Just curious.
With the clamping ban that is now in force and the well known fact that the ‘fines’ are nigh on unenforceable, how many of us actually stump up the £20? I was in Oxford services on the M40 last week and didn’t get the impression many drivers were paying, particularly the foreign ones.
I pay for the odd night out that I do, that’s only coz I get it back on expenses and for the free food voucher
I think i’ve paid twice in the last 20 years.
last time i stopped on one was Keele about 3 years ago, and that was out of desperation. Oh, and the M6 was blocked sth bnd 
! But as a rule, i avoid 'em like the plague…
I think I’m right in saying most MSAs use number plate recognition now to monitor parking. All you do now is pay in the shop and they put your reg number into their computer system. Therefore the numpty in the hi-viz selling tickets is no longer required and they’ve also saved the costs of printing tickets.
It’s not fool proof however because it will only work on standard spec UK plates so johnny foreigner can pretty much park with impunity knowing he will never be chased up. As an aside all of this sudden fuss about number plate spacing is due to the fact that ANPR is used pretty much all over now but it is very fussy as to what it can read.
I haven’t seen a clamper on an MSA for quite a while now and I believe with ANPR systems all they do is apply to the DVLA for owner details and post the bill to them. What your legal obligations are having received the bill are I don’t know. Are these parking fines legally enforceable or can they be safely filed in the bin?.
As an example of where ANPR falls over a few years ago I had to move a 14’ wide dozen a matter of a few miles in south Wales. I arranged to meet my ■■■■■■ driver in chievely MSAS and we loaded the van on the back of the truck and headed out to do the job. Around 6 hours later we pulled back into chievely off loaded the van and went our separate ways. A week or so later the company got a bill for parking the van because the ANPR clocked the time difference between the van entering and leaving as over 6 hours. It was unaware of the fact that it had left on the back of my lorry for over 6 hours between these times. It’s was sorted in the end but it took some doing.
Cheers
Neilf
neilf:
I think I’m right in saying most MSAs use number plate recognition now to monitor parking. All you do now is pay in the shop and they put your reg number into their computer system. Therefore the numpty in the hi-viz selling tickets is no longer required and they’ve also saved the costs of printing tickets.It’s not fool proof however because it will only work on standard spec UK plates so johnny foreigner can pretty much park with impunity knowing he will never be chased up. As an aside all of this sudden fuss about number plate spacing is due to the fact that ANPR is used pretty much all over now but it is very fussy as to what it can read.
I haven’t seen a clamper on an MSA for quite a while now and I believe with ANPR systems all they do is apply to the DVLA for owner details and post the bill to them. What your legal obligations are having received the bill are I don’t know. Are these parking fines legally enforceable or can they be safely filed in the bin?.
As an example of where ANPR falls over a few years ago I had to move a 14’ wide dozen a matter of a few miles in south Wales. I arranged to meet my ■■■■■■ driver in chievely MSAS and we loaded the van on the back of the truck and headed out to do the job. Around 6 hours later we pulled back into chievely off loaded the van and went our separate ways. A week or so later the company got a bill for parking the van because the ANPR clocked the time difference between the van entering and leaving as over 6 hours. It was unaware of the fact that it had left on the back of my lorry for over 6 hours between these times. It’s was sorted in the end but it took some doing.
Cheers
Neilf
Yes.
There’s a thread on here, but basically, they don’t own the land, so can’t pursue losses, the owner of the land can only pursue losses and would have to pay to take you to court to do that, so nothing ever happens.
Do I pay to park in MSAs-[zb] no…!
I do, because my employer would most likely stop the “fine” from my wages but if I worked for myself or a smaller employer, then no, I wouldn’t pay.
Interesting watchdog clip with a solictor talking about this issue…
claretmatt:
I do, because my employer would most likely stop the “fine” from my wages but if I worked for myself or a smaller employer, then no, I wouldn’t pay.
It’s illegal for your employer to do that without your prior written permission, unless I am misinformed, sure some of the “lawyers” on here will clear it up.
Yes if needs must. I’d rather pay £25 than lose a tank of fuel plus damage and hassle. Having said that, I don’t remember the last time I did, probably earlier this year. Most wouldn’t understand an O/D paying out, but it suits me.
If you work for a decent company, just claim it back on expenses and get your teners worth of food plus your £25 night out. Ta.
biggerstuff:
If you work for a decent company, just claim it back on expenses and get your teners worth of food plus your £25 night out. Ta.
^^ This.
I will never do nights out for a firm that refuses to pay for parking. I prefer certain truck stops, but some truck stops are just ■■■■■ and then I stay in services.
Maritime used to like either your yard or services - wasn’t keen on truck stops.
Pimpdaddy:
Do I pay to park in MSAs-■■■■ no…!
I like the way you got that past the filters, you see technology isn’t infallible 
biggerstuff:
If you work for a decent company, just claim it back on expenses and get your teners worth of food plus your £25 night out. Ta.
+1