are single or double pallet deliveries to the back of beyond that’s simply not economically viable for us to tie X number of artics up with. They’ve today stopped us until they can physically clear their massive backlog caused by…… yep, driver shortage. They’ve even restricted Peter Green from putting their normal 250 pallets a day into them to a measly 25 pallets.
the maoster:
I’m beginning to see visible effects of a driver shortage now;
Like every advert and agencies saying new drivers welcome no ‘experience’ necessary.
Semi retired welcome will pay for DCPC and medical no checkable work history required.
Distance work available to choice.
That type of a ‘shortage’ ?.
hughgeorghan:
I never really post on here but I feel compelled to answer Carryfast and his constant reference to Building material/Scaffolding zb (His words).
I myself work for a builders merchant doing local stuff and wouldn’t swap it with any other driving work other than scaffolding work (shock,horror).
The thing is it suits me perfectly. I’m in the gym 4 evenings a week and I actually enjoy the physical aspect of chucking timber and bags of cement/plaster around day in day out.
I’ve done UK distance stuff and hold my C+E so it isn’t the only work I can get, I actually choose to do it.
The thought of a 4 hour drive, 2 hour wait and then pulling back a curtain (exercise for the day) is the stuff of nightmares for me but I accept it’s horses for courses.
The offshoot of this is I’m nothing like the ‘stereotypical’ lorry driver in a physical sense and most people are surprised when I tell them what I do for a living due to how I look and my fitness.
Perhaps If Carryfast had done a bit more handball and a bit less trunking/trailer swaps he wouldn’t have a lower back with the consistency of wet tissue.
A bit of physical graft is beneficial if you do it right, being completely sedentary will destroy your body far more.
Yeah right office workers and train drivers drop like flies before the age of 65.
I get it why waste your time driving trucks for a pittance when you can earn far more as a hod carrier and site labourer with the win win that you’ll be fitter and live longer.
hughgeorghan:
I never really post on here but I feel compelled to answer Carryfast and his constant reference to Building material/Scaffolding zb (His words).
I myself work for a builders merchant doing local stuff and wouldn’t swap it with any other driving work other than scaffolding work (shock,horror).
The thing is it suits me perfectly. I’m in the gym 4 evenings a week and I actually enjoy the physical aspect of chucking timber and bags of cement/plaster around day in day out.
I’ve done UK distance stuff and hold my C+E so it isn’t the only work I can get, I actually choose to do it.
The thought of a 4 hour drive, 2 hour wait and then pulling back a curtain (exercise for the day) is the stuff of nightmares for me but I accept it’s horses for courses.
The offshoot of this is I’m nothing like the ‘stereotypical’ lorry driver in a physical sense and most people are surprised when I tell them what I do for a living due to how I look and my fitness.
Perhaps If Carryfast had done a bit more handball and a bit less trunking/trailer swaps he wouldn’t have a lower back with the consistency of wet tissue.
A bit of physical graft is beneficial if you do it right, being completely sedentary will destroy your body far more.
Yeah right office workers and train drivers drop like flies before the age of 65.
I get it why waste your time driving trucks for a pittance when you can earn far more as a hod carrier and site labourer with the win win that you’ll be fitter and live longer.
Perfect Carryfast reply, ‘you’re living your life entirely the wrong way, I know best even though I’ve not worked for longer than I ever did’ says the man who’s entire life imploded because he was a yes man and unloaded and loaded trucks for all of months. Not minutes, not hours, months. Utter madness
hughgeorghan:
I never really post on here but I feel compelled to answer Carryfast and his constant reference to Building material/Scaffolding zb (His words).
I myself work for a builders merchant doing local stuff and wouldn’t swap it with any other driving work other than scaffolding work (shock,horror).
The thing is it suits me perfectly. I’m in the gym 4 evenings a week and I actually enjoy the physical aspect of chucking timber and bags of cement/plaster around day in day out.
I’ve done UK distance stuff and hold my C+E so it isn’t the only work I can get, I actually choose to do it.
The thought of a 4 hour drive, 2 hour wait and then pulling back a curtain (exercise for the day) is the stuff of nightmares for me but I accept it’s horses for courses.
The offshoot of this is I’m nothing like the ‘stereotypical’ lorry driver in a physical sense and most people are surprised when I tell them what I do for a living due to how I look and my fitness.
Perhaps If Carryfast had done a bit more handball and a bit less trunking/trailer swaps he wouldn’t have a lower back with the consistency of wet tissue.
A bit of physical graft is beneficial if you do it right, being completely sedentary will destroy your body far more.
Yeah right office workers and train drivers drop like flies before the age of 65.
I get it why waste your time driving trucks for a pittance when you can earn far more as a hod carrier and site labourer with the win win that you’ll be fitter and live longer.
Perfect Carryfast reply, ‘you’re living your life entirely the wrong way, I know best even though I’ve not worked for longer than I ever did’ says the man who’s entire life imploded because he was a yes man and unloaded and loaded trucks for all of months. Not minutes, not hours, months. Utter madness
To be fair even UPS didn’t try to say that I needed to work as a warehouse labourer for the benefit of my health.
If I was a yes man I obviously would have taken that view myself.Instead of which why did it take disciplinary action to get me to do it.Oh wait it was the union that said yes not me.You do understand the legalities of a collective union agreement.
Employers whingeing about a shortage of drivers… who want to work as labourers supposedly for some excercise to keep fit.
They couldn’t make it up.
Hod carrier made me smile, when was the last time there was hod carriers running up and down ladders and across single scaffold boards on a site. H&S it’s all telehandlers now lifting it up on to the scaffold or lifts in a barrow. Nice blast from the past though.
