It’s alright going for these assessments if your agency, you can argue for pay.
I’ve had to turn down a few interviews as when you actually explain you need to keep within hours for daily rest and they turn round me say assessment is 4hrs let alone 7 I think why■■? And say no chance - it’s annoying but seems to be the trend these days.
If it’s looking for work from a permanent job then no way would I take a day off to do 7hrs unpaid unless I was guaranteed the job at end of it!
In which case I wouldn’t need to do the 7hrs in first place [emoji6]
Surely any company can do a straight forward interview that shouldn’t take more then an hour THEN if that’s passed a simple 20-30 drive will assess whether or not your a plank behind the wheel.
The other H&S bits they tag on should be all done on your first day of actual working for them.
These full day assessments are a waste of time for all involved, who thinks up a full day ffs!
It’s not to save money- they’re not willing to pay you!!
Out of curiosity, if you didn’t have to use your card which way around would the double shifts have fallen?
Would you be taking a four hour nap on the night job? Or be nodding off during the safety videos?
Neither seems a good option to me.
Wheel Nut:
The seven hour assessment I presume is for a brain surgeons job?
^^↑^^^^^ this
Who does a 7hr assessment,
Mine was out the yard up the road 2 miles and back, right you start Monday, see you at 8.
This assestment what you said absolutely rubbish and in 2 miles can t check nothing correctly.After this some time company or privers wonderfull why so much drivers drive not correctly.If company want check properly driving level,real reversing that need drive some 2-3 hours,reversing 3-5 time in different situation.As well check how drivers can unload cages,how he can found road and much more.At Aldi i think they work 2 or 3 day with another assesor who check and teach driver.
nightline:
Its not just an assessment its a induction as well, i have done a 2 day induction before
So much for the experts
If its a big company there is loads to learn ie like DD, different cabs, different trailers, health & safety, procedures of the premises plus lots more
And you thought you knew everything
You’re a driver employed to drive lorries,
The other stuff is company specific and applies to new employees.
I would be interested to read the employers liability insurance policy.
You want me to learn Company ■■■■■■■■ pay me to learn it. One hour, one week, paid!
nightline:
Its not just an assessment its a induction as well, i have done a 2 day induction before
So much for the experts
If its a big company there is loads to learn ie like DD, different cabs, different trailers, health & safety, procedures of the premises plus lots more
And you thought you knew everything
Not a problem, bring it on, I don’t mind in the least sitting through 2 days of bullcrap…as long as it’s in firms time and I’m getting paid for it.
109LWB:
Surely passing a medical, theory test, hazard perception test, C test, C&E test and completing the cpc is a pretty good assessment of your skills…
Why do companies think they can get away with this crap.
Just a thought, but perhaps it’s because there are a lot of people out there who have the licences that you describe, but who would still struggle to drive a greasy stick up a dog’s arse without damaging something?
job-related training"
So an induction counts as work? So is subject to minimum wage rules??
Internships are not valid if you are a “worker”.
“Promise of future work
An intern is classed as a worker and is due the National Minimum Wage if they’re promised a contract of future work.” gov.uk/employment-rights-for-interns
I`m no expert, but putting the above together…
If you are being trained as an employee, or for a future job, you are entitled to the NMW.
I could be wrong on that, but it “looks right” doesnt it? Mind you, being "right" or "just", doesnt count for much in the real world, as we all know!
job-related training"
So an induction counts as work? So is subject to minimum wage rules??
Internships are not valid if you are a “worker”.
“Promise of future work
An intern is classed as a worker and is due the National Minimum Wage if they’re promised a contract of future work.” gov.uk/employment-rights-for-interns
I`m no expert, but putting the above together…
If you are being trained as an employee, or for a future job, you are entitled to the NMW.
I could be wrong on that, but it “looks right” doesnt it? Mind you, being "right" or "just", doesnt count for much in the real world, as we all know!
This is what I said earlier. Induction is NOT an assessment. An induction should be done during employment and as such you should be paid for.
For example…“Yes Joe Bloggs you have the job and you can start Monday. Come in at 8am and we can do the induction, give you PPE go through company policies yada yada yada”
Therefore from 8am Monday morning you should be paid. Certainly NOT for free before employment has started.
Just consider the scenario as offered by the o.p. He suggests that he intends to do a 7 hour shift during the day, and follow this with a full night shift, if he can get away with it by not using his Driver Card during his day shift. Just let that sink in for a moment.
Let’s for the sake of this argument, consider that the poster is a genuine new driver. He has consistently shown an attitude which can only be described as cavalier. His lack of experience can only excuse so much of his actions as described by him on this forum, and his continued insistence on attempting to study during the day, and drive at night, can only endanger the public.
Just consider the scenario as offered by the o.p. He suggests that he intends to do a 7 hour shift during the day, and follow this with a full night shift, if he can get away with it by not using his Driver Card during his day shift. Just let that sink in for a moment.
Let’s for the sake of this argument, consider that the poster is a genuine new driver. He has consistently shown an attitude which can only be described as cavalier. His lack of experience can only excuse so much of his actions as described by him on this forum, and his continued insistence on attempting to study during the day, and drive at night, can only endanger the public.
Where ya been ND…hate to admit it here, but I’ve actually missed you!
Btw I still aint convinced this o/p guy is the genuine entity, which is why I don’t take his posts too seriously.
vikingpete:
Tell them to [zb] off. There taking the ■■■■
Is the correct answer. About five years ago I went for a theory test/driving assessment with Primark, which they guaranteed would take place one after the other. Took a day off, travelled 16 miles there, took the theory, passed with 99% IIRC, then was told to come back three hours later for the driving assessment. Should have told them to do one there and then, but was unhappy with the company I worked for at the time so went back in the afternoon and the first thing they asked me was “Can you do a run for us tonight?” Answered in the negative and then did the assessment which involved a kid (who couldn’t have been born when I passed my Class 1) telling me my anticipation at traffic lights and roundabouts was suspect! But they were prepared to take me on…a week later I rang to ask what was happening and was told they would arrange for me to come in for an assessment. Swore there and then I’d never do agency work again. My advice to you is to get a proper job on the books, there are plenty out there.
An assessment shouldnt take anywhere near 7 hours…in my mind its a driving/attitude test…not a pick up and deliver there scenario…im afraid theres no way im gonna do 7 hours for anyone.unless paid…
In 40 years of driving, I only ever did two assessments. The first was my very first time at the wheel of anything bigger than a Transit. It was in Islington and I climbed into the driver’s seat with an old boy out of the warehouse beside me. I told him that I had never driven ‘one of these’ before, so he showed me where the gears were and we set off down a one-way street. A couple of hundred yars he said turn left and pull up when you can, then we sat in the cafe for twenty minutes before going back (two more left turns). “He’ll do,” the old boy said.
The second was at Halfords. I sat for ages in a room with four or five others while we were lectured about company procedures etc. One guy went out and came back after 45 minutes or so, then the second one went. After an hour-and-a-half, a guy came in and sent us all home. Apparently, No2 had been taken down a country lane with a DD and hit an overhanging tree. The following week I was delivering bikes for them.
Put it his way. If you worked during the day and again at night if you were involved in a serious crash you might at the least be charged with dangerous driving if you were found out. It would be obvious to a competent driver that driving 24 hrs was dangerous.
