Wheel Nut:
I can see Denis will be doing an ADR course soon for Straw
I only do a little bit of straw 
but the guys who haul fertiliser outwards and Straw home all fold their orange squares up for the straw 
I suppose I should carry orange boards on my car,when transporting my youngest daughter aroundā¦
The gas she has is poisonous. 
Ken.
allikat:
Paper - unsaturated, oil treated (including carbon paper) UN 1379, group 4.2 - spontaneously flammable.
What about corrugated cardboard, and reels of paper for making the stuff, are they classed as ADR?
Why do not beer tankers need orange boards and ADR markings?
I reckon 12 pints of Tetleys is dangerous, thats a limited quantity 
What about timber, especially after it gets put on my lorry still dripping solvent from the treatment tank.
he said as he strapped it down with a ā ā ā in his mouth
I had a drop today where I backed up to a little workshop and as we were unloading they lit a bonfire 10 feet in front of my cab! 
Dratsabasti:
allikat:
Paper - unsaturated, oil treated (including carbon paper) UN 1379, group 4.2 - spontaneously flammable.What about corrugated cardboard, and reels of paper for making the stuff, are they classed as ADR?
I have never seen or heard of paper being subject to ADR regulations and I spent many years in that trade.
OK whereās me wooden spoon ? 
But seriously,
someone:
āspontaneously combustibleā
This term isnāt actually correct - is it ā ā
It doesnāt flare up all on its own, thereās got to be spark or flame, heat (lots of) or whatever. 
I used to collect 2 types of solvents that couldnāt be carried together as they were highly explosive (but harmless by themselves).
There was nothing to say that they wouldnāt end up next to each other once they had been dropped off at the depot and loaded on to a trailer, though
At the same firm a few of us used to occasionally deliver fireworks in small quantities (about 4 medium boxes). We were assured that the boss had looked into the rules and we DIDNāT need any form of ADR or signage on the vehicle
DAFMAD:
OK whereās me wooden spoon ?someone:
āspontaneously combustibleāThis term isnāt actually correct - is it ā ā
It doesnāt flare up all on its own, thereās got to be spark or flame, heat (lots of) or whatever.
err! actually no 
Hydrogen Peroxide for one will spontaneously combust, no heat, spark or flame
DAFMAD:
OK whereās me wooden spoon ?someone:
āspontaneously combustibleāThis term isnāt actually correct - is it ā ā
It doesnāt flare up all on its own, thereās got to be spark or flame, heat (lots of) or whatever.
No. In the case of the paper, I think itās the āoil treatedā bit that matters.
Itās well known that oily rags (particularly those with linseed oil (IIRC)) can spontaneously combust in a bin. I canāt remember the exact mechanism, but I think that the combination of vapour buildup and a reaction between the oil and the rag (and possibly oxygen in the air) creates enough heat to take it beyond the (rather low) ignition point of the vapour.
In the case of charcoal, for the scientifically adept:
madsci.org/posts/archives/ja ā¦ .Ch.r.html
As a basic explanation: Charcoal consists of carbon, plus other compounds left over from the original wood. Because charcoal is very porous (lots of holes, left over from when some of the original wood was burned out), air can get in to the middle of the blocks of charcoal.
Some of those compounds are able to react with oxygen in air, at room temperature, to produce heat. Itās actually āburningā, but very, very slowly. Since charcoal is a very good insulator of heat, that heat canāt escape very easily, and has a tendency to build up within the lumps - the air can get in to the middle of the lump to cause the burning, but the heat canāt get out.
Also, if the air is damp, the water can help to speed up the reaction with the air, producing more heat. If the heat builds up enough, the charcoal can spontaneously combust.
It seems that while small bags are relatively safe (since the heat will escape more easily), but if you have a large quantity, and especially if itās not kept completely dry, it has the potential for spontaneous combustion.
Thatās why it probably requires ADR (possibly dependent on quantity).
Wheel Nut:
DAFMAD:
OK whereās me wooden spoon ?someone:
āspontaneously combustibleāThis term isnāt actually correct - is it ā ā
It doesnāt flare up all on its own, thereās got to be spark or flame, heat (lots of) or whatever.
err! actually no
Hydrogen Peroxide for one will spontaneously combust, no heat, spark or flame
I was going with the flow on Charcoal and paper.
If I remember my ADR training correctlyā¦ and I think it was Lucy who made the comment. It isnāt the amount INSIDE the container that counts!! It is the size of the packaging!!!
