DOW FREIGHT SERVICES (1970's/80's)

Named after Dow receptionist Sandra according to mushroomman.

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Does anyone know why I am now seeing ‘proudly hosted on photobucket’ superimposed on some photos? I am sure the wording has been added recently.

sandway:
Named after Dow receptionist Sandra according to mushroomman.

That’s a shame,“Sandra” has her Union Jack stuck on upside down!!!

David

5thwheel:

sandway:
Named after Dow receptionist Sandra according to mushroomman.

That’s a shame,“Sandra” has her Union Jack stuck on upside down!!!

David

It looks O.K. from here David. :wink:

Shouldn’t the thick white stripe on the Union ‘Flag’ (it’s not a Jack) be on the top, next to the flag staff, in this case the door post. :confused:
Where is our Akela when you need her. :slight_smile:

If I remember correctly you could buy those stick on Union flags in Dover docks where they had a Les Routiers truck shop near The Dolphin Bar in the passenger terminal, in the 70’s/ early 80’s.
Those flags would quite often disappear in The Commie Block along with the G.B. stickers off the back of the trailer so it was always useful to grab a handful of free Townsend Thorensen G.B. stickers whenever you were shipping out.

Thinking about Sandra (the receptionist) I am fairly certain that her husband (I think that he was called Brian) worked upstairs in the office for Dow Air Freight Services and her father (I think that he might of been called Ted) used to drive a four wheeler doing a bit of U.K. work.
Sandra left about a year after I had started to have a baby and was replaced by a girl called Jackie.

Sandra (the truck) next to the Black Sea near Sinop in Turkey, along with a couple of the Turkish army escorts.

Regards Steve.

sandway:
Does anyone know why I am now seeing ‘proudly hosted on photobucket’ superimposed on some photos? I am sure the wording has been added recently.

I see what you mean Brian, in fact it looks like a lot of the photos on Trucknet that were loaded through Photobucket have been superimposed. :imp:
Many years ago I.I.R.C. if you wanted to put a photo on a website then you had to upload them onto a image hosting site like Photobucket but there were others. As Photobucket was one of the popular image hosting sites used on here at the time then I decided to upload all my photos onto there. It was a few years later when you were able to upload photos straight from your computer onto the Trucknet website without using an image hosting site.
Paul Moomooland had a couple of great websites going a few years back and I think he was using a site called Phototopic or something like that when they just stopped operating one day and all his hard work that he must of put in to it over the years just disappeared. So I think that many of the photos that have been put on here over the years through another image hosting site that as now stopped operating have now been lost for ever. :cry:
However, I am hoping that there are still a few people around like myself who may have seen an interesting photo in the past and decided to download it onto their computer and hopefully reshow it in years to come. :smiley:
There is probably something in the terms and conditions in the small print which says that by using their site they can use your images if they want to.
I must admit that I haven’t been on the Photobucket site for over a year now and I have no intention of using it again.

Regards Steve.

mushroomman:

sandway:
Does anyone know why I am now seeing ‘proudly hosted on photobucket’ superimposed on some photos? I am sure the wording has been added recently.

I see what you mean Brian, in fact it looks like a lot of the photos on Trucknet that were loaded through Photobucket have been superimposed. :imp:
Many years ago I.I.R.C. if you wanted to put a photo on a website then you had to upload them onto a image hosting site like Photobucket but there were others. As Photobucket was one of the popular image hosting sites used on here at the time then I decided to upload all my photos onto there. It was a few years later when you were able to upload photos straight from your computer onto the Trucknet website without using an image hosting site.
Paul Moomooland had a couple of great websites going a few years back and I think he was using a site called Phototopic or something like that when they just stopped operating one day and all his hard work that he must of put in to it over the years just disappeared. So I think that many of the photos that have been put on here over the years through another image hosting site that as now stopped operating have now been lost for ever. :cry:
However, I am hoping that there are still a few people around like myself who may have seen an interesting photo in the past and decided to download it onto their computer and hopefully reshow it in years to come. :smiley:
There is probably something in the terms and conditions in the small print which says that by using their site they can use your images if they want to.
I must admit that I haven’t been on the Photobucket site for over a year now and I have no intention of using it again.

Regards Steve.

I’d give the cavalier, money-grabbing ■■■■■ a wide berth! Robert

mushroomman:

5thwheel:

sandway:
Named after Dow receptionist Sandra according to mushroomman.

That’s a shame,“Sandra” has her Union Jack stuck on upside down!!!

David

It looks O.K. from here David. :wink:

Shouldn’t the thick white stripe on the Union ‘Flag’ (it’s not a Jack) be on the top, next to the flag staff, in this case the door post. :confused:
Where is our Akela when you need her. :slight_smile:

If I remember correctly you could buy those stick on Union flags in Dover docks where they had a Les Routiers truck shop near The Dolphin Bar in the passenger terminal, in the 70’s/ early 80’s.
Those flags would quite often disappear in The Commie Block along with the G.B. stickers off the back of the trailer so it was always useful to grab a handful of free Townsend Thorensen G.B. stickers whenever you were shipping out.

