DCPCFML:
Themoocher:
I don’t think the toss you have just written matters to be honest.
If I don’t like something about the company I work for or dont like the way im getting paid I leave. I don’t stay at a company for 30 years moaning about Same [zb] everyday.
So why are you banging on about unions, strikes and “sticking together” in every post then? If you have all the answers then get on with it and stop worrying about what everyone else is doing.
You can’t educate pork.
Look at trades history over the past 30 years and tell me what’s come better off. compare average wages with unionised trades and non unionised trades. I bet you my left bollock that truck driving is probably stood still the most with pay and conditions.
Themoocher:
But I don’t jump aboit on agency work either as I think for the past 20 years you get messed around to much with agency and it’s not guaranteed money. No holiday pay and messing around as self employed cooking your books and getting massive tax bills 5 years later isn’t my cup of tea.
What a load of ■■■■■■■■. That’s the typical permie excuses you hear day in day out, jealous of the agency guys making bank but don’t have the balls to go and do it themselves. Plenty of guys on here who have done full time agency for over a decade, fully legit and never out of work. That’s because they know how the game works and it’s not hard to get yourself to the top of the pecking order when the majority of the competition doesn’t even bother turning up for the assignment.
I have a pair of ■■■■■■■■ that’s why I aint drove trucks for a living for the past 8 years and only do it to help people out now.
that’s my point the standard of agency that the majority can’t get out of bed.
Themoocher:
I have yet to work anywere or experience anyone on £3 a hour pay difference doing the same job and on the books at a company. only time I have seen it is if the driver earning more money has more tickets or can drive or operate more machines. Not the exact same tickets and experience and earning £3 more or a loyalty type bonus where ex driver has worked here ex amount years so we pay him extra couple quid a week every year the drivers has worked here.
So just because you’ve never seen it means that it doesn’t happen? OK…
You wpuld need to be the biggest arse licker on the planet for that to be you.
Themoocher:
Don’t you get if the market is flooded with cheap labour that will work for £9 a hour why would you pay a driver £16 per hour and Time n half and double for over time.
It’s nothing to do with how much ■■■■ you ■■■■. All your customer wants is you to turn up on time for a delivery and not smash the site up. There not intrested in anything else.
I’m not sure what your point is? Why are you telling me this when I have no issues securing work I enjoy doing for a rate I’m happy with? It’s you that’s going on about striking, unions etc so presumably contrary to your claims above, you’re unhappy with your lot.
No I’m happy with my work. I’m full time on decent money but I’m not a selfish twa t and can see the industry as a whole needs improved.
Sounds to me like you’ve only worked for logistics.com where you’re just a number and not required to think for yourself. I, on the other hand, have worked for small companies where going above and beyond your job description to help out the supplier can be the difference between keeping them or losing them when the contract is up for renewal. It’s not “sucking ■■■■” as you bluntly put it, merely using one’s brain and looking at the bigger picture. If you lose your suppliers then a) jobs become at risk and b) profits are reduced which means the chances of pay rises are slim.
your just mak8ng ■■■■ up and try to throw ■■■■ at me.
Never worked for logistic. com and I think I could count how many RDCs i have been in my life pal. Been in Aldi Chelmsford twice, Ikea once. That’s about as exciting as RDC life have managed mate.
The problem most drivers have is staring right back at them in the mirror : attitude. Funny how it’s always the neanderthal knuckle-draggers that can’t string a sentence together without every other word being profanity, who are the ones complaining about the treatment they get at customer premises. But I’m sure there’s no connection and it’s just pure coincidence…
Your delusional if you honestly think a driver kissing a customers arse has anything todo with winning contracts. Costs Costs and more costs.
Let’s ■■■■ stobarts or maritime or wincaton of Dave I don’t like that driver we just had in today.
Themoocher:
Your delusional if you honestly think a driver kissing a customers arse has anything todo with winning contracts. Costs Costs and more costs.
You’re the delusional one fella. Unlikely to make any difference at logistics.com where service doesn’t factor into the equation as it’s all about the price, but certainly does factor in at the smaller places where service is valued. We had a farm with a damaged tank which couldn’t take its full capacity. They weren’t due to be collected until late morning. Not our problem but he’d bought a new tank but couldn’t get it transported and installed. We went out of our way to accommodate him with an early morning collection before his usual late morning one, completely changing the route in the process. We didn’t have to as the tank was his problem. When the contract came up for renewal he had a competitor offer him more per litre than us but stuck with us because we’d got him out of the [zb] and looked after him and even said as much during the annual Christmas do that the suppliers are invited to. Not only that, but he told his neighbouring farmers and we gained 2 new suppliers within the same vicinity. 