As Lucy said, she can pull a container full of hairspray aerosols which can go bang big time. But because the packaging is below a certain weight or size (for each individual item), it is not classed as hazardous. Thus the comparison between 80 litres of fuel in your car and a tanker full of the stuff.
If I remember rightly, in liquid form, it has to be OVER 200 Litres to require Haz plates and weightwise over 25Kgs. Therefore, all those guys that kick up about 20 tins of paint in their groupage load and saying āTake it offā are in fact wrong
I wait to be shot down in flames and corrected
allikat:
Bull poop certainly is
So does that mean all Transport Offices should have haz Chem labels on the Door
Linseed Oil soaked rags are well known for being dangerous. People in the Furniture Restoration game are advised to discard them into a container of water.
Hay or Straw (Iāve never understood the difference) will certainly spontaneously combust.
One evening I was sitting at Barnsdale Bar S/B when suddenly a rigid pulls into the Northbound. Three blokes jumped out somewhat rapidly and the whole lot went up. They didnāt even get time to retrieve their shirts from the cab.
Even pulling out onto the the southbound, I could feel the heat.
At least it stopped them from getting cold.
Krankee:
Hay or Straw (Iāve never understood the difference) will certainly spontaneously combust.
Hay can heat up if itās been baled a bit green - and occasionally catch fire - a barn full did that near here a couple of weeks ago. Straw needs a spark or heat to catch fire, but burns faster than hay when its lit!!
ps Hay is dried grass ( no not that sort) used for animal feed, Straw is the stalks left after the combine has harvested the corn, used mainly for animal bedding although some is used for feeding
Denis F:
Krankee:
Hay or Straw (Iāve never understood the difference) will certainly spontaneously combust.Hay can heat up if itās been baled a bit green - and occasionally catch fire - a barn full did that near here a couple of weeks ago. Straw needs a spark or heat to catch fire, but burns faster than hay when its lit!!
ps Hay is dried grass ( no not that sort) used for animal feed, Straw is the stalks left after the combine has harvested the corn, used mainly for animal bedding although some is used for feeding
You have been watching too much Emmerdale
They do seem to be quite careless with fires in that part of Yorkshire 
just back from Nightshift and canāt see through my eyes,
but,
ADR-Law sayās that each Company wich loads Hazard Freight must employ an ADR-Adviser who gives the Driver the Documents and the Driver must check after viewing the Documents if all is OK.
No Docās,No ADR
No ADR Adviser,No ADR
you mustnāt find anything out,
exept,if there are Lavels on the Freight you have to check that the Company not loads illegal ADR on your Lorry
If not ADR but Labeled you still must have an Transportadvise on which is on:
1.) Name and adress of Sender
2.)Name and Adress of Receiver
3.)Date of Sending
4.) Chemical Name of Product
5.)UN-Number
6.)Classification
7.)Bruttoweight(liter),exept on Explosivestoff Nettoweight
8.)Quantity
9.)Name of ADR Adviser and 24Hour Landline Number
10.)On the Bottom:"That Good is no ā ā ā on the Road
if itās ADR there must be the ā ā ā changed against the Classification,but isnāt Drivers Job and by Law forbitten to do it,exept you are an ADR Advisor!
Check at Evening if i have all on and go to bed.
Have now a Scottish Forklift Driver who loaded the Lorry so nice that i just took 20 Pictures.
Will bring next Week some
Well, you live and learnā¦
an American site but it gives the UN code for charcoal.
hummelcroton.com/data/chrcl_d.html
And for a descriptive of each UN code (1361 is a long way down the document, not far from the end, in fact)
66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:6hvY ā¦ ist+&hl=en
bullitt:
Rob K:
WELL, according to VOSA it is a hazardous load and should display haz plates accordingly.Charcoal comes under the āspontaneously combustibleā category and stickers stating this fact must be applied to all 4 sides of the trailer/container
but that would be classed as limited quantiys.
i didn vote cos the question wasnt clearā¦ if i picked up a container on with stickers on i wouldn leave without a tremcard or some clarification as to whats in the box and and whats it classed at.
when i said question wasnt clear it didnt say it was in a container with stickers on.
Maybe someone should tell Tescos, they`ve got bags of the stuff stacked up in the forecorts of their petrol stations!!!
Bullitt.
Ive been involved in hauling hay & straw since 1985, and ive never had a fire or known a hay wagon in my life time to combust into flames by its self !! Only electrical lorry faults, hot brakes or arson cause hay lorry fires.(like most lorry fires) .