Thinking about Sandra (the receptionist) I am fairly certain that her husband (I think that he was called Brian) worked upstairs in the office for Dow Air Freight Services and her father (I think that he might of been called Ted) used to drive a four wheeler doing a bit of U.K. work.
Sandra left about a year after I had started to have a baby and was replaced by a girl called Jackie.

Sandra (the truck) next to the Black Sea near Sinop in Turkey, along with a couple of the Turkish army escorts.

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Regards Steve.

Hi Steve,

The thick white line should be on the top of the red line at top left quarter,the thin white line underneath the same red line,it’s me being pickie,I have always checked the Union flag(correct!) whenever I see one,sad isn’t it!

David

Hi Steve,
The thick white line should be on the top of the red line at top left quarter,the thin white line underneath the same red line,it’s me being pickie,I have always checked the Union flag(correct!) whenever I see one,sad isn’t it!
David.

No David, that’s not sad, sad is when you look back through Trucknet and see some of the great photos that have been posted on here over the years only to find that they now have a label stuck over them, like this for example. :cry: :cry: :cry:

Regards Steve.

mushroomman:
Hi Steve,
The thick white line should be on the top of the red line at top left quarter,the thin white line underneath the same red line,it’s me being pickie,I have always checked the Union flag(correct!) whenever I see one,sad isn’t it!
David.

No David, that’s not sad, sad is when you look back through Trucknet and see some of the great photos that have been posted on here over the years only to find that they now have a label stuck over them, like this for example. :cry: :cry: :cry:

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Regards Steve.

Couldn’t agree more Steve,it really detracts from the quality of the original photo,I’m sure,if they feel they have to put their stamp on,they could either use a smaller stamp and put it in a more inconspicuous
area of the photo,for example in the tree’s or sky,but not on the actual subject matter.

Yes Steve you are right,sad indeed.

David

Was it a drivers idea to add the Union Flag to the bottom of the door as only a few had them. If so was permission required first from the boss?

sandway:
Was it a drivers idea to add the Union Flag to the bottom of the door as only a few had them. If so was permission required first from the boss?

The boss wouldn’t be interested as long as the registration numbers matched [emoji14]

Wheel Nut:

sandway:
Was it a drivers idea to add the Union Flag to the bottom of the door as only a few had them. If so was permission required first from the boss?

The boss wouldn’t be interested as long as the registration numbers matched [emoji14]

:smiley: :smiley: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :confused:

David

5thwheel:

mushroomman:

5thwheel:

sandway:
Named after Dow receptionist Sandra according to mushroomman.

That’s a shame,“Sandra” has her Union Jack stuck on upside down!!!

David

It looks O.K. from here David. :wink:

Shouldn’t the thick white stripe on the Union ‘Flag’ (it’s not a Jack) be on the top, next to the flag staff, in this case the door post. :confused:
Where is our Akela when you need her. :slight_smile:

If I remember correctly you could buy those stick on Union flags in Dover docks where they had a Les Routiers truck shop near The Dolphin Bar in the passenger terminal, in the 70’s/ early 80’s.
Those flags would quite often disappear in The Commie Block along with the G.B. stickers off the back of the trailer so it was always useful to grab a handful of free Townsend Thorensen G.B. stickers whenever you were shipping out.

Hope this ones up the right way 5thwheel. Myself and Dave Lloyd on the scaffold.

Thinking about Sandra (the receptionist) I am fairly certain that her husband (I think that he was called Brian) worked upstairs in the office for Dow Air Freight Services and her father (I think that he might of been called Ted) used to drive a four wheeler doing a bit of U.K. work.
Sandra left about a year after I had started to have a baby and was replaced by a girl called Jackie.

Sandra (the truck) next to the Black Sea near Sinop in Turkey, along with a couple of the Turkish army escorts.

Regards Steve.

Hi Steve,

The thick white line should be on the top of the red line at top left quarter,the thin white line underneath the same red line,it’s me being pickie,I have always checked the Union flag(correct!) whenever I see one,sad isn’t it!

David

Hope this ones up the right way 5thwheel. Myself and Dave Lloyd on the scaffold.

sandway:
Was it a drivers idea to add the Union Flag to the bottom of the door as only a few had them. If so was permission required first from the boss?