I recall some guy talking on TV back in the 1970s about how he was making a fortune as a hod carrier.
As I remember it, a hod carrier was employed by a brickie to keep him supplied with materials. This guy was able to keep up with two brickies so earned double what was already a good rate.
Odd days:
Hod carrier made me smile, when was the last time there was hod carriers running up and down ladders and across single scaffold boards on a site. H&S it’s all telehandlers now lifting it up on to the scaffold or lifts in a barrow. Nice blast from the past though.
Yep drive a scaffold truck sit back and watch it all unload, load, erect and strike itself by telehandler.
The same with shuttering.
No such thing as the job of site labourer and ‘drivers’ expected to handball building materials on site and in the yard when they aren’t ‘driving’ a few miles around the local streets.
Oh wait I thought someone said the excercise is beneficial to your health.
So which is it.
Oh wait. uk.jobrapido.com/construction-hod-carrier-jobs totaljobs.com/jobs/driver%20labourer
hughgeorghan:
I never really post on here but I feel compelled to answer Carryfast and his constant reference to Building material/Scaffolding zb (His words).
I myself work for a builders merchant doing local stuff and wouldn’t swap it with any other driving work other than scaffolding work (shock,horror).
The thing is it suits me perfectly. I’m in the gym 4 evenings a week and I actually enjoy the physical aspect of chucking timber and bags of cement/plaster around day in day out.
I’ve done UK distance stuff and hold my C+E so it isn’t the only work I can get, I actually choose to do it.
The thought of a 4 hour drive, 2 hour wait and then pulling back a curtain (exercise for the day) is the stuff of nightmares for me but I accept it’s horses for courses.
The offshoot of this is I’m nothing like the ‘stereotypical’ lorry driver in a physical sense and most people are surprised when I tell them what I do for a living due to how I look and my fitness.
Perhaps If Carryfast had done a bit more handball and a bit less trunking/trailer swaps he wouldn’t have a lower back with the consistency of wet tissue.
A bit of physical graft is beneficial if you do it right, being completely sedentary will destroy your body far more.
Yeah right office workers and train drivers drop like flies before the age of 65.
I get it why waste your time driving trucks for a pittance when you can earn far more as a hod carrier and site labourer with the win win that you’ll be fitter and live longer.
Perfect Carryfast reply, ‘you’re living your life entirely the wrong way, I know best even though I’ve not worked for longer than I ever did’ says the man who’s entire life imploded because he was a yes man and unloaded and loaded trucks for all of months. Not minutes, not hours, months. Utter madness
To be fair even UPS didn’t try to say that I needed to work as a warehouse labourer for the benefit of my health.
If I was a yes man I obviously would have taken that view myself.Instead of which why did it take disciplinary action to get me to do it.Oh wait it was the union that said yes not me.You do understand the legalities of a collective union agreement.
Employers whingeing about a shortage of drivers… who want to work as labourers supposedly for some excercise to keep fit.
They couldn’t make it up.
Disciplinary action to destroy your health and destroy your career in the prime of your life. You couldn’t make it up.
Won’t be long before HGV driving is put onto a skills shortage list and EE drivers will be allowed in to resolve the shortage. I just saw an article about the RHA proposing a 12 point plan to tackle the shortage. The first point is…
…you guessed it.
Include HGV drivers on the government’s skilled worker shortage occupation list
Coronavirus recovery – a seasonal visa scheme for qualified HGV drivers
Continued priority driving tests for HGV drivers
Establish a ‘Return to HGV Driving’ scheme
Better promotion of the job and the sector as a whole
Apprenticeship funding gap for C+E drivers in England and Wales
Apprenticeships for Class C drivers
An SME-focused HGV driver training scheme
An independent HGV independent training loan scheme
Other training schemes – DWP pilots/Road to Logistics
Increase productivity of the road network
Improve site productivity and the treatment of drivers at collection and delivery points
ezydriver:
Won’t be long before HGV driving is put onto a skills shortage list and EE drivers will be allowed in to resolve the shortage. I just saw an article about the RHA proposing a 12 point plan to tackle the shortage. The first point is…
…you guessed it.
Include HGV drivers on the government’s skilled worker shortage occupation list
Coronavirus recovery – a seasonal visa scheme for qualified HGV drivers
Continued priority driving tests for HGV drivers
Establish a ‘Return to HGV Driving’ scheme
Better promotion of the job and the sector as a whole
Apprenticeship funding gap for C+E drivers in England and Wales
Apprenticeships for Class C drivers
An SME-focused HGV driver training scheme
An independent HGV independent training loan scheme
Other training schemes – DWP pilots/Road to Logistics
Increase productivity of the road network
Improve site productivity and the treatment of drivers at collection and delivery points
To be fair even UPS didn’t try to say that I needed to work as a warehouse labourer for the benefit of my health.
If I was a yes man I obviously would have taken that view myself.Instead of which why did it take disciplinary action to get me to do it.Oh wait it was the union that said yes not me.You do understand the legalities of a collective union agreement.
Employers whingeing about a shortage of drivers… who want to work as labourers supposedly for some excercise to keep fit.
They couldn’t make it up.
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Ha Haaaa! I had a 2 year break from driving and actually did site work/general labouring. It was a breath of fresh air after 20 years of driving. In real terms I was probably 50 quid a week worse off but was only working 37.5 hours compared to 55+ driving.
I’m guessing you must be in your 60’s Carryfast? If you couldn’t make a success of driving in the 80’s & 90’s when British haulage was booming you must have been pretty useless.
