Double Manning - Being nosey

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Hi guys, well the curiosity has got the better of me! - The firm i work for have alot of double manned foreign drivers coming in, and im curious as to how this works! :smiley:

I only do UK work, but always handy to know incase anything happens :wink: -

So if using a digit tach, do both drivers have to put their cards into each slot? Or is it that when Driver 1 finishes a block of driving, he takes it out and books off for daily rest and driver two puts his card in and then does his block of driving…then have daily rest?

Thanks people :sunglasses:

Stu

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Stu190:
Hi guys, well the curiosity has got the better of me! - The firm i work for have alot of double manned foreign drivers coming in, and im curious as to how this works! :smiley:

I only do UK work, but always handy to know incase anything happens :wink: -

So if using a digit tach, do both drivers have to put their cards into each slot? Or is it that when Driver 1 finishes a block of driving, he takes it out and books off for daily rest and driver two puts his card in and then does his block of driving…then have daily rest?

Thanks people :sunglasses:

Stu

hi mate

the one that is driving as his card in slot 1 and the co driver in slot 2 when you have driven for 4.5 hours you change the cards over, and when you have put your card in slot 2 after you 4.5 hour drive the first 45 Min’s would be counted as a break.

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this may help

Multi-manning
‘Multi-manning’ is the situation where, during each period of driving between any two consecutive
daily rest periods, or between a daily rest period and a weekly rest period, there are at least two drivers
in the vehicle to do the driving. For the first hour of multi-manning the presence of another driver or
drivers is optional, but for the remainder of the period it is compulsory. This allows for a vehicle to
depart from its operating centre and collect a second driver along the way, providing that this is done
within one hour of the first driver starting work.
Vehicles manned by two or more drivers are governed by the same rules that apply to single-manned
vehicles, apart from the daily rest requirements.
Where a vehicle is manned by two or more drivers, each driver must have a daily rest period of at least 9
consecutive hours within the 30-hour period that starts at the end of the last daily or weekly rest period.
Organising drivers’ duties in such a fashion enables their duties to be spread over 21 hours.

The maximum driving for a two-man crew taking advantage of this concession is 20 hours before a
daily rest is required (although only if both drivers are entitled to drive 10 hours).
Under multi-manning, the ‘second’ driver in a crew may not necessarily be the same driver for
the duration of the first driver’s shift but could in principle be any number of drivers as long as the
conditions are met. Whether these second drivers could claim the multi-manning concession in these
circumstances would depend on their other duties.
On a multi-manning operation the first 45 minutes of a period of availability will be considered to be a
break, so long as the co-driver does no work

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Ah ok, so if ive got this right… driver one does 4.5 hours driving,then driver two takes over to do their 4.5 hours driving… whilst driver one sits in the passenger seat on break whilst driver two is driving and then swap over to finish their last 4.5 hours of driving each? (or 10 hours total if doing the longer day)…

Thanks for the help though :smiley:

Stu

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Yes, although you can swap before reaching 4.5 hours driving. You could for example swap every couple of hours. When I used to double man we tended to swap every 3 hours as it gave a nice 3 stints each behind the wheel.

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You’ve got it :smiley: :smiley:

del has posted the rest of it (above) :smiley: :smiley:

I’m glad you said BREAK and not REST as rest cannot be taken in a moving vehicle.

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ROG:
You’ve got it :smiley: :smiley:

del has posted the rest of it (above) :smiley: :smiley:

I’m glad you said BREAK and not REST as rest cannot be taken in a moving vehicle.

Ah cool, so not as confusing as i thought then, brill :smiley:

As i understand break is still on duty but not driving etc… so have a brew read the paper etc… but rest is not on duty booked off from work, able to go on the town and stuff? - Although im sure many will pop on the bunk the “rest” their eyes? :wink: :laughing:

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Stu190:
As i understand break is still on duty but not driving etc… so have a brew read the paper etc… but rest is not on duty booked off from work, able to go on the town and stuff? - Although im sure many will pop on the bunk the “rest” their eyes? :wink: :laughing:

That about sums it up, break is time you can spend for recuperation whilst rest is time that you can freely dispose of, or in other words you’re not at the disposal of the employer whilst on a rest period.