tonight was showed and explained how to use one as weve got hire wagon in with one in it , now two questions came up
1 at the end of your 16/ 31/ 46 were being told it goes straight back on driving, you dont have to switch the mode from break to driving i.e bed to cross hamers, is that right
2 at the end of your shift he said you just take your card out and thats it, now at the moment on my anologue one at the end of the shift i always change it from driving to rest i.e cross hammers to bed, is that right
so really i just want to know at end of 46 do you change to driving[ cross hammers ] or just leave it, and at end of shift do you leave it or change to break
i know you think why ask when he just been shown but on the 2nd he admited in the end that hadnt been brought up on course so would check but just in case he forgets it would be nice to know , thanks
I’d only change the mode when you want to put it on break. I wouldn’t have thought you need to change to break before you eject, I’m not anyway. After break don’t change just move off and it will revert to other work when you stop driving.
paul@midway:
Christ almighty . I,ve not done my digi course yet but reading that i,m already confused …
The main point he’s getting at is that (as I understand it - not used one yet) these new tachos automatically revert from the bed to the crossed hammers whenever the vehicle is moved. In practice this means that drivers who “just leave it on break” are going to have to learn to remember to set it to break at the start of any period they want to count as a break, but it also means that those of us who would normally put it from break back to crossed hammers at the end of a break no longer need to do so if we don’t want to as (assuming the next task is driving and not other work) it’ll do it for us as soon as we set off.
From my understanding they work as Repton has said - although I don’t understand why you need (or would need) to set rest at the end of the day if you are taking the tacho out ■■
I know it is a doubtful law but at present in Europe the authorities like to see a complete record of rest periods. Most German drivers will go back to their truck on a weekend to change the card, defeating the object of having a weekly break
If I am on my yard in Germany I do not return at all to the lorry as my
disk comes out when i get on the yard and have finished work for the
weekend,and goes when I start work after my break then do I put a new disk in the tacho,
brit pete:
If I am on my yard in Germany I do not return at all to the lorry as my
disk comes out when i get on the yard and have finished work for the
weekend,and goes when I start work after my break then do I put a new disk in the tacho,
But in General that is what happens. When I use to park in BASF Tor 11 for a weekend almost all the drivers would return to the trucks to do this, even the british ex pats
A digital tacho will automatically switch into drive mode if you move the vehicle. It will then drop into crossed hammers when you stop for more than 2 minutes. And back to drive when you move again.
The issue at the end of your rest period is about setting the mode to record what are you actually doing… if it’s other work then switch to crossed hammers, if it’s PoA then set it to the packing case.
If you end your rest period and start driving then you just drive and the mode will be set for you.
it’s actually not that complicated, nor is it that much different from an analogue tacho… until you need to record activities that happened when your card wasn’t in the unit.
There seems to be a lot of daft rumours going around with these digi tachos . Drivers giving it " you wont be able to do that run like this anymore or you wont be able to blah blah blah ."
Why not ? Its only a different system not a new set of rules .
hal56:
How do you imput your start place & end place Say start at Skelmersdale & end in Wigan ?.
You don’t - start and end places are now just input as the country - UK, France etc (except Spain for some reason, where there is a sub-menu for the regions; Catalonia etc).
You are prompted for the place and use the scroll keys to select the appropriate answer then press enter. Easy eh?
garreth the reason i put it on rest[ bed] at the end of the shift was that was how the company said they wanted it doing,when i take my tacho out i always go on 9hrs/ 11hrs or 36hrs/ 45hrs so its showing im going on abreak whereas if i leave it on cross hammers it shows as going on other work. whether its right or not i dont no or whether you really need to i dont know but thats what they asked for so thats what ive done, and as i don get any tacho infringements ive just took the easy way. which is why we quered the info on the digis as there now saying the opposite to what they were saying i am
anyway thanks for everyones help
You should switch an analogue tacho to break when you take your disc out for any length of time.
In break mode, as you will know, the mode needle leaves a very thin line on your disc. In any other mode it leaves a much thicker line. It makes the thick line by moving up and down as the disc rotates. The up and down movement could possibly damage the needle or the mechanics (unlikely I would think), on the older types of tacho head. That is why you kept a disc in the second driver slot. With the newer CD drawer type of analogue tacho head, you don’t need to do it, as there is some sort of sensor which tells the head if there is a disc in there or not.
Your company was simply instilling a simple preventative measure, if they still require you to do it, its just a carry over from then ady.
Personally i would switch it over after taking the chart out. It’s very unlikely you are going straight onto break at that point anyway, you still have to complete the chart for example along with possibly having to report to the office to hand in papers, keys etc. It could be that you are doing another 10 or so minutes work at least before starting your rest.
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