That’s the problem with your type. You do the absolute bare minimum because helping out others and treating people how you’d like to be treated is deemed to be “arse-kissing” and “brown-nosing” in your thick heads as you’re incapable of seeing the bigger picture. That is why you get the treatment you deserve and you’re stuck in crappy jobs for crap money doing 2 weeks work in 1 whilst bleating about strikes and unions. I’ll say it again : the problem for most of you drivers is staring right back at you in the mirror.
DCPCFML:
Themoocher:
Your delusional if you honestly think a driver kissing a customers arse has anything todo with winning contracts. Costs Costs and more costs.
You’re the delusional one fella. Unlikely to make any difference at logistics.com where service doesn’t factor into the equation as it’s all about the price, but certainly does factor in at the smaller places where service is valued. We had a farm with a damaged tank which couldn’t take its full capacity. They weren’t due to be collected until late morning. Not our problem but he’d bought a new tank but couldn’t get it transported and installed. We went out of our way to accommodate him with an early morning collection before his usual late morning one, completely changing the route in the process. We didn’t have to as the tank was his problem. When the contract came up for renewal he had a competitor offer him more per litre than us but stuck with us because we’d got him out of the [zb] and looked after him and even said as much during the annual Christmas do that the suppliers are invited to. Not only that, but he told his neighbouring farmers and we gained 2 new suppliers within the same vicinity.
That’s the problem with your type. You do the absolute bare minimum because helping out others and treating people how you’d like to be treated is deemed to be “arse-kissing” and “brown-nosing” in your thick heads as you’re incapable of seeing the bigger picture. That is why you get the treatment you deserve and you’re stuck in crappy jobs for crap money doing 2 weeks work in 1 whilst bleating about strikes and unions. I’ll say it again : the problem for most of you drivers is staring right back at you in the mirror.
Mate honestly it is embarrasing now. None of this fictitious event actually happened. You know it and we all know it. You would not be involved with anything when the contract came up let alone told anything about it and how you won it. Complete fabrication and all in your head. I could say a bloke at our place only kept his job because he joined our union.You are quite funny though if not living in cukoo land.
DCPCFML:
Themoocher:
Your delusional if you honestly think a driver kissing a customers arse has anything todo with winning contracts. Costs Costs and more costs.
You’re the delusional one fella. Unlikely to make any difference at logistics.com where service doesn’t factor into the equation as it’s all about the price, but certainly does factor in at the smaller places where service is valued. We had a farm with a damaged tank which couldn’t take its full capacity. They weren’t due to be collected until late morning. Not our problem but he’d bought a new tank but couldn’t get it transported and installed. We went out of our way to accommodate him with an early morning collection before his usual late morning one, completely changing the route in the process. We didn’t have to as the tank was his problem. When the contract came up for renewal he had a competitor offer him more per litre than us but stuck with us because we’d got him out of the [zb] and looked after him and even said as much during the annual Christmas do that the suppliers are invited to. Not only that, but he told his neighbouring farmers and we gained 2 new suppliers within the same vicinity.
That’s the problem with your type. You do the absolute bare minimum because helping out others and treating people how you’d like to be treated is deemed to be “arse-kissing” and “brown-nosing” in your thick heads as you’re incapable of seeing the bigger picture. That is why you get the treatment you deserve and you’re stuck in crappy jobs for crap money doing 2 weeks work in 1 whilst bleating about strikes and unions. I’ll say it again : the problem for most of you drivers is staring right back at you in the mirror.
My type. what do you mean by that.
You don’t know me to start making accusations.
If you want a ■■■■■■■ contest about putting the company first. Going out my way to help clients I would be you hands down on both.
I will give you an example. I was on a job last week I got speaking to another guy on site. He liked the way the company operated and the most of all the costs of hire and I just earned my company a on going contract and a full months work on 7 days 10 hour hires.
I go out most days on hires and the lads hiring the cranes haven’t got a clue. I end up doing a APs job. Then showing them how to sling loads and signal the crane. 9 times out of 10 you get a tip out of it.
I don’t do 70 hours a week if I do I get paid over 100 hours with over time.
I’m time n half after 8 and double after 12
time n half first 4 hours on sat and double after 4 hours guaranteed 10 hours plus travel
double on Sun guaranteed 10 hours plus travel
double on night shift paid the next day off
15 pound a hour
Holiday pay average of past 12 weeks.
but dont tell me your on better terms and conditions on agency at Tescos or pumping at a farm.
