If, in the course of your daily work, you drive a vehicle that requires an HGV / LGV licence to drive it but you ARE NOT an HGV / LGV driver delivering goods etc, will you still need to take the Driver CPC?
For example, if you drive a dustcart, a scaffolding truck,a prisoner transport truck, fire appliance etc, you are not strictly an HGV / LGV driver but you do need the correct catagory of licence to drive the vehicle, so is there still a legal requirment for such an individual to take the Driver CPC which to my understanding is a requirment for “Goods Vehicle” drivers only??
Sorry if that`s as clear as mud but any honest answers would be much appreciated.
There is an exemption from the Driver’s CPC which says
A vehicle carrying material or equipment to be used by that person in the course of his or her work, provided that driving that vehicle is not that person’s principal activity.
so some of the activities you mention would be exempt. Emergency services are also exempt so that would cover the fire truck.
A Dustcart requires the driver to have a Dcpc as the driver is driving COMMERCIALLY.
A vehicle carrying material or equipment to be used by that person in the course of his or her work, provided that driving that vehicle is not that person’s principal activity.
EXAMPLE - a scaffolder holds a LGV licence - he loads up the truck with a load of scaffold, drives to the site, spends all day putting up the scaffold and then drives back to base.
ROG:
Driving LGVs COMMERCIALLY is the remit for needing a Dcpc - unless exempt
Mike-C:
ROG, will trainers need a DCPC?
Those that teach the Periodic Dcpc - NO
Those that instruct LGV trainees - NO
With no need to be regulated by the DSA and no requirement for a DCPC it looks as though the gap between what a LGV driving candidate needs and what he might get could be big !!
Mike-C:
With no need to be regulated by the DSA and no requirement for a DCPC it looks as though the gap between what a LGV driving candidate needs and what he might get could be big !!
THE INITIAL DRIVER CPC is DSA tested so if the instructor is crap then the trainee will fail the test (mainly for Mod 4 practical as Mod 2 theory can be done easily without any instruction)
THE PERIODIC (ongoing) DRIVER CPC - well, that’s a joke as JAUPT have no staff to regulate it - proof of that is in many posts on this site where some trainers have been giving incorrect info to those attending courses
Mike-C:
With no need to be regulated by the DSA and no requirement for a DCPC it looks as though the gap between what a LGV driving candidate needs and what he might get could be big !!
It’s even better than that Mike.
There’s no need to notify DSA/JAUPT of the intention to run any course that attracts DCPC hours, so how would any provider ever get a spot-visit for the purpose of quality control of the course??
The only inspection visit that a DCPC trainer could get is an ‘admin’ visit, where the inspector checks records and class registers. You just couldn’t make it up, but that’s the way of it.
How can anybody take this DCPC seriously when it’s such a new system, but so totally lacking in being policed?? It’s no wonder that people reckon it’s a stealth tax when the Government can’t be arsed to control it properly.
Just contrast that with the way that ADR courses work…
An ADR course must be pre-notified online to SQA a minimum of 5 working days before the commencement of the course along with the dates and times of the exams and the name of the instructor who will run the course. That way, the SQA inspectors can drop in for a surprise visit at any time, and do so frequently. When the inspector turns up, he’s in the classroom observing for quite some time and the visit generates a written report.
