Many echoes of our situation here
uk.news.yahoo.com/trucking-comp … 00526.html
A one-off bonus doesn’t make up for the long-term decline in T&C.
UK employers need to read and learn.
With The Donald personally shooting the ■■■■ off aliens there will be even bigger shortages
GasGas:
Many echoes of our situation hereuk.news.yahoo.com/trucking-comp … 00526.html
A one-off bonus doesn’t make up for the long-term decline in T&C.
UK employers need to read and learn.
The main factor is not just what pay rates are today. It’s what they will be in another 5 years time if you commit to the job, or what they were when you were a plucky 20-something still looking around for a career.
Long-distance trucking is a certain kind of lifestyle and culture - it requires habituation and adaptation (similar, for example, to being a career soldier). If you’re going to be away for weeks at a time, firstly you want bloody good money to show for it, but you also need friends who don’t expect to go on the ■■■■ every weekend, and you need a wife who has a separate social life and doesn’t mind you being an absent breadwinner. These are social and lifestyle constraints that, once firmly acquired, people often won’t give up for anything, let alone 20% on their wage, because they form part of the reasons they go to work in the first place.
The problem for the US industry, moreso even than our own I imagine, is that they’re expecting to pay 20% more and suddenly solve a problem that has been fermenting for years or decades, and workers know ■■■■ well that as soon as the problem is seen by the bosses to be temporarily solved, wages will fall back through the floor again. So nobody sees it as an option to commit to.
The sort of workers that are most likely to respond to money incentives and take risks with their lifestyle and have fewer constraints, are the youngest workers who are also most disfavored by the industry.
Did anybody watch that sky report top right corner headed
Police: No-deal Brexit to bring unrest and rationing
Accurate eye opener or more remain scaremongering ?
No…just more scaremongering…
I tell you what, we’ll just bypass Brussels and negotiate direct with Berlin. They will be the easiest negotiations ever. It will only take an afternoon.
Or that’s what was said before the vote…
Along with we’ll get Brussels off our backs but still be part of the Single Market.
Rjan:
GasGas:
Many echoes of our situation hereuk.news.yahoo.com/trucking-comp … 00526.html
A one-off bonus doesn’t make up for the long-term decline in T&C.
UK employers need to read and learn.
The main factor is not just what pay rates are today. It’s what they will be in another 5 years time if you commit to the job, or what they were when you were a plucky 20-something still looking around for a career.
Long-distance trucking is a certain kind of lifestyle and culture - it requires habituation and adaptation (similar, for example, to being a career soldier). If you’re going to be away for weeks at a time, firstly you want bloody good money to show for it, but you also need friends who don’t expect to go on the ■■■■ every weekend, and you need a wife who has a separate social life and doesn’t mind you being an absent breadwinner. These are social and lifestyle constraints that, once firmly acquired, people often won’t give up for anything, let alone 20% on their wage, because they form part of the reasons they go to work in the first place.
The problem for the US industry, moreso even than our own I imagine, is that they’re expecting to pay 20% more and suddenly solve a problem that has been fermenting for years or decades, and workers know ■■■■ well that as soon as the problem is seen by the bosses to be temporarily solved, wages will fall back through the floor again. So nobody sees it as an option to commit to.
The sort of workers that are most likely to respond to money incentives and take risks with their lifestyle and have fewer constraints, are the youngest workers who are also most disfavored by the industry.
Also, the industry there is always going on about driverless trucks…it really doesn’t help.
pierrot 14:
Did anybody watch that sky report top right corner headedPolice: No-deal Brexit to bring unrest and rationing
Accurate eye opener or more remain scaremongering ?
In fairness you did have people dialling 999 because KFC ran out of chicken earlier in the year so it might not be far off…
Wayyyy off topic here, but when I first moved to Gloucester there was a minor earth tremor one night. Just enough to rattle the wardrobe.
The local radio next morning did a phone-in. Many of the callers complained that the police had done nothing to warn them that an ‘earthquake’ was on the way. They also complained that the police and fire brigade did not respond to the 999 calls they had made.
GasGas:
Also, the industry there is always going on about driverless trucks…it really doesn’t help.
Especially as Uber have closed down their autonomous truck program, which makes you wonder considering the potential profits being the first on the market and considering the publicity they had over the first autonomous delivery and the regular runs from California to Arizona, but despite all the publicity, all these were at level 2, basically Tesla and other car level, which still requires a driver to be present ready to take over control and required to drive once off the freeway.
muckles:
GasGas:
Also, the industry there is always going on about driverless trucks…it really doesn’t help.Especially as Uber have closed down their autonomous truck program, which makes you wonder considering the potential profits being the first on the market and considering the publicity they had over the first autonomous delivery and the regular runs from California to Arizona, but despite all the publicity, all these were at level 2, basically Tesla and other car level, which still requires a driver to be present ready to take over control and required to drive once off the freeway.
China level 4…
m.futurecar.com/2315/Chinas-Suni … mous-Truck
The new Actros is level 2 straight out of the box…
The Otto/Ubber drivers complained that ‘not driving’ was far more stressful than driving, as they never knew when the truck would get itself into a situation it couldn’t get out of …then hand back control to them!
idrive:
muckles:
GasGas:
Also, the industry there is always going on about driverless trucks…it really doesn’t help.Especially as Uber have closed down their autonomous truck program, which makes you wonder considering the potential profits being the first on the market and considering the publicity they had over the first autonomous delivery and the regular runs from California to Arizona, but despite all the publicity, all these were at level 2, basically Tesla and other car level, which still requires a driver to be present ready to take over control and required to drive once off the freeway.
China level 4…
m.futurecar.com/2315/Chinas-Suni … mous-Truck
If you read more, you’ll find the testing was on private roads, Shanghai recently became the first Chinese city to issue of licences for on road testing of autonomous trucks, but only on 37kms of its network.
Also level 4 still only means autonomous operation under certain weather and road conditions, but does mean the driver doesn’t have to be ready to take control immediately.
And I do know that research is continuing and I believe the new Actros is considered to be at level 2 in certain conditions as it can both steer and brake itself, but my point was more that Uber who bought the Otto autonomous truck company and were very vocal about their progress in autonomous truck research have dropped the program.
Not disagreeing mate, just seems China is ahead compared to the likes of Uber and Tesla.
Musk especially is full of bull like this
youtu.be/GotA_1dIRhs
Is this any different from UK agencies offering big bucks at Christmas time?
I know very little about the yanks, but think you will find they work a lot lot longer hours than uk citizens, their money aint that good, they have to have private medical and they also have something like 2 weeks annual leave!
Drivers are allowed to work 70 hours a week then have to take at least 34 hours off before they do another 70. In a civilized world that would be 30 hours overtime but most truckers are paid by the mile with no increase after 40 hrs.
That Walmart bonus in the article is just for a Walmart driver who refers a new driver and they have to stay for 6 months, i think they’d get more applicants if they gave the bonus to new drivers but then again i’m not one of them Einstein’s in the office. 