Hiya
How are we doing? the question ive got is this. what does p.o.a do to your breaks and all that. does it reset your 6h rule or does it extend it. if you know what i mean. last week i left my depot at 8:10am (put my card in at 8am) so in theory i should stop at 1400 for my 6h rule. i got to the drop at 0930 and put it on p.o.a for some reason, and went to the cafe to have a meal because the place i was delivering to dont open till 1100am so i was on p.o.a for 1h30min so when do i stop for my 45? at 1400 or 1530 or 1700 (of course if i still have driving time left)
i hope it makes sence thank you and be safe out there
Its quite simple, dont use it. If its good enough for POA its good enough for break, If you dont want to put it on break say because you need to get more driving in before resetting, leave it on other work and before someone says it no one sticks to the “average 48hr week” ■■■■■■■■.
Trucker8oy:
Hiya
How are we doing? the question ive got is this. what does p.o.a do to your breaks and all that. does it reset your 6h rule or does it extend it. if you know what i mean. last week i left my depot at 8:10am (put my card in at 8am) so in theory i should stop at 1400 for my 6h rule. i got to the drop at 0930 and put it on p.o.a for some reason, and went to the cafe to have a meal because the place i was delivering to dont open till 1100am so i was on p.o.a for 1h30min so when do i stop for my 45? at 1400 or 1530 or 1700 (of course if i still have driving time left)
i hope it makes sence thank you and be safe out there
As other have said it’s best not to use POA if you can avoid it, use break instead if it won’t cost you anything.
Neither POA nor breaks count towards working time, so if you start at 08:00 and have 1½ hours on POA you would need to start a 15 minute break for the 6 hour rule no later than 15:30.
Be aware that POA will wrongly reset the driving time on a digital tachograph but has no legal bearing on how much driving time you’ve actually done since your last break, so if you’d done 2 hours driving then had 45 minutes on POA a digital tachograph would show that you have 4½ hours driving time before needing a break, but of course you would really only have 2½ hours driving time left before needing a break.
Likewise if you had 15 minutes on POA then had a 30 minute break the driving time on a digital tachograph would be reset even though you had not had the required 45 minutes of a split break.
Isn’t the problem with all this the way that the digisystem resets the 4:30 to zero when on 45+ mins POA as if it were break?
Eg. Drive 4 hours in the first 5 hours of duty, then go on POA for an hour, then with your reset digi, drive another 4 hours still not having had a proper break.
Digi says you’re OK, but we all know differently - right?
Trucker8oy:
Hiya
How are we doing? the question ive got is this. what does p.o.a do to your breaks and all that. does it reset your 6h rule or does it extend it. if you know what i mean. last week i left my depot at 8:10am (put my card in at 8am) so in theory i should stop at 1400 for my 6h rule. i got to the drop at 0930 and put it on p.o.a for some reason, and went to the cafe to have a meal because the place i was delivering to dont open till 1100am so i was on p.o.a for 1h30min so when do i stop for my 45? at 1400 or 1530 or 1700 (of course if i still have driving time left)
i hope it makes sence thank you and be safe out there
Don’t forget POA has to be pre planned but theother giys are right - the digi tachos can’t cope with it! unless you are maxd out every week for the sake of 1 1/2 hours you may as well stick it on break
