biggriffin:
I agree with the employer, no work no money, it encourages you to not go sick, unless you really are sick, to many softies now days think a cold entitles them to a week off with full pay, If employers kept having days off sick, there would be no companies to work for, it’s called a strong work ethic, which people in this country seem to have forgotten.
I think you may have misread what the supervisor said, he says “staff ‘cannot ever call in sick’ and that he would dock wages from a previous shift if they did so without a doctor’s note”, that’s not only draconian it’s illegal.
Is there anyone on here who still gets full sick pay from day one - without being threatened with the sack?
Yup.
And no i’ve never taken advantage of it, and i never intend to, but be assured the usual suspects do, regularly.
I’m lucky enough that my employer will pay 100% sick pay from day one and the absence procedure is a complete joke as nobody is ever pulled up taking the ■■■■. So much so, the majority of people just see it as extra holiday time off. We got told that our casual absence rate was nearly double industry average so can understand the cafe owners view completely and I kind of agree.
My first job was at a shoe store. I walked out after 3 hours.
My job was to straighten the shoe boxes when customers took them off the shelf to look at them then put them back.
Could argue I have no work ethic but I’d probably do the some again.
My first job and by far the worst.
I have worked in places where half the workforce did whatever hours were needed to get the job done , the others just did the minimum hours they were contracted to do .
The minimum effort lot were always first in line for the plumb holiday dates and always wanted the new kit .
I have always done my best for whoever I worked for but if they messed me about I would soon move on .
I have never understood the us and them attitude that certain people have . Then again many in management are severely lacking in management skills especially man management and rely on victorian big stick principles.
I have noticed that many office workers have very poor work ethics and spend nearly as much time on social media , the web , organisation of their social life or just chatting to others .
I was reading about this exploit a while back if I remember correctly this is how it works. It’s trial day so she won’t get paid, a lot of retail shops do this trial as part of the interview stage. Most managers will put these trial shifts as regular shifts on half shift so they can save money on wages. So when she called in sick I bet nobody was there to cover her. Some shops don’t employ part time staff, they just use trial periods. I don’t agree with this practice btw.
Had my haircut yesterday at my local Kurdistan barber…even he was moaning about the quality of staff…
The Poles, Kurds and one or two other nations were getting it big style, seems these young immigrants prefer to go out drinking and are not be too bothered about work
Its a generational thing, and not so much a Brit thing, although there are some right idle buggers with UK passports
have noticed that many office workers have very poor work ethics and spend nearly as much time on social media , the web , organisation of their social life or just chatting to others .
Totally agree there. A lot of office goods in staff really need some customer service training. They sit at far end of office can see you yet choose to ignore you. Or are to busy making person all calls on eBay etc durig work time. Should be banned all non work stuff unroll break times
Winseer:
Is there anyone on here who still gets full sick pay from day one - without being threatened with the sack?
Yep! Full basic pay from day one up to six months and then a review with a different doctor. Not sure what happens after that as I’m not aware of anyone being off that long.
Stanley Mitchell:
Had my haircut yesterday at my local Kurdistan barber…even he was moaning about the quality of staff…
The Poles, Kurds and one or two other nations were getting it big style, seems these young immigrants prefer to go out drinking and are not be too bothered about work
Its a generational thing, and not so much a Brit thing, although there are some right idle buggers with UK passports
When you were a youth would you have gone for an unpaid days work to get a job in a Coffee Shop of all places?
This woman had tried to get there, she had to use public transport on a day were they weren’t running properly, but she persevered and ended up 2 hours late and soaking wet, all to do an unpaid days work in a coffee shop, she then explained her situation and was told not to bother.
From my experience every generation think the next generation is lazy and has no work ethic, I know my elders thought the same about me when I started work, I’m sure they thought the same about my fathers generation in the 1950’s when they turned up for work in full Teddy Boy outfit, no doubt the Daily Mail had plenty to say about them.
Each generation has plenty of good descent hard working people, but for companies who pay rock bottom and offer poor T&C’s or even expect work for free they then get what they deserve.
edd1974:
I agree with cafe owner if you can’t be bothered to turn up on time for a trial.
It wasn’t she couldn’t be bothered, it was because due to the weather and issues with public transport, she ended up 2 hours late and soaking wet, so went to dry off and asked to rebooked, for a free days work.
edd1974:
have noticed that many office workers have very poor work ethics and spend nearly as much time on social media , the web , organisation of their social life or just chatting to others .
Totally agree there. A lot of office goods in staff really need some customer service training. They sit at far end of office can see you yet choose to ignore you. Or are to busy making person all calls on eBay etc durig work time. Should be banned all non work stuff unroll break times
Why would a company pay for goods in staff to have customer service training?
edd1974:
i know its not a driving link girl gets offered a days work trial at local coffe shop . txts owner 2 hours after she was meant to start i cant come in its raining and im wet.
poor work ethic? or a snowflake generation thing. wanting everything for nothing?
m.a.n rules:
probably not customer service training but teach them to treat people as they like to be treated.
because we are human…
Well aside from the fact that I find it bizaare anyone would need training to treat someone else politely, it would then have to apply to truck drivers as well, as some of them don’t qualify as mature polite individuals.
m.a.n rules:
probably not customer service training but teach them to treat people as they like to be treated.
because we are human…
Well aside from the fact that I find it bizaare anyone would need training to treat someone else politely, it would then have to apply to truck drivers as well, as some of them don’t qualify as mature polite individuals.
^^^ + 1…its reciprocal, and unfortunately too many drivers are just ignorant slobs
