Discussion of Forum Sponsor- Peter Smythe Transport Training

Since before I started sponsoring the forum I’ve spent time helping folks with all sorts of problems before and during their training - regardless of whether or not they are my customer. Just thought I’d mention that this service still continues.

Contact either via the forum or pm if you prefer some privacy.

Good luck all, Pete :laughing: :laughing:

Peter Smythe:
Since before I started sponsoring the forum I’ve spent time helping folks with all sorts of problems before and during their training - regardless of whether or not they are my customer. Just thought I’d mention that this service still continues.

So have plenty of other people, but most people don’t do it for financial gain and don’t feel the need to bang on about it :unamused:

tachograph:

Peter Smythe:
Since before I started sponsoring the forum I’ve spent time helping folks with all sorts of problems before and during their training - regardless of whether or not they are my customer. Just thought I’d mention that this service still continues.

So have plenty of other people, but most people don’t do it for financial gain and don’t feel the need to bang on about it :unamused:


at every oppertunity…+1… :unamused:

Being a sponsor allows for this - why be a financial sponsor if not going to make the most of it …

Maybe someone can explain the “financial gain” when the majority of these folk never come anywhere near my training centre. They are, generally, folks who are stuck on a particular part of their training and their instructor is not getting the information through to them. I simply do my best to back up the instructor by giving the instruction using different wording or examples. No-one has ever sent me a cheque for this so I’m pleased I don’t rely on the “financial gain”!

I was simply making the point that, although the sponsorship is now shared, my interest in helping has not diminished. If that’s offensive, I apologise. But I didn’t think it was.

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

ROG:
Being a sponsor allows for this - why be a financial sponsor if not going to make the most of it …

There’s a difference between advertising and coming this holier than thou [zb], you don’t see anyone else shouting about how they’ve helped people, I can pretty much guarantee that there’s people in every single forum on this board who have helped other members but they don’t expect to be put on a bloody pedestal for it :unamused:

I’m sure I can’t be the only one who noticed how quickly the trainers stopped using this board when they wasn’t allowed to advertise and I’ve no doubt that the sponsor of this forum would have also stopped posting had his advertising privileges been stopped, all of that’s fine, it’s just business, but why pretend otherwise.

I simply wanted to point out that nothing had changed in the phone and pm’s help department. Beginning to wish I hadn’t bothered! I fully appreciate that many offer valuable help - tachograph is a classic - with no reward.

Cant really believe I’m getting battered for trying to help!

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

Pete has been more than helpful to me .ignore the haters pete .top class advice and top class training facilities .thanks soon as i pass class 1 the chocolates and cakes on me

Tachograph, Over the years you have helped many people with your specialist knowledge, including me on several occasions for which I am grateful. Diesel Dave has also been a massive source of info and a person I have got to know. Rog has helped countless people and to this day I often call him for advice. I mention you 3 because as far as I know you don’t run a business that might benefit from the valuable advice you give.

Peter has also given totally free advice and guidance mostly to people that ask for it. Other trainers have also given hundreds of posts worth of advice all for no gain. It’s like a hobby and it seems a waste to have the knowledge and not share it.

It’s time to stop this incessant criticism of someone who freely gives his time to help others. OK some people have bought training off Peter and the other trainers on here but how many bad reviews have there been?

Let’s move forward in a positive way. BTW it’s not cheap to be a sponsor and like all advertising it’s about ROI. Return on investment.

Great post John, I agree with almost every word, I also understand that the sponsorship package isn’t cheap- but like trainers we also have costs to pay and have to find a way to cover those costs. This forum is unique in that there are many companies who can provide valued input, but from our side we have to balance that valued input with managing providing a service to those that pay to advertise. It is a difficult balancing act that at times leaves no-one satisfied.

I have long said that there are many highly respected trainers on here, enough that have enough in common with each other, in good practice and good training that they could form a body that represents them all, to speak in one unified voice against some of the legislation that affects them all and be seen as the mark of a respected trainer, then together they could sponsor this forum mitigating the cost between them all- giving all the independent trainers a voice, some clout, some recognition and customers some degree of trust and faith in the company they approach.