Hi Brian, I never asked for permission to stick a couple of Union flags on the doors but I always asked if it was O.K. to take a relative or a friend with me on a trip and the answer was always the same, no problem.
When I took over Sandra she was about two years old and already had the flags on the doors and up until last week I always thought that the flags had been hand painted on when the vehicle was new. I have been through all my old photos and they all look as though they are actually stickers. Before I started at Dow I did a trip with an old mate of mine called Ken Singleton to Austria and at the back of my mind I have a feeling that Ken’s old motor named “Elaine”, an M.A.N. 16.280 which had a column change gear stick, factory fitted blue sun visor, and twin chrome air horns had the flags painted on but like I say now I am not too sure. I do remember that when I started most of the vehicles had factory fitted blue sun visors and illuminous headboards. All the vehicles were fitted with Blaupunkt radio cassette players and on my first day I was told to go out a buy a twin burner gas camping stove, which also had a grill for making toast :smiley: and a camping gaz gas bottle. I handed the receipt in when I did my expenses after my first trip and they refunded me the money.
That photo that you showed on the previous page Brian was taken by me on my first trip to Turkey in Europort, Holland one Sunday morning, when seven of us were taking a drilling rig down to Dyerbakir. The guy with the Ford Transcon with the Michelin men and the Massey Fergusson front end loaders on is Chris Turnbull who was in that photo with Jimmy Walker and Trevor Long from Astran when you took that photo at the Zagreb Motel all those years ago. I can’t remember where Chris was delivering to on that trip but he didn’t go through the Commie Block with the rest of us. Three drivers and myself had shipped out from Ipswich on the North Sea Ferries freighter on the Saturday afternoon and the other four drivers had been on the overnight Hull to Europort sailing.
I put that photo on Trucknet about ten years ago and I noticed that on the photo that you have put on some (z.b.) has put the letters S.MOCN with the copyright symbol on it, I bet that he can’t show us the negative.
I shall put the original photo back on along with another photo that I took on the same morning along with an earlier black and white photo of Sandra just before I took her over.

Original Photo.

Pirate Copy.

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Europort.


An old photo of Sandra.

That was very remiss of me Steve. I honestly didn’t see the copyright lettering or symbol on the photo even though its so obvious. I’m glad it was one of your photos though. Talking of photos being used or shown by others, for me it isn’t a problem. I have said before on here that I’m happy for my photos to be spread around but we all value our possessions differently. Since the photo of Promotors D Series in Tehran cropped up again, I know it was first shown on here ten years ago, I have been on many other websites looking for further evidence of that lorry. I have been on Danish, Dutch, Italian, German and other UK sites and what really surprised me was the times the same photos would crop up time after time. One photo that I have seen on most sites is the one I have attached here of a Promotor lorry off the road. Another one is the George Fardell Volvo F10 that also seems very popular that I have mentioned recently on the Promotor thread.

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GOOD HEAVENS SANDWAY :open_mouth: you certainly put your life on the line in far off distant lands trying to fly the flag for Queen and country. How on earth did you manage to climb so high without a Hi-Viz vest, safety goggles, hard hat, hand protection and safety boots. :confused: I really can’t remember drivers back in the 70’s/80’s using the word “multi tasking” it was more of a case of “roll yer sleeves up, get stuck into the job and get the job done” which I am sure you did successfully on many occasions.
Once again I enjoyed reading your story about the Cologne Exhibition Hall which brought back more than a few happy memories for me. :smiley: I think that I would of loved a job at Promotors back then as it sounded like really interesting work but as I am now still suffering from an anxiety attack after trying to assemble an Ikea coffee table last week then maybe I wasn’t Promotors material. :cry:
I must point out that I also do not mind other people reshowing my photos, in fact I welcome it, it was just that as that photo which I took in Europort in 1980 had somebody else’s name and a copyright mark on it I just wondered if I could be legally sued for reshowing the photo with out their permission. :confused:

Turk Scammells.

Izmir.

Dyarbakir.

Regards Steve.

Yes Steve,Union flag all present and correct!

David

Dow’s merry band of men.

Hi Sandway, that’s another old photo that I have never seen before. I don’t know where you keep getting them from but please keep them coming. :smiley:
The only two Dow drivers that I recognise at the moment is the guy on the left of the photo, Eric Wall and the fourth guy holding his hands out I think is Dave Hammond, both from Manchester.
I have a feeling that the second and third guys could be drivers from South Wales either C.V.H. Caerphilly Van Hire or Hick’s from Newport.
For a moment I thought that might of been me in the middle :confused: unless it was after an Efes Control as I have no idea where or when the photo was taken but I would say that it would of been about 1986 ish when Eric started.
The guy in the blue jumper looks familiar although I can’t remember who he drove for and as MNC 453 W which was Jimmy Walker old motor I wondered if it was Jimmy who might of took the photograph. :smiley:

Somewhere In Bulgaria.

Bulgaria.

Shipka Pass, Also Known As Cobblestone Mountain, Bulgaria.

Regards Steve.