if i sit next to a driver and only drive for two hours do i have to show a break ?
what should i show when i am not driving other work or poa.
I would say that when you’re sitting there next to the driver it’s “other work” as you’re being paid whilst sitting there and it’s part of your job. If you drive for two hours only per day then no tachograph break is required as the maximum amount of driving in one driving period is 4.5 hours.
But.
I’m a bit hazy on the details but other working time directives state that you must take a half hour (?) break after six hours of commencing work - regardless of what work you’re doing. I’m not sure if you’re liable for prosecution if you don’t take that half our break, like you would be for exceeding driving times.
I thought the one not driving could take a BREAK whilst the vehicle is driven by the other but not allowed to take a DAILY or WEEKLY REST unless the vehicle was parked 
kentman117:
if i sit next to a driver and only drive for two hours do i have to show a break ?
No, you would not have to show a break for either the tacho rules or WTD because you have not reached 4.5 hours driving or 6 hours work.
kentman117:
what should i show when i am not driving other work or poa.
If you are just sitting there it’s break or POA, your choice and it doesn’t really matter, as they are virtually the same thing anyway. However, VOSA will regard the first 45 minutes of POA as break anyway for the second driver in double manning operations.
manowar:
I would say that when you’re sitting there next to the driver it’s “other work” as you’re being paid whilst sitting there and it’s part of your job
Whether you are being paid or not has no bearing on whether it is Other Work, Break or POA. It is only about what you are actually doing.
manowar:
I’m a bit hazy on the details but other working time directives state that you must take a half hour (?) break after six hours of commencing work - regardless of what work you’re doing.
You are right, you are a bit hazy. 
You must take a break of at least 15 minutes, not 30 minutes, after 6 hours work - work being other work and driving. This isn’t six hours after commencing work, depending on break and POA it could be a lot later than 6 hours after commencing work.
ROG:
I thought the one not driving could take a BREAK whilst the vehicle is driven by the other but not allowed to take a DAILY or WEEKLY REST unless the vehicle was parked
Blimey 
- no comment from coffeeholic 
- I must have got something right - at last 
ROG:
ROG:
I thought the one not driving could take a BREAK whilst the vehicle is driven by the other but not allowed to take a DAILY or WEEKLY REST unless the vehicle was parkedBlimey
I don’t bother reading your replies to tacho or WTD questions any more, I just assume you have got it wrong somewhere. Sorry.
Having now read it you were right this time though
thanks for the feed back.
Coffeeholic
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About time too
tachograph:
Coffeeholic
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OH NO - now I’ll get into more trouble…
… hang on - hmmmm… instead of telling me I got a regulation wrong - just remove it - much simpler
tachograph:
Coffeeholic
MODERATORAbout time too
Hear, hear!! 