There’s a lot of argumentative conflict on this page…
There we see the classic example of “Drivers - cannot ever stick together”.
The best thing a driver can do to turn the screw right now - is refuse to cover unwanted agency shifts on overtime.
Imagine! - Tescos offering complete strangers a grand, rather than their own drivers the same to “do a bit of overtime”…
It seems to me - the full timer has either already said “No” to more overtime, or has already maxed out their hours, so they cannot physically do it, as there are not enough hours in the day, even with relaxed driving rules that permit a 25 hour maximum shift rather than 15, 30 minutes reduced rest rather than 9 hours, and to replace the entire fleet with day cabs “To save money during these hard-pressed times where supermarkets are less able to screw home-growing producers like they used to pre-lockdown…”
We could seriously do with an “Enron” among the supermarkets, I reckon!
I speculate that at least ONE major supermarket - is already running on fumes.
Themoocher:
I don’t do 70 hours a week if I do I get paid over 100 hours with over time.
I’m time n half after 8 and double after 12
time n half first 4 hours on sat and double after 4 hours guaranteed 10 hours plus travel
double on Sun guaranteed 10 hours plus travel
double on night shift paid the next day off
15 pound a hour
Holiday pay average of past 12 weeks.
So STFU WHINGING THEN! Again, who are you trying to convince here? Me or yourself? I don’t need convincing - I am quite happy with my work and don’t have 500 posts whining about it unlike you. Take a look back at your recent posts! All bleating about pay, hours, conditions, treatment, how strikes and unions are needed, drivers sticking together. Why the ■■■■ do you or that Yorkshire Tramper idiot care if your jobs are as awesome as you make out? You’re either both complete liars and neither of those things exist or you’re just here moaning for the sake of it.
Get a ■■■■■■■ grip.
DCPCFML:
Themoocher:
I don’t do 70 hours a week if I do I get paid over 100 hours with over time.
I’m time n half after 8 and double after 12
time n half first 4 hours on sat and double after 4 hours guaranteed 10 hours plus travel
double on Sun guaranteed 10 hours plus travel
double on night shift paid the next day off
15 pound a hour
Holiday pay average of past 12 weeks.
So STFU WHINGING THEN! Again, who are you trying to convince here? Me or yourself? I don’t need convincing - I am quite happy with my work and don’t have 500 posts whining about it unlike you. Take a look back at your recent posts! All bleating about pay, hours, conditions, treatment, how strikes and unions are needed, drivers sticking together. Why the [zb] do you or that Yorkshire Tramper idiot care if your jobs are as awesome as you make out? You’re either both complete liars and neither of those things exist or you’re just here moaning for the sake of it.
Get a [zb] grip.
Yorkshire tramper idiot■■?
Yorkshire Tramper:
DCPCFML:
Speak for yourself? If you’re a useless driver who moans all the time and can’t drive for [zb] without doing damage, lets them down by blobbing, then quite rightly you’ll get shown the door when you ask for a rise. But if you’re good at what you do, look after the equipment, get them out of the mire when they [zb] up and do what you can to help out your suppliers/customers when they [zb] up, it gets noticed by management and you are in a strong position to negotiate an increase in pay because of what you can bring to the table.
Ha ha ha I am sure you are on awind up here mate. You keep going and getting noticed by management. No wonder you have big balls mate, you must get kicked in them ten times a day.
Likely he is a manager, or rather an acting manager… Picking on people 'cos he thinks he knows all the dodges we rank and fill drivers pull, whilst forgetting about his own shortcomings that got him booted upstairs in the first place…
The biggest abuses that acting managers routinely commit - are data violations with their full time access to the company computers - something which rank-and-file drivers simply do NOT have such access to…
Camera footage - not available FOR a driver’s benefit for example…
Pristine Microlise scores - don’t count, if you’re not a favoured driver. Bad microlise scores though? Just another stick to beat a driver with, like “no break for 6 hours into duty - WTD infringements” even after the driver’s hours rules got relaxed…
Hours worked - always scrutinized, despite the guy’s wages not coming out of acting manager’s pocket, so what business is it of theirs?.
Rule breaking - starts and ends with the less popular staff, and doesn’t reach up to those with union protection/full time staff.
Would-be Whilstle Blowers (especially on H&S matters) - politically assassinated at the earliest opportunity with an “arranged mishap/near miss” that strangely only invokes a verbal ban from site, rather than an official one, or anything involving the police being called…