Driver Admits to Killing Cyclist

Look at the pic !

O/S 2nd steer is only one completely covered by tent .

Its reasonable to assume thats where the body is .

boredwivdrivin:
Yup .

Im going by the tent around O/S front axles in pic , which police use to cover gory scenes .

He swung right to turn left basically .

Im just drawing logical conclusions from the presented evidence .

A lorry turning left and the death of a cyclist the logical conclusion would be n/s there is tents and tarpaulin all around the lorry. She came up the n/s.

standard.co.uk/news/london/c … 36906.html

Wasting your time with this idiot Merc.

Best to ignore him. He worships the ball bag you mentioned in your post.

Rog270:
tippers as we should know in this game is paid on tonnage…

Come back and comment on this when you know what you’re talking about. Stick to boring people with your rose tinted tales of the Middle East.

boredwivdrivin:
Look at the pic !

O/S 2nd steer is only one completely covered by tent .

Its reasonable to assume thats where the body is .

You might be right as face value that’s how it looks.In which case the scenario of a driver turning left on the near side mirrors and somehow collected a cyclist at the offside front during the turn seems possible. :confused:

Or the truck isn’t stopped where the collision actually took place.IE hit at the nearside and knocked to the ground at the start of the turn and the vehicle has crossed right over the victim who is then lying at the offside after the truck had completed most of the turn. :bulb:

boredwivdrivin:
Look at the pic !

O/S 2nd steer is only one completely covered by tent .

Its reasonable to assume thats where the body is .

it is also reasonable to assume that the purpose of the tent on the off side is to prevent the press and weirdos taking photos with long lenses of the young woman under the lorry.

merc0447:
A lorry turning left and the death of a cyclist the logical conclusion would be n/s there is tents and tarpaulin all around the lorry. She came up the n/s.

standard.co.uk/news/london/c … 36906.html

Ah yes after examining your press link i can see cyclists came up n/s and died : Dr Katherine …

wot !

you plank …

Your link is a different death to the one this thread is about .

mother god of the seasons , the waves and the sunshine …

Please deliver me from these idiots

I will gladly light my own pyre if i never have to suffer these bedwetters forthwith

Bluey and CF . both your scenarios seem perfectly plausible .

I guessed this was an O/S accident purely on the tent in photos .

I shall trawl cycling death websites when i get home tonight and see if i can prove myself wrong

boredwivdrivin:

merc0447:
A lorry turning left and the death of a cyclist the logical conclusion would be n/s there is tents and tarpaulin all around the lorry. She came up the n/s.

standard.co.uk/news/london/c … 36906.html

Ah yes after examining your press link i can see cyclists came up n/s and died : Dr Katherine …

I do apologise you don’t need to get out your tree pal. I was on my phone at the time, that link i posted was a previous death in the exact same location. Must have seen the same location and thought it was the same person. Ive looked for any link that either says n/s or o/s and none seem to exist, they all say lorry turning left. Ive found quite a fair few different camera angles and the n/s is also screened off. I did find an eye witness account but that also didn’t say n/s or o/s just the manner in which she was riding.

dailymail.co.uk/news/article … crash.html

“The truck had been driving along a one-way street close to Victoria tube station in south west London at 8am this morning when it struck the woman on the inside lane at a set of traffic lights.”

Posh, rich morons love to pretend to be blind… everyone knows the answer to this… no one wants to do it… everybody just blame drivers…

And since now they have banned stickers that say to cyclist not to pass on left it will only get worse…
Official statement is that sticker on back of lorry saying not to pass on left is discriminating cyclist rights… so in other words… :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

kyk:
“The truck had been driving along a one-way street close to Victoria tube station in south west London at 8am this morning when it struck the woman on the inside lane at a set of traffic lights.”

Foreseeably the truck was positioned well over to the offside on the approach to the turn.It’s then just a question of was the cyclist established on the near side ahead of the truck before it got there.

Or was the truck established on the offside ahead of the cyclist before the cyclist got there and the cyclist then tried to undertake the turning truck.

The difference between those two scenarios ‘should’ arguably be enough to determine the difference between innocence or guilt.

Although having said that assuming the latter scenario forgetting to indicate in that situation would obviously still be enough to incriminate the driver. :bulb:

Whatever happened in this case the circumstances seemed to be sufficient for the driver’s defence representation to advise a guilty plea.In which case it would be interesting to see a transcript of the trial that provides the reasons for that advice.The result being the same for both the victim and the unfortunate driver.The odds of which inevitably happening sooner or later on an ongoing basis having arguably reached untenable levels with a day time truck ban now seeming to be the only logical answer to protect both drivers and cyclist victims.

To be honest… 1000+ tippers driving around in city all night, every night is quite appealing perspective… :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

kyk:
To be honest… 1000+ tippers driving around in city all night, every night is quite appealing perspective… :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Ironically I did some night trunk runs through town between Feltham and Charlton for a while with artics and some draw bars which made a zb run at least tolerable.While with the level of the cyclist menace now the choice of days v nights driving there would be a no brainer.

They won’t dare… poshnobrainers complain even about multidropper smashing back doors at 6:59am… imagine what would happen if 1000+ tippers racing around city all night… :smiley:

They will just carry on as brainless as it is now untill all tipper drivers will be in jail… :smiley:

kyk:
They will just carry on as brainless as it is now untill all tipper drivers will be in jail… :smiley:

I know I shouldn’t but I couldn’t help it. :smiling_imp: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

two reports from when it happened, the first BBC news report says “the cyclist was hit on the inside.”
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31531120

and another, a very interesting post that I found on a cycling forum, posted on the day of the tragedy by someone who may have witnessed the incident, he is clearly not critical of the driver
forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f … 19#p868862

Bluey Circles:
two reports from when it happened, the first BBC news report says “the cyclist was hit on the inside.”
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31531120

and another, a very interesting post that I found on a cycling forum, posted on the day of the tragedy by someone who may have witnessed the incident, he is clearly not critical of the driver
forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f … 19#p868862

When it is a motorised vehicle that comes down the nearside of a truck that is indicating left and gets hit, its the car/motorcycles fault, but if its a cyclist, its the truck drivers fault! what chance do truck drivers have?

weeto:

Bluey Circles:
two reports from when it happened, the first BBC news report says “the cyclist was hit on the inside.”
bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-31531120

and another, a very interesting post that I found on a cycling forum, posted on the day of the tragedy by someone who may have witnessed the incident, he is clearly not critical of the driver
forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f … 19#p868862

When it is a motorised vehicle that comes down the nearside of a truck that is indicating left and gets hit, its the car/motorcycles fault, but if its a cyclist, its the truck drivers fault! what chance do truck drivers have?

Assuming we’re sure that BC’s link contains accurate witness information related to the incident in question it would raise obvious questions concerning the defence case and advice of a guilty plea.IE the driver wasn’t found guilty he pleaded guilty.Maybe an admission of an indication error ?. :bulb:

A sad and tragic incident…

And what are the government doing about this? Bugger all!!!
It seems that it’s easier to blame the drivers than it is to educate cyclists…
We have adverts on TV about drink driving, but I’ve yet to see one for educating cyclists who may well be oblivious to the dangers they place themselves in. I’m not saying that this was the case here, just that I’m sure a lot of cyclist deaths could be avoided!

Bluey Circles:
and another, a very interesting post that I found on a cycling forum, posted on the day of the tragedy by someone who may have witnessed the incident, he is clearly not critical of the driver
forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f … 19#p868862

“The requested topic does not exist.” Maybe it was withdrawn in light of court proceedings?