Great then they’ll obviously have no problem in opening up their driver labour market to Brits.Bearing in mind that Brits are familiar with the language and the Anglo Saxon culture.With the win win that,unlike low wage expectation Mexican and Asian immigration,it would be less likely to put downward pressure on wage levels.No surprise that doesn’t fit the script or the real agenda.
There is a driver shortage agreed but don’t get all excited because you are not going to get a job here unless you have legal residence status.
Don’t fall for the scams telling you they will get you a job, they will ask for money to conduct a legal search, then tell you sorry but you don’t qualify and keep your money, or a company like Schneider will offer training via a special university (the university is not real) They will get you to come over for two years and put you in a team truck with some smelly git for the entire term of duty and pay you the lowest pay in the country with not a single day’s holiday in all that time, then when the term is up you might have just enough to fly home again and if you get sick you are screwed, on your own with a hospital bill over $25k a night. Don’t get taken in please.
Pat Hasler:
There is a driver shortage agreed but don’t get all excited because you are not going to get a job here unless you have legal residence status.
Don’t fall for the scams telling you they will get you a job, they will ask for money to conduct a legal search, then tell you sorry but you don’t qualify and keep your money, or a company like Schneider will offer training via a special university (the university is not real) They will get you to come over for two years and put you in a team truck with some smelly git for the entire term of duty and pay you the lowest pay in the country with not a single day’s holiday in all that time, then when the term is up you might have just enough to fly home again and if you get sick you are screwed, on your own with a hospital bill over $25k a night. Don’t get taken in please.
Pat, you should be flattered, you’ve only just mentioned you’re retiring shortly, and already there’s a panic shortage!!
Regards Kev.
Almost a 100% turnover of new drivers in the big transport companies! Hello! Faced with figures like that you’d think someone would wake up and smell the coffee but no. The solution, as always, is to revert to cheap imported labour. Scour the planet for economies that are in the toilet with mass unemployment, no benefits system, a desperate population living in self constructed shanty towns etc, etc, then invite them to do the work that educated and less desperate people have decided is beyond the pale and rightly so. Add to this the inevitable culture clash that follows due to resentment from the indigenous population when they see those jobs being filled with the result being further stagnation of terms and conditions of, initially, in this instance, the rewards for a truck driver but with the knowledge there will be further impact on other sectors to come. It’s happened here for the last 20 years with the influx from the EU. It’s not the fault of the migrants though and I wish everyone would realise that. It IS the fault of big business with their CONSTANT push for a return to shareholders made possible by the corruption of our political masters getting into bed with them. They are having a negative impact on cultures and countries at both ends of the migrant journey.
Carryfast:
Great then they’ll obviously have no problem in opening up their driver labour market to Brits.Bearing in mind that Brits are familiar with the language and the Anglo Saxon culture.With the win win that,unlike low wage expectation Mexican and Asian immigration,it would be less likely to put downward pressure on wage levels.No surprise that doesn’t fit the script or the real agenda.
We agree! Really gets on my moobs that as a Brit I’d have a better chance of living and working in the US if I was from Pakistan/India/Afghanistan etc ect. Id have gone over there years ago had it been a possibility
switchlogic:
We agree! Really gets on my moobs that as a Brit I’d have a better chance of living and working in the US if I was from Pakistan/India/Afghanistan etc ect. Id have gone over there years ago had it been a possibility
It’s the same in Australia and Canada.An immigration system based on a PC reverse racist agenda in which I was refused entry to Canada even with a job offer.While Asians were/are allowed to just walk in under the pretence that they have to satisfy the same rules.While even having an established historic relative prescence in the colonies makes no difference if they are considered as being too distant.In my case a Great Aunt and her descendents in Australia for example.Ironically much of that resulting from complaints that the old system,of what was effectively free movement between here and Oz,was supposedly ‘racist’.When by that logic Australia would still be a desert populated by the nomadic natives.If not an Oriental colony not a Brit one.
