Recently we got Drive Cam cameras installed overnight throughout the whole company fleet without being announced.
I did a little bit of digging on this company and talked to multiple coworkers about how this whole system works.
Ended up having to find out from a friend of mine that the cameras send out these videos of us driving along into the Philippines for review.
His sister is involved with one of the coworkers at Drive Cam aka “Lytx” and this information does not stay in the EU which supposedly is a little frowned upon.
To be honest, I don’t mind having a camera installed and being watched by “big brother” after all it is his fleet.
But what disturbs me is the fact that I am being watched by someone in another country which has nothing to do with the company.
Anyone else have these type of cameras installed? Have you discovered any additional information?
How should I approach this subject with my boss? I don’t want him to have any issues in the future and I don’t want to get sacked either…
The only thing tougher than a trucker is a trucker’s wife
The point of DriveCam is that people analyse the video supposedly to help you improve your driving
I’ve no idea where the video is analysed or by whom, maybe I’m missing something but if you have no objection to someone in the UK watching the video I don’t see why you would object to someone in the Philippines watching it
Anyway, as this appears to be more about having the cameras fitted than the actual camera or software I’ll move the thread to the PDF.
tachograph:
The point of DriveCam is that people analyse the video supposedly to help you improve your driving
I’ve no idea where the video is analysed or by whom, maybe I’m missing something but if you have no objection to someone in the UK watching the video I don’t see why you would object to someone in the Philippines watching it
Anyway, as this appears to be more about having the cameras fitted than the actual camera or software I’ll move the thread to the PDF.
Thanks for the quick reply I don’t mind the company watching the footage, I DO mind if someone in another country is watching footage of me.
What would happen in footage from that camera got out into the public because of some guy that got laid off from work and he gets mad and starts posting videos on YouTube?
I do see a lot of these being posted already on social media websites, not to mention that it breaks the law…
My experience of these is that the company don’t take an iota of interest in them until there’s some kind of incident, our company has them and they’re run by a third party and if my boss wants to look at an incident he has to pay this third party to provide the video so unless it’s important 99.99999999 % of footage goes unseen .
Good bits of kit, I’ve had a blackvue fitted in my car, which I can view when it’s parked through my phone or iPad. It’s got motion sensors so automatically records any movement nearby, and it additionally has an internal sensor that detects a bump and stores that footage in a different section and texts me a warning.
I don’t have a problem with my truck one recording outside, but I wouldn’t tolerate a driver facing one. I know people will say that’s where it’s going, but it won’t go that way with me as I’d point blank refuse to drive the vehicle that was so invasive of my privacy. To put it bluntly it’s no different to having a spy cam in a toilet or a shower due the fact that as a tramper your cab is basically your bedroom.
Get used to them they’re not going away, ours look down the nearside and to the front and are recorded on board onto a memory card which is only viewed after an incident.
I would have an issue with a camera facing me whilst driving, the plus point would be an end to the abuse of the cab interior which we are plagued with at my place, it wont be too long before we have them in our cars as a requirement of the insurers.
I’d be concerned as to how this is affected by the data protection act or whether sending it abroad gets out of this.
Suspect most of it is purely cost related, although does your boss get a report from them or are they just sent incidents which they identify?
Sounds like a bit of a waste of money unless they have people who know how Brits drive and understand British roads. Normal dash cams I welcome for my protection.
From what I heard, the events are constantly watched and we are continuously monitored by that “3rd party”
I’ve heard rumors of people being sacked for drinking water or for taking shortcuts.
I understand the legality of the Dash Cam and I am completely aware of the law.
I also do agree to what Tris wrote and again I bring my point.
Being constantly watched by someone that doesn’t even have a clue about your company policies kinda makes me feel a little suspicious.
Also the fact that we haven’t even been given a notice or a choice leads me to believe that employee opinions don’t really matter.
Suspect most of it is purely cost related, although does your boss get a report from them or are they just sent incidents which they identify?
They send reports and they also send footage of drivers along with those reports.
trevHCS:
I’d be concerned as to how this is affected by the data protection act or whether sending it abroad gets out of this.
Suspect most of it is purely cost related, although does your boss get a report from them or are they just sent incidents which they identify?
Sounds like a bit of a waste of money unless they have people who know how Brits drive and understand British roads. Normal dash cams I welcome for my protection.
Also I know for a fact that these events are being sent abroad for cost purposes and it does affect the data protection act.
Does it do audio as well? Say that you’re looking for a filipina wife and give your number out, see what happens. If no audio, wrtie it out on a card and put it in front of the camera.
They are there to monitor your driving. They record about 20 seconds in a continuous loop. Most of it is auto deleted. They only record events like harsh braking, swerving, and collisions. They also have an audio record facillity, so your reactions are recorded too. At our place, they call us in the office to discuss issues, and determine wether or not actual misconduct occurrs.
Yes, big brother is watching, you just have to try and keep your nose clean
papermonkey:
They are there to monitor your driving. They record about 20 seconds in a continuous loop. Most of it is auto deleted. They only record events like harsh braking, swerving, and collisions. They also have an audio record facillity, so your reactions are recorded too. At our place, they call us in the office to discuss issues, and determine wether or not actual misconduct occurrs.
Yes, big brother is watching, you just have to try and keep your nose clean
Yes, agreed.
Is it also to cover the Company’s arse? Like the fatal on A34 couple of months ago, ‘driver’ sorting music on his phone, bang to rights. Are the Company in the clear?
17 posts and we still havent had the predictable condescending diddy telling is if were not doing anything we shouldnt be doing,then weve nothing to worry about??..or have i just done that now anyway?
any event captured by the dash cam gets viewed overseas, according to your companies criteria anything untowards gets reported back on… but seriously if your only worry is this considering most everyday things will be viewed oversees… banks, finance, insurance even down to ceratin areas council tax…
I very much doubt that there is someone constantly monitoring you overseas! If the camera has 3G/4G live streaming properties then a subscribed SIM card would be needed for location purposes. This would mean that there would have to be a data package that would come with the subscription. In my experience having a live camera system to be viewed overseas is no easy feat (although doable). This is due to data roaming from the network provider. It is however very possible, but would come with one hell of a cost!!!
For example, the company who is selling the cameras to the haulage/transport company would charge a fee to use the server for which the viewing platform is viewd on. And then you have to factor in the cost of the tariff for what the SIM card data is packaged with.
This is just not financially viable for any company to work with.
At best, the prospective company would be able to tap in online when an event was signalled. But if this was a constant live stream, it would eat they’re data like crazy depending on which network the data roaming facility is on. It would just cost too much!
A live streaming camera is indeed the way forward for most fleet companies, but it has to be used responsibily, otherwise the cost factor will just be too high!
