Tonight is my first shift back after having a weekly rest, I’ve put my card in and done a manual entry, I’ve not moved the truck and it’s showing 15 minutes drive ? I’ve done a print out and there’s no drive on that but the dash and tacho head are both showing 15 minutes drive? Any ideas ?
oh nvm…sneaky shunter maybe or a joy rider
You’ve messed up your manual entry.
ETS:
oh nvm…sneaky shunter maybe or a joy rider
I’ve not left the truck
the maoster:
You’ve messed up your manual entry.
How? Could you please explain how ? Cheers
Darb:
the maoster:
You’ve messed up your manual entry.How? Could you please explain how ? Cheers
Without you going through the exact steps you took mate I can’t give a definitive answer as to what exactly you did wrong, but as sure as eggs is eggs the reason you are showing 15 mins driving is because of the manual entry you did.
Personally I’d forget it and ensure that I took a driving break just after 4 hours. I take it you don’t max your driving on a night?
the maoster:
Darb:
the maoster:
You’ve messed up your manual entry.How? Could you please explain how ? Cheers
Without you going through the exact steps you took mate I can’t give a definitive answer as to what exactly you did wrong, but as sure as eggs is eggs the reason you are showing 15 mins driving is because of the manual entry you did.
Personally I’d forget it and ensure that I took a driving break just after 4 hours. I take it you don’t max your driving on a night?
I can’t see how you can input drive time with a manual entry. Drive isn’t an option is it? Not like other work, POA or break.
That said just because I’ve never had a need to do it may be possible I just don’t know how.
Wiretwister:
I can’t see how you can input drive time with a manual entry. Drive isn’t an option is it? Not like other work, POA or break.That said just because I’ve never had a need to do it may be possible I just don’t know how.
You are indeed correct in your assertion that you cannot manually input driving time, what you can do however is mess up the bit where you enter the end of your previous shift and leave yourself with apparent driving time already on “today’s” card. We often hear of people complaining that they’ve only done for example an hours driving but the tacho is flashing up that they need a break
That always stems from an incorrect manual entry.
Is it possible that you never cleared the driving without card message before you put your card in. If the truck has been used in the yard for shunting or whatever, I’ve heard that if you don’t clear the message before you put your card in, the truck assumes it was you that has been doing the driving without a card inserted, hence the phantom 15mins you are seeing.
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the maoster:
Wiretwister:
I can’t see how you can input drive time with a manual entry. Drive isn’t an option is it? Not like other work, POA or break.That said just because I’ve never had a need to do it may be possible I just don’t know how.
You are indeed correct in your assertion that you cannot manually input driving time, what you can do however is mess up the bit where you enter the end of your previous shift and leave yourself with apparent driving time already on “today’s” card. We often hear of people complaining that they’ve only done for example an hours driving but the tacho is flashing up that they need a break
That always stems from an incorrect manual entry.
Yes I can see how that may cause a problem but from the printout there are 16 hours of unaccounted time before the first hour of other work as the fist manual entry. The op also stated this was his first shift after a weekly break.
I suppose the only sure fire way would be to enter the weekly rest manually.
Manual entries are for greedy people
Wiretwister:
Yes I can see how that may cause a problem but from the printout there are 16 hours of unaccounted time before the first hour of other work as the fist manual entry. The op also stated this was his first shift after a weekly break.I suppose the only sure fire way would be to enter the weekly rest manually.
I’m gonna take a punt here and suggest that on the last shift that Darb worked he had a driving time break near to the end of his shift, he then drove for a further 15 minutes before finishing work and ejecting his card. I’m also gonna take a punt and say that he’ll shortly have an infringement to sign for exceeding daily working time, and then another for insufficient rest. All stemming from incorrectly Inputted data on the manual entry.
Is this an example of how electronic technology has made life so much easier?
When you did your manual entry it’s possible you selected other work for your weekly rest instead of rest. If you did, then the tacho’s been instructed that you’ve been on shift all the time you’ve been off, and your 15 minutes driving hasn’t been reset because no break has been recorded since you popped your card at the end of last week.
I once did this, and before I moved the lorry it showed nearly 3 hours driving lol. Nothing could be done and I got several infringements back to sign.
ezydriver:
When you did your manual entry it’s possible you selected other work for your weekly rest instead of rest. If you did, then the tacho’s been instructed that you’ve been on shift all the time you’ve been off, and your 15 minutes driving hasn’t been reset because no break has been recorded since you popped your card at the end of last week.I once did this, and before I moved the lorry it showed nearly 3 hours driving lol. Nothing could be done and I got several infringements back to sign.
No because from 00:00 until 16:00 is shown as ‘?’ on the printout which would class as rest, even if that was a daily any previous driving time would be cleared.
Mine does this, normally if it’s been moved recently before I get into work (shunting/engineers etc) and I get in shortly after the internal computer thing shows their driving without a card time and days it’s me but the tacho shows right.
the maoster:
Darb:
the maoster:
You’ve messed up your manual entry.How? Could you please explain how ? Cheers
Without you going through the exact steps you took mate I can’t give a definitive answer as to what exactly you did wrong, but as sure as eggs is eggs the reason you are showing 15 mins driving is because of the manual entry you did.
Personally I’d forget it and ensure that I took a driving break just after 4 hours. I take it you don’t max your driving on a night?
I really can’t see what I’ve done wrong, here’s printouts for the last part of my Saturday shift the Sunday I was off and then the Monday I started back, all my weekend rest is indicated by the “?” Symbol, please explain my error and why I’ve caused the drive to be on there.
The 15 mins driving isn’t showing on you print out, its showing 00:00 driving, so is unlikely to be on your card, the display on some trucks don’t always tally up with the tacho.
A few weeks ago I got into my wagon, stuck my card in then did all of my checks. Got back in the cab and looked up at the tacho and it was showing drive mode, and actually clocking driving time, despite the wheels never actually turning.
I just switched the mode to other work and clocked 15 minutes before I left the yard. Made sure to take my break early to avoid an infringement. When I finished, I did a print out and reported a possible tacho fault.
Nothing ever came of it, and it has only ever happened that one time
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