I have in my possession a booklet titled “Quarry products industry drivers guidance notes” & in the frequently asked questions section is this Q… Can a legal break within EU drivers hours regulations be recorded as POA? A… Yes!!!
Davey Driver:
Remember the OFFICIAL use of POA’s is for unknown delays, thats where you turn up and are then informed about a delay, if you regularly visit a site and always have a 10 min wait, that cannot legally be classed as POA however, if you arrived and was told the delay was 20 mins for example, then you can class 10 mins as POA if the normal delay is only 10 mins.
Sorry Davey, but you’ve got this one wrong on several counts…
A POA is officially a known delay.
If you visit a site and always have a 10 minute wait then you know about it, therefore can count it as a POA.
If you arrived and were told the delay was 20 minutes then all 20 minutes can count as POA because you know about it.
As for the whole POA/break thing, it goes like this…If a POA fulfills all the criteria needed to be classed as a break (you can trot off and get a coffee/ read a book etc.), then you may count it as such so long as you put the tacho on rest
Since you theoretically have to know how long the time will be for it to be a POA, it’s up to you which mode you record it under. Neither counts towards Working Time, so it makes no difference in that respect.
Bear in mind also that if the POA/break ends up being shorter than you were told then, well, it is. Still doesn’t count as Working Time.
margatemafia:
i only found this rule out a couple of weeks ago, when my tm had gone thru my tacos and pointed it out to me
You should have read this thread, that Lucy spent ages typing then Margate. It’s been up for ages, since about the end of September I think, maybe even earlier.
That bits in chunk three by the way. Nobody who is a regular on TruckNet UK has got an excuse NOT to know about or understand the rules. (Not between ourselves anyway. What you tell the ministry man/TM/whoever is entirely up to you ).