Do you like seeing them squirm?

[robroy]

Themoocher:

robroy:

Themoocher:
maybe the rebirth of the owner driver is about to kick off

Yep, I can see the big wise haulage sharks circling now looking for young naive blood.

The big wise haulage sharks are starting to eat there own mess just now thou.
They have ran everybody else into the ground and can’t afford there crazy low rates anymore.
Now there crying to the government for more immigrants to fix there mess that they have got away with for years.

So as I say look for young naive and gullible blood , paint a rosy picture of the ‘‘owner driver, status working for us’’ …take them on, hire them a trailer,.and bleed those already low rates at a percentage, and pay them their pittance what is left to finance their over blinged up Scania with their name on the door…business as usual as since time immemorial.
Lambs to the slaughter in the world if road haulage.

[blue_estate]

Punchy Dan:

Themoocher:
maybe the rebirth of the owner driver is about to kick off

Yep, I can see the big wise haulage sharks circling now looking for young naive blood.

The big wise haulage sharks are starting to eat there own mess just now thou.
They have ran everybody else into the ground and can’t afford there crazy low rates anymore.
Now there crying to the government for more immigrants to fix there mess that they have got away with for years.
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Whilst I don’t disagree with old Robroy Themoocher is right as small people like me are getting inquiries from large firms that are not hauliers or other but actually the horses mouth .
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My boss is having to turn work down as we’re to busy with what we’ve got , as we’re only 6 drivers 7 including boss(no EE) but only got 3 artics 3 rigids , got another unit coming at the end of the week , all are 5 years old up to 10 years old but are legal
We do a variety of curtain side and container work , also I’ve done 2 full loads of new empty pallets and some 4t loads for 2 printers
Non transport companies want service and goods getting there with out being cross loaded 3 times or driver swapped same amount of times . Not the cheapest quote (though that helps )

[winseer]

Ultimately, if more drivers get fussy, more oldsters hang up their keys for good, more full timers consider early retirement or leaving to GO on agency…

There are X jobs, and X-(anything drivers to cover.

If you don’t pay the going rate - you don’t cover that job.

After a few weeks and months of a transport yard refusing to pay their full timers more “just to keep them”, but end up paying through the nose for agency…

Firms will not only be losing money hand-over-fist, but the full timers are going to start thinking "Hey, I could get another job easily at now £5+ph more than I’m earning here - even if I came back here to do exactly the same job…

It is all about “Insecurity” or lack of it.

If you are confident you could get another job at the drop of a hat - then you can afford to play hard-to-get.

There are also some new start up agencies about, that seem to be rather more aggressive in their English-Staffed recruitment of English Staff, to put it mildly…

When was the last time anyone had a phone call from an agency - Sans-Foreign Accent?

If your thinking “Actually, the last few days/weeks” - then the real sea change is about to hit us:

Aggressive marketing of UK drivers working for UK agencies being put into UK yards - for Domestic work only.

No “Euro Runs”.
No “Trampers”.
No “Nights out”.
No 5 and 6 day weeks
No “Rolled Up Pay”
No “Communication Barriers”
No “Deliberate Misunderstandings”

In short,
No more Bulls hit!!

[sidevalve]

Themoocher:
maybe the rebirth of the owner driver is about to kick off

Who needs the hassle? Most TM’s these days end up doing so much BS “compliance” and other pointless paperwork that they need a string of gofers to do what they used to do, manage the drivers.

Imagine having to do all that AND drive the lorry as well.

[beetlejuice]

No i think that this situation was avoidable, but human greed has ruined everything lately, not just for drivers of lorries etc. I feel sorry for the good firms, thee multi national companies should learn to respect their workers/drivers after this tripe is over with.

Will they learn from it? NO, but we as drivers/grafters can and should find better.

Never settle for bs bonuses or the ■■■■ poor fiver day food vouchers, or twenty quid a night out security guard & the saver of diesel is pitiful.
If this does not learn these people to respect workers then i will join in on relishing their demise…

[gmccabe13]

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[lonewolf_yorks]

Yes

[claretmatt]

JeffA:
Anyone getting a warm ready brek glow watching agencies and hgv employers having to put up their urine poor wages? After 20 years of “No, we stopped paying time and a half…” , “No, the rate is 6.50 an hour now, not 7”, “No, we wont pay you for the time it took to change the tyre”, “No we dont pay 8 hours minimum anymore you get 5 hours pay”

You can almost hear the cry in boardrooms all across the land “You mean we have to PAY them?”

Personally I have to admit the pleasure is almost ■■■■■■. In fact, at my age, its better than ■■■.

The poor payers are suffering the most. Jack Richards posted ELEVEN job adverts on Indeed today for Fakenham. I hope they are sweating and it serves them right for years of undervaluing drivers and racing to the bottom.

Bad firms can choke on it as far as I’m concerned.

[tude]

claretmatt:

JeffA:
Anyone getting a warm ready brek glow watching agencies and hgv employers having to put up their urine poor wages? After 20 years of “No, we stopped paying time and a half…” , “No, the rate is 6.50 an hour now, not 7”, “No, we wont pay you for the time it took to change the tyre”, “No we dont pay 8 hours minimum anymore you get 5 hours pay”

You can almost hear the cry in boardrooms all across the land “You mean we have to PAY them?”

Personally I have to admit the pleasure is almost ■■■■■■. In fact, at my age, its better than ■■■.

The poor payers are suffering the most. Jack Richards posted ELEVEN job adverts on Indeed today for Fakenham. I hope they are sweating and it serves them right for years of undervaluing drivers and racing to the bottom.

Bad firms can choke on it as far as I’m concerned.

Indeed, I could do with the money right now, but I am not going to do it, they deserve to suffer and hopefully my little individual protest that no one knows about will go some way to increasing rates for those who need it…Plus I don`t care much for the British public, ungrateful that they are.

[wheel_nut]

claretmatt:

JeffA:
Anyone getting a warm ready brek glow watching agencies and hgv employers having to put up their urine poor wages? After 20 years of “No, we stopped paying time and a half…” , “No, the rate is 6.50 an hour now, not 7”, “No, we wont pay you for the time it took to change the tyre”, “No we dont pay 8 hours minimum anymore you get 5 hours pay”

You can almost hear the cry in boardrooms all across the land “You mean we have to PAY them?”

Personally I have to admit the pleasure is almost ■■■■■■. In fact, at my age, its better than ■■■.

The poor payers are suffering the most. Jack Richards posted ELEVEN job adverts on Indeed today for Fakenham. I hope they are sweating and it serves them right for years of undervaluing drivers and racing to the bottom.

Bad firms can choke on it as far as I’m concerned.

There is more money pulling carrots in Fakenham since the Poles went home!