Digital back to analogue

well i,m trading down over for a change,this bloody digital tacho is costing me an hour a day on my work, so when i change back to analogue do i just have to carry my digi card for the next 28 days the way you would carry 28 days charts ?

No, if you have one then you have to carry it, period.

Indeed you will have to carry it for the next 28 days and for every day after that you drive until the card expires.

seems abit OTT , but if thats how it has to be

Think its a fine and possibly a nice 9/11hr park up for failure to show the card :wink:

i have a digi card, never used it, but i have to carry it whenever i am in a truck :unamused:

Its a £200 fine :frowning: (no points thou :laughing: ). AND they park you up PG9 until you can provide them with your card so they can download and check that you havent used it/or in breach of regs etc.
How do i know this, I know someone who has a digicard NEVER used it got stopped driving an analogue tacho motor and the above fine and was given 2 hours to get the digicard to them. IF card received and everything ok then PG9 would be lifted there and then. Luckily he managed to get card to them in time. DONT leave home without it!!!

When they brought these digi tachos and cards in they must of tested them so why wasnt this problem fixed before they were put into use. Its stupid that you can lose so much time just starting and stopping. It must be possible to rectify.

Hence why tomorrow when im heading down the M6 @ Birmingham tomorrow at peak rush hour I will more than likely go teh TOLL ROAD to save around an hour…

Big Brummie Macca:
When they brought these digi tachos and cards in they must of tested them so why wasnt this problem fixed before they were put into use. Its stupid that you can lose so much time just starting and stopping. It must be possible to rectify.

if i use the driving time counter built into the truck computer then my most regular job takes me 8hrs 15min yet the digitach reckons i,ve done 9hrs 5min, its never actualy caused me to lose a job yet {by running out of time} but i,m forever recording 9hr and 10 hr max,s when i know i,m nowhere near

But after 9 days of that happening you have lost near enough a days driving, its bloody stupid these things are supposed to be precise legal instrument. I bet they would of fixed the problem if it meant you gained time and not lost time.

chaversdad:

Big Brummie Macca:
When they brought these digi tachos and cards in they must of tested them so why wasnt this problem fixed before they were put into use. Its stupid that you can lose so much time just starting and stopping. It must be possible to rectify.

if i use the driving time counter built into the truck computer then my most regular job takes me 8hrs 15min yet the digitach reckons i,ve done 9hrs 5min, its never actualy caused me to lose a job yet {by running out of time} but i,m forever recording 9hr and 10 hr max,s when i know i,m nowhere near

I drive a Magnum with digi tacho regularly, and the dash display counter corrosponds with the tacho, I think display is linked direct to tacho head.
And i know what you mean about it gaining driving time, stop start on the M25 had my driving time longer than i had actualy been on the road, ie from start to stop 2 1/2 hours, but actualy showed i had done 2 3/4 hours driving!! work that one out?

they are a joke, put it on POA it records it as rest?, if you double man the second person can’t record rest whilst the vehicle is moving, you lose driving time? tells you off when you go overspeed which is set by the company and not the law I prefer to right my name and vehicle details on a chart anytime to avoid these this that some muppet programmed just to to me as to make something as hard as possible so that when you slip up they can slap a fine on your forehand and thats what this country seems to be all about these days

Did a shift for a mate a few weeks ago.
Offered a 58 plate Topliner, He was surprised when I said I would prefer the Y reg CF DAF. (It was a, fairly complicated, trailer change and I have far more experience with the CF)
The fact that it was 90k and analogue tacho never crossed my mind :smiley:

ajdavis64:
And i know what you mean about it gaining driving time, stop start on the M25 had my driving time longer than i had actualy been on the road, ie from start to stop 2 1/2 hours, but actualy showed i had done 2 3/4 hours driving!! work that one out?

Easily worked out, your tacho is broken and needs repairing. It can’t record more time than there are minutes in the period. If you start driving at say 50 seconds into a calendar minute and drive for 30 seconds then stop and don’t move for a while it will, at the end of the second minute count both of those minutes as driving. But, it does it at the end of the minute and while it has recorded 2 minutes driving for 30 seconds of driving those two minutes are actual calendar minutes and the tacho hasn’t managed increase the length of the day. If you start driving at 09:00 after a rest or break and encounter traffic delays on the M25 then stop driving at 11:30, the most driving it will show will be 2 hours and 30 minutes, and is likely to show less than that if any of the stops in the traffic lasted a minute or two. It cannot show 2 hours 45 minutes for that period of 2.5 hours and if it does the tacho requires repairing or replacing. It’s not in traffic jams where you lose time on the digi, you are more likely to nick some back in that situation, it is the short movements when shunting or queuing to enter or leave somewhere that can do it.

This is fast becoming the latest Driver’s Urban Myth and new favourite MMTM story with drivers claiming they drove for X amount of hours but the tacho said Y hours. If you know how the digi tacho records things you know this is either BS or a faulty tacho. :unamused: :unamused:

In the 3 or 4 years I have been using a digi I don’t think there has been a single day where the machine has cost me more than about 10 - 12 minutes in driving time, and most days less than that, but many many days where it has nicked me time back in traffic jams. I would do anything to avoid going back to an analouge tacho.

Westy:
Its a £200 fine :frowning: (no points thou :laughing: ). AND they park you up PG9 until you can provide them with your card so they can download and check that you havent used it/or in breach of regs etc.
How do i know this, I know someone who has a digicard NEVER used it got stopped driving an analogue tacho motor and the above fine and was given 2 hours to get the digicard to them. IF card received and everything ok then PG9 would be lifted there and then. Luckily he managed to get card to them in time. DONT leave home without it!!!

What a con !
£200 fine especially when a lot of people are struggling cash wise,it should be £50 fine tops ( even that is too much ) but £200 fine is really extracting the urine,racketeering is alive and well at VOSA. :imp:

well i,m just sat here on the A1 having 30 minutes to complete my 1st break of the day, looking at the dash displays which i reset this morning when i left at 5am it says i have driven 3hrs 50 mins , the digi tacho says i have driven 4hrs 17 mins, so far i,ve swapped trailers 3 times and sat in 4 ques on the dock, thats where i seem to be losing it

so the swings and rounabouts of attemting to save fuel are totally wiped out by paying a driver an extra 30 minutes in pay due to digi

ebabes:
they are a joke, put it on POA it records it as rest?, if you double man the second person can’t record rest whilst the vehicle is moving, you lose driving time? tells you off when you go overspeed which is set by the company and not the law I prefer to right my name and vehicle details on a chart anytime to avoid these this that some muppet programmed just to to me as to make something as hard as possible so that when you slip up they can slap a fine on your forehand and thats what this country seems to be all about these days

1 when double manning you can’t have rest whilst moving but you can have a break so when changing over drivers no need to stop for a break
2 overspeed is not set by the company its an EU rule about exceeding 90kph for more than 60 seconds
3 as for POA I have no idea WTF that is :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

to add to coffees comments
the trick with digi
is
wait for the minute to click over and then drive