While the denials,that they aren’t all operating a deliberately rigged quota system,that’s all about maximising the opportunities for the movement of low wage expectation labour,while restricting the movement of high wage expectation labour and a deliberate policy of social engineering to dilute the ethnic Brit demographic in the old colonies,are laughable.
switchlogic:
Carryfast:
Great then they’ll obviously have no problem in opening up their driver labour market to Brits.Bearing in mind that Brits are familiar with the language and the Anglo Saxon culture.With the win win that,unlike low wage expectation Mexican and Asian immigration,it would be less likely to put downward pressure on wage levels.No surprise that doesn’t fit the script or the real agenda.We agree! Really gets on my moobs that as a Brit I’d have a better chance of living and working in the US if I was from Pakistan/India/Afghanistan etc ect. Id have gone over there years ago had it been a possibility
Anything is possible Luke , what’s stopping you ?
flat to the mat:
switchlogic:
We agree! Really gets on my moobs that as a Brit I’d have a better chance of living and working in the US if I was from Pakistan/India/Afghanistan etc ect. Id have gone over there years ago had it been a possibilityAnything is possible Luke , what’s stopping you ?
US immigration rules like those of Canada 30 years ago making the US a no go area for Brits.
Although to be ‘fair’ at least the Canadians did say that they ‘might’ allow me in so long as the job I’d been offered remained advertised and if taken by a Canadian that meant immediate and restrospective repatriation. My reply went along the lines we should have let the French and the Indians ( native and Asian ) have the place.
TiredAndEmotional:
Almost a 100% turnover of new drivers in the big transport companies! Hello! Faced with figures like that you’d think someone would wake up and smell the coffee but no. The solution, as always, is to revert to cheap imported labour. Scour the planet for economies that are in the toilet with mass unemployment, no benefits system, a desperate population living in self constructed shanty towns etc, etc, then invite them to do the work that educated and less desperate people have decided is beyond the pale and rightly so. Add to this the inevitable culture clash that follows due to resentment from the indigenous population when they see those jobs being filled with the result being further stagnation of terms and conditions of, initially, in this instance, the rewards for a truck driver but with the knowledge there will be further impact on other sectors to come. It’s happened here for the last 20 years with the influx from the EU. It’s not the fault of the migrants though and I wish everyone would realise that. It IS the fault of big business with their CONSTANT push for a return to shareholders made possible by the corruption of our political masters getting into bed with them. They are having a negative impact on cultures and countries at both ends of the migrant journey.
ain’t that the truth.
I won’t believe there is a real shortage in any labour market - until the company with the shortage offers a full, relocation package with free accommodation laid on, and sponsorship to get green cards, infinite leave to remain, etc.
How bizarre it is that there are still plenty of people, even in THIS country who would fall for a
“Pay to get your guaranteed job with Puckdriver Training Inc, who will, upon receiving your $3000 payment - take you through every step of the way to becoming a fully nationalized worker in your new host country!” No Refunds. Your membership is for 20 weeks, enough to process the full application via the authorities.
Let’s run you through our parameter… Oh sorry guy. There’s not actually any vacancies in any of the 50 states you’ve expressed an interest working in right now. We’ve got an opening in the Ice Trucking department, but that’s six months away, and you’d have to re submit your six monthly subscription by that point. If you could make your second £3000 remittance? - Or, as you’ve ended your contract with us - we’re done.
<walks away three grand poorer, and you didn’t even meet anyone, let alone attend a genuine job interview, or even get to visit the states, come to that!>
To re-iterate other posters - “If you have to pay anything up-front, for anything at all - IT’S A SCAM!”
Politicians, professional liars that they are, along with their media mouthpiece outlets - shouldn’t aid and abet these scammers, but they do - because most of the scam companies have got politician and lawyer connections of course…
Wot’s a Lawyer?
A person who makes the rules, and knows how to navigate the intentionally built-in loopholes so that the suits always win, and the desperate lose according to their desperation - always.
When there was a shortage of limes in the US in 2014 due to a bacteria ravaging crops in Mexico, where 98% of US bought limes are grown, the wholesale cost of a box of 200 limes went from $30 to $200 in less than a year. If there is a shortage of truck drivers in the US, then why haven’t wages done the same?
…because what’s told to be a “Shortage” is in fact a marketing ploy to get cheap labour to throw itself at the otherwise already saturated local jobs market.
We don’t see Canadians delivering to Mexico or Russians delivering to Cornwall, or Turkish delivering to Northern Ireland - or do we?
The shortage is entirely due to the disgustingly low pay and conditions truck drivers here have to put up with. Large companies such as Swifts, Hunts and Schneiders take on young kids and give them a couple of weeks training, then send them out on the roads for an amazingly low pay rate of 25 cents a mile, each time they sit at a truck stop of a customer waiting for their next load they are not getting a cent, drivers can be waiting for days on end and not get paid a cent. I have seen so many posts on trucknet from those who dream of driving in the USA, it is probably the worst thing anyone can do, no job security, very poor pay and conditions, most companies will not pay you a cent in vacation pay for at least a year, Schneiders will never pay any form of vacation or holiday pay. If your are sick you at on your own, that company will just desert you where you are and forget you.
I am one of the lucky one’s, I work for a truly remarkable company that pay’s for everything.
Winseer:
…because what’s told to be a “Shortage” is in fact a marketing ploy to get cheap labour to throw itself at the otherwise already saturated local jobs market.We don’t see Canadians delivering to Mexico
Ironically the relevant comparison would be East Euros running third country UK-West Euro operations while Mexicans running third country USA - Canada operations seems to be a grey area which in reality probably just doesn’t happen at least yet.
The issue in this case seeming to be all about the selective effective free movement of low wage expectation labour across the English speaking world/colonies.While indigenous Brits are blacked/stopped/hindered from moving freely between UK/Australia/Canada/NZ.
You can bet that the US ‘driver shortage’ is all about more opening up of the US labour market to such selectively applied ‘free labour movement’.A bit like Canada.
Pat Hasler:
The shortage is entirely due to the disgustingly low pay and conditions truck drivers here have to put up with. Large companies such as Swifts, Hunts and Schneiders take on young kids and give them a couple of weeks training, then send them out on the roads for an amazingly low pay rate of 25 cents a mile, each time they sit at a truck stop of a customer waiting for their next load they are not getting a cent, drivers can be waiting for days on end and not get paid a cent. I have seen so many posts on trucknet from those who dream of driving in the USA, it is probably the worst thing anyone can do, no job security, very poor pay and conditions, most companies will not pay you a cent in vacation pay for at least a year, Schneiders will never pay any form of vacation or holiday pay. If your are sick you at on your own, that company will just desert you where you are and forget you.
I am one of the lucky one’s, I work for a truly remarkable company that pay’s for everything.
Strange how our European paradise isn’t flooded with loads of fleeing American ‘refugees’ trying to leave their third world basket case country in that case.But plenty of others trying to leave their’s to get into the States.
Probably because 25 c per mile in a country where it isn’t difficult to cover good miles in a shift through great scenery and often empty roads.With lower housing and living costs in a nice part of rural small town USA.Isn’t that bad after all.Even with the unpaid waiting time,unpaid holidays and Health Insurance premiums.
There are many reasons why there’s a shortage of drivers in the US and none of them are good.
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Sounds like the UK driver shortage. Only firms that struggle or drivers are the ones that offer poor pay and conditions.
newmercman:
There are many reasons why there’s a shortage of drivers in the US and none of them are good.
Harry, I’ve found the old bill and DOT are pretty decent in my experience with them, even the one who nicked me for speeding a couple of years ago, very pleasant and she was as fit as a butcher’s dog, the cop uniform, especially the pants, really highlighted her best features. The accent helps, they think we sound posh and sophisticated and I don’t bother correcting them.
I’m sure there are ways to get into the USA, for a young single bloke that wanted a gap year kind of thing, I would highly recommend it, you’ll break even at worst, but as a career move it would be an extremely bad choice.
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