But despite me suggesting this many times it seems that there isn’t the will amongst the trainers to go down this route, which is a shame because it could only do your industry good and we would be receptive to working closely with any such association.

@ LGVTrainer

I wondered how long it would take you to jump on this thread :smiley:

LGVTrainer:
It’s time to stop this incessant criticism

“incessant criticism” :confused:
I assume you do know what the word incessant means :unamused:

LGVTrainer:
OK some people have bought training off Peter and the other trainers on here but how many bad reviews have there been?

In what way is that even relevant :confused:

You mentioned 3 people who help other members on this board but actually there are dozens possibly hundreds, I’ve no idea what the numbers are nor do I care, the point is that you can go on any forum on this board and you will find people helping other members, regardless of the problem if it’s related to road transport there will be someone trying to help, in fact in some of the forums the problem doesn’t have to be related to road transport and there will be people trying to help.

Of all the people on this board who help others I never see anyone outside of the new drivers forum standing on a bloody pedestal shouting about how they’ve “spent time helping folks with all sorts of problems”, and outside of the new drivers forum I never see anyone practically begging for peoples gratitude for the help they’ve given :unamused:

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Should this discussion be in the feedback forum rather than being on a sponsors designated thread :question:

tachograph has clearly formed his own view of me and my motivations and no matter how I try to clarify these I don’t think I’ll convince him.

He has clearly totally misunderstood my post which is a shame. To date, I’ve had top respect for him and his assistance. Pity he feels unable to reciprocate.

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

Theres always one Pete :unamused: I cant thank you enough for the help you gave me, like some others I travelled hundreds of miles to do my course with you after being treated like dirt by a local firm.
Keep on doing what you do, it seems to be working after all :wink:

I’ve split this topic for discussion at the point that it went off the stated purpose of the three sponsors’ sticky topics.

Let’s be fair here… it did go off-topic!! :smiley:

LGVTrainer:
Tachograph, Over the years you have helped many people with your specialist knowledge, including me on several occasions for which I am grateful. Diesel Dave has also been a massive source of info and a person I have got to know. Rog has helped countless people and to this day I often call him for advice. I mention you 3 because as far as I know you don’t run a business that might benefit from the valuable advice you give.

Peter has also given totally free advice and guidance mostly to people that ask for it. Other trainers have also given hundreds of posts worth of advice all for no gain. It’s like a hobby and it seems a waste to have the knowledge and not share it.

It’s time to stop this incessant criticism of someone who freely gives his time to help others. OK some people have bought training off Peter and the other trainers on here but how many bad reviews have there been?

Let’s move forward in a positive way. BTW it’s not cheap to be a sponsor and like all advertising it’s about ROI. Return on investment.

+1…I’m here to help, I agree it’s like a hobby for me. I currently have time at a abundance as I’ve just come out of hospital after corrective surgery on my leg after my skiing injury last year, I’ve now got a nice frame round my leg that I adjust every day.

Garry my right hand man is looking after the trainees.

So fire away with the questions. Or pm me.

Paul

Keep banging the drum king peter

Like I said before, I think your ripping the arse out of it lol

Xmas is coming up, drumroll for your Xmas offer coming up soon lol

I’ll just point out that it’s not compulsory to accept a huge discount!

Pete :laughing: :laughing:

You got to love the British politeness. You guys are trying to be nice but the reality is Tacograph is been a

I don’t think I am the only one here who thinks Peter uses the sponsorship in a very wise way. I noticed very quick after joining the forum how he doesn’t spam the forum, his advices are sound and he always try to give we guys newbie all sides and no just the marketing “I am the best come to me”

I am very grateful for his points, I sent him a private message and he was very helpful and at any point tried to sell hard his services. That’s one of the reasons I ended up booking with him.

For me doesn’t matter if he still a business man as long as he puts himself forward and help the newbies out. People are very negative on line FFS.

It’s OK to attack what a person posts, but please do NOT attack the person. dd.

MSilvaBrazil:
I noticed very quick after joining the forum how he doesn’t spam the forum, his advices are sound and he always try to give we guys newbie all sides and no just the marketing “I am the best come to me”

No argument about the advice but the rest of that sentence is just utter nonsense and wrong.

MSilvaBrazil:
People are very negative on line FFS.

Or